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rollyourown
08-22-2006, 10:49 PM
good deal if your in the market for surplus SS-109 for cheap. 1992 headstamps on all the cases. cronos at 3000+ fps out of a 20" H-Bar barrel. cheaper if you buy 4 or more cases. I bought 2 cases. I'm ordering 4 more after shooting this stuff.

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6674&dir=18|190|191

bwiese
08-22-2006, 11:08 PM
at 3000+ fps out of a 20" H-Bar barrel.

M855 is 3100+. So that's a bit slow/anemic.

And don't expect accuracy from ammo spec'd at 4MOA. The steel core in SS109 bullets isn't placed exactly the same from bullet to bullet.

insin
08-23-2006, 12:08 AM
I had to fight not placing an order for more. 2 cases comming my way. 86 left.

-hanko
08-23-2006, 7:11 AM
It's a great price considering shipping is included...Radway is a little slower than the US equivalent, but it's good blasting ammo. IIRC, 4 moa is the US accuracy requirement anyway. Get some.

-hanko

rollyourown
08-23-2006, 7:43 AM
M855 is 3100+. So that's a bit slow/anemic.

And don't expect accuracy from ammo spec'd at 4MOA. The steel core in SS109 bullets isn't placed exactly the same from bullet to bullet.

Well, after shooting it yesterday, I think the accuracy is very acceptable. I see your point about the difference between 3100 fps and 3000fps. At 3100 fps, that 62gr round will slide right through a human, but at 3000 fps it will probably bounce off flesh like a spitwad.

"NATO specifications for SS109 (U.S. M855) Ball require a 61.7 grain
(q 1.5 grains) with a hardened steel penetrator at a velocity of 3,025 fps
(q 40 fps) from a 20 inch barrel 25 meters from the muzzle. Typical
velocity 15 feet from the M16A2's muzzle is around 3,100 fps. The accuracy
requirement from a test fixture equates to a maximum of approximately four
MOA over the 100 to 600 yard range. Typical accuracy of average lots in an
M16A2 is about 2+ MOA. This round must also penetrate a nominal 10 gauge
SAE 1010 or 1020 steel test plate at a range of at least 570 meters (623
yards). The M193 round will penetrate this same plate reliably at 400
yards, and about half the time at 500 yards. The 5.56mm and 7.62mm NATO
rounds will penetrate it reliably out to 700 yards or more. Nominal
ballistics for M193 and M855 Ball rounds are given in an accompanying
table. The tables were constructed from the latest data supplied by the
U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory at Aberdeen Proving Ground,
Maryland.

five.five-six
08-23-2006, 9:54 AM
Well, after shooting it yesterday, I think the accuracy is very acceptable. I see your point about the difference between 3100 fps and 3000fps. At 3100 fps, that 62gr round will slide right through a human, but at 3000 fps it will probably bounce off flesh like a spitwad.




wow! ! great! ! you mean that if I buy this stuff I can use my ar15 to play airsoft?? how cool!

rollyourown
08-23-2006, 10:02 AM
wow! ! great! ! you mean that if I buy this stuff I can use my ar15 to play airsoft?? how cool!

yep...though it is so underpowered you may have to cycle the action manually.

also keep in mind that only fairys and SWAT team members play with airsoft. No one else would ever admit to owning airsoft.

Joe
08-23-2006, 1:15 PM
^^ you guys are hilarious

rollyourown
08-23-2006, 1:24 PM
Hey, what is Calguns.net if not comic relief since the sales boards were removed?

kantstudien
08-23-2006, 2:05 PM
I see your point about the difference between 3100 fps and 3000fps. At 3100 fps, that 62gr round will slide right through a human, but at 3000 fps it will probably bounce off flesh like a spitwad.

What's the difference between "ooh" and "aah?"

100fps :D

chiefcrash
08-23-2006, 3:04 PM
I think the lower velocity point is derived from the theories/claims that Radway underloads its' rounds a bit to work better in the L-85 rifle.

that's the theory/claim anyway. i've put 600 rounds of Radway through my bushie without complaints

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 11:56 AM
down to 51 cans from 88....someone must like this stuff.

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 12:09 PM
Bill is a perfectionist when it comes to ARs. You guys could learn some things from him. So stop your jokes.

True there is no difference from a bullet traveling at 3,000 fps vs one traveling at 3,100 fps. But for a small bullet reliant on velocity for maximum terminal effect. I be getting the hottest ammo possible.

Also, Radway SS-109 is 4MOA versus M855 at 1.5MOA. Now that is a big difference. Especially when you go out to the longer ranges. At 300 yards you are talking 12MOA vs. 4.5MOA. You can easily miss your target by literally a foot.

But if you are just planning to go plinking...This may be okay for you. But personally I'd get wolf. 1000 rounds at half the price.

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 12:41 PM
Also, Radway SS-109 is 4MOA versus M855 at 1.5MOA. Now that is a big difference. Especially when you go out to the longer ranges. At 300 yards you are talking 12MOA vs. 4.5MOA. You can easily miss your target by literally a foot.

But if you are just planning to go plinking...This may be okay for you. But personally I'd get wolf. 1000 rounds at half the price.

I just find it hilarious that people believe what they read on the gunboards and never find out for themselves. With 20 years of AR experience behind my opinions, I doubt very much that there is anything this Bill can teach me. If Bill makes his uppers and lowers from blank 0% castings like I have or cuts his chambers himself for his target barrels we may have something in common.

The NATO max spred for SS-109 MOA is 4. Almost all SS-109 is 2 MOA or less out of a 20" test barrel, regardless of who made it. IMI, RG, LC, and Federal M855 will do under 2 MOA out of the test barrel. I like how you make it sound like RG shoots 4 MOA all the time and LC or Federal M855 is 1.5 MOA all the time. You must be a statistician, you like to fudge the numbers like one.

Also please enlighten us as to where board members can get 1000rds of WOLF .223 for $105? Those days are gone forever slappy. You cannot even reload 1000 rds of 55gr FMJ for $105 today.

1000 55gr fmj bullets $39
1000 small rifle primers $14
1000 processed casings $40 ( i priced these in because for this discussion you don't start off with 1000 empty casings )
3lbs powder, your choice $60
____________
total $153 American Dollars

Nice try :rolleyes:

scootergmc
08-24-2006, 1:00 PM
Also please enlighten us as to where board members can get 1000rds of WOLF .223 for $105? Those days are gone forever slappy. You cannot even reload 1000 rds of 55gr FMJ for $105 today.

1000 55gr fmj bullets $39
1000 small rifle primers $14
1000 processed casings $40 ( i priced these in because for this discussion you don't start off with 1000 empty casings )
3lbs powder, your choice $60
____________
total $153 American Dollars

Nice try :rolleyes:

I thought half of $300 is $150. And I've seen 1000 rnds of garbage Wolf .223 all over for $140-$170. Not that I'd use it.

and Wideners has Wolf .223 1000 rnds for $152... ok so it's not quite half the price http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|657|659
*edit: I have never casted any uppers or lowers or cut any chambers. But I have cut some good farts. Like I'm sure we all have. Can't we just get along?

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 1:25 PM
I thought half of $300 is $150. And I've seen 1000 rnds of garbage Wolf .223 all over for $140-$170. Not that I'd use it.

and Wideners has Wolf .223 1000 rnds for $152... ok so it's not quite half the price http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|657|659
*edit: I have never casted any uppers or lowers or cut any chambers. But I have cut some good farts. Like I'm sure we all have. Can't we just get along?

yes, but the deal is $300 for 1440 rounds, not 1000 rounds. ;)

scootergmc
08-24-2006, 1:28 PM
yes, but the deal is $300 for 1440 rounds, not 1000 rounds. ;)

yes, but his question was for 1000 rounds of WOLF. Not 1440. ;)

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 1:32 PM
But if you are just planning to go plinking...This may be okay for you. But personally I'd get wolf. 1000 rounds at half the price.

2Minutes of Searching.


Miwall Reload 223 Rem, 55gr FMJ, 500 rds $75.95 (1,000 rounds = 151.90)


Wolf Performance, Russia
55 grain copper FMJ
New polymer coated cases, non-corrosive

WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.

$159.95 - 1000 rounds


WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.
$154.97
$147.22

*edit: I have never casted any uppers or lowers or cut any chambers. But I have cut some good farts. Like I'm sure we all have. Can't we just get along?

I was not the one that was rude...I merely pointed out the another Senior member here has a lot of experience with ARs and his posting should not be made fun of.

And I may not cut my own farts or roll my own chambers...:D :p , but I have been shooting ARs for about 17 years.

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 1:34 PM
Bill is a perfectionist when it comes to ARs. You guys could learn some things from him. So stop your jokes.

True there is no difference from a bullet traveling at 3,000 fps vs one traveling at 3,100 fps. But for a small bullet reliant on velocity for maximum terminal effect. I be getting the hottest ammo possible.

Also, Radway SS-109 is 4MOA versus M855 at 1.5MOA. Now that is a big difference. Especially when you go out to the longer ranges. At 300 yards you are talking 12MOA vs. 4.5MOA. You can easily miss your target by literally a foot.

But if you are just planning to go plinking...This may be okay for you. But personally I'd get wolf. 1000 rounds at half the price.

4MOA versus 1.5MOA is going to be the same, whether it's at 100 yards or 300 yards. i think you're trying to say 12 inches versus 4.5 inches (@ 300 yards). actually, it's more 12.57 inches versus 4.71 inches, but who's counting.:p

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 1:36 PM
2Minutes of Searching.


Miwall Reload 223 Rem, 55gr FMJ, 500 rds $75.95 (1,000 rounds = 151.90)


Wolf Performance, Russia
55 grain copper FMJ
New polymer coated cases, non-corrosive

WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.

$159.95 - 1000 rounds


WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.
$154.97
$147.22



I was not the one that was rude...I merely pointed out the another Senior member here has a lot of experience with ARs and his posting should not be made fun of.

yes, but again...the $300 is for 1440 rounds NOT 1000 rounds. by your prices it would be close to $225 for Wolf (per 1440 rounds).

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 1:37 PM
I thought half of $300 is $150. And I've seen 1000 rnds of garbage Wolf .223 all over for $140-$170. Not that I'd use it.

and Wideners has Wolf .223 1000 rnds for $152... ok so it's not quite half the price http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|657|659
*edit: I have never casted any uppers or lowers or cut any chambers. But I have cut some good farts. Like I'm sure we all have. Can't we just get along?


You have to add the shipping to the price as well. That is running around $20 per 1000rds to SoCal.

Yea we can all get along. I just get tired of people telling me that My opinion is the bottom of the barrel because it doesn't go along with the majority way of seeing things. :D

Rollyourown...official member of the get-along gang since 08/24/2006

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 1:39 PM
yes, but the deal is $300 for 1440 rounds, not 1000 rounds. ;)

you realize your the only one here that caught that little detail? glad to know I am not the only bean counter around here.

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 1:41 PM
yes, but his question was for 1000 rounds of WOLF. Not 1440. ;)

1000rds of WOLF droppings 55gr .223 is going to run you somewhere between $165 to $180 shipped. Still no where near half of $210/1000rds

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 1:41 PM
But if you are just planning to go plinking...This may be okay for you. But personally I'd get wolf. 1000 rounds at half the price.


Read my post....:D

Funny, at the last cow palace show, I believe I saw a bunch of wolf that broke down to be around $150ish for a 1000. But I didn't buy any....Already have enough to last me for a while. Am looking for 308 now a days.

Yea we can all get along. I just get tired of people telling me that My opinion is the bottom of the barrel because it doesn't go along with the majorities way of seeing things.

I don't recall seeing or saying that. We tend to get along pretty well here.

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 1:49 PM
2Minutes of Searching.


Miwall Reload 223 Rem, 55gr FMJ, 500 rds $75.95 (1,000 rounds = 151.90)


Wolf Performance, Russia
55 grain copper FMJ
I readNew polymer coated cases, non-corrosive

WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.

$159.95 - 1000 rounds


WX2-51319 - Wolf® .223 62 Gr. FMJ 1,000 rds.
$154.97
$147.22



I was not the one that was rude...I merely pointed out the another Senior member here has a lot of experience with ARs and his posting should not be made fun of.

And I may not cut my own farts or roll my own chambers...:D :p , but I have been shooting ARs for about 17 years.

Good start on the prices, now start adding in that pesky UPS shipping and handling fee. Its about $20 a thousand. so now your in the $170 range. Not looking like half price any more is it??? Oh, and is this $152 WOLF ammo in stock? Some places it is, some it is not.

I read your post. You came into this thread and basically implied that this Bill character's word was gosple. Well, its not, its no better or worse than mine. Its great that you have been a AR shooter for 17 years. Its a great start, and if you think I'm someone who thinks that I'm the most knowledgable person about ARs let me tell you that I am not. A one time trip to Camp Perry in 1992 taught me that hard lesson. But I learned alot at that meet. Number one was to listen to everyone concerned and process the information I gathered, not just to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 1:51 PM
yes, but his question was for 1000 rounds of WOLF. Not 1440. ;)

then you need to compare apples to apples.:D

1000 rounds of the SS109 would be closer to $200 shipped, and it's already established that you can NOT obtain 1000 rounds of WOLF for $100 shipped.

scootergmc
08-24-2006, 1:52 PM
you realize your the only one here that caught that little detail? glad to know I am not the only bean counter around here.

No, he's the only one to write about it. I picked up on it. I'm still beancounting previous statments.

BTW- my ARs are better than yours. If any of you want to fight, I'll see you at the bike racks. :D

scootergmc
08-24-2006, 1:53 PM
then you need to compare apples to apples.:D

1000 rounds of the SS109 would be closer to $200 shipped, and it's already established that you can NOT obtain 1000 rounds of WOLF for $100 shipped.

:rolleyes: I give up. I'm just replying to his earlier statements....

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 1:55 PM
:rolleyes: I give up. I'm just replying to his earlier statements....

don't give up...re-read the entire thread, maybe it will make sense to you a little bit better the 2nd time around.

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 1:56 PM
No, he's the only one to write about it. I picked up on it. I'm still beancounting previous statments.

BTW- my ARs are better than yours. If any of you want to fight, I'll see you at the bike racks. :D

Just to let you know, I'll bring my SIG-550 ringer to fight your AR. :D

You know I am kidding, I would never shell out $3500 for a 550.

And thats the end of this thread. Time to get some real work done today. Night all.

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 1:59 PM
I said for Plinking I would rather buy 1,000 rounds of wolf for half the price (1,440 rounds at $300). Half of $300 is 150. No mention of shipping, taxes etc.

And I never said Bill's word was "gospel". In fact I often disagree with Bill many times. I said Bill is a pretty knowledgeable guy and not to dismiss his words too lightly.

Number one was to listen to everyone concerned and process the information I gathered, not just to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

Me thinks you forgot that lesson.....

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 2:05 PM
Me thinks you forgot that lesson.....

I didn't forget it at all. I read what you typed, processed it, and decided that it didn't pass the smell test at all. Thats why I'm not letting you slide on what you said. You said RG is 4 MOA ammo, and that M855 is 1.5 MOA. That is a full blown lie. They will both shoot 2 MOA out of a 20" test barrel. The question anyone who listens to what you have to say should ask themselves is did you know it when you typed it and just didn't think you would get caught or did you type away and not know anything about what you were typing?

Who cares anyway. It is apparent I cannot learn anything useful from you as you have demonstrated to everyone you fudge on facts when it suits you. You can have the last word if you want. I don't care anylonger.

night all.

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 2:08 PM
Who cares anyway. It is apparent I cannot learn anything useful from you as you have demonstrated to everyone you fudge on facts when it suits you. You can have the last word if you want. I don't care anylonger.

Well my penis is bigger than your penis.....:p :p

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 2:11 PM
Well my e-penis is bigger than your e-penis.....:p :p

fixed...now, let's group hug.

rollyourown
08-24-2006, 2:16 PM
fixed...now, let's group hug.

OK, as long as we don't have to stand around stroking airsoft ARs and dress in pink SWAT fatigues.

scootergmc
08-24-2006, 2:19 PM
don't give up...re-read the entire thread, maybe it will make sense to you a little bit better the 2nd time around.

It makes perfect sense. I can see the points you guys are making. 1440 rnds, ss109, etc. See if this makes sense:

1/2 of $300 is $150. WOLF can be had 1000 rnds for $150.

I'm not arguing the merits of SS109 at 1440 rnds for $300 compared to whatever ammo you can get for $150. I'm just being a turd and pointing out that 1/2 of 300 is 150. And 1000 rounds of WOLF can be had for $150. :D

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 2:22 PM
OK, as long as we don't have to stand around stroking airsoft ARs and dress in pink SWAT fatigues.

whoa...how did you know that was on my mind. uncanny!!!:eek:

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 2:23 PM
Bring your Sig 550 to the bike rack...

I'll be there.....prepare to meet your maker....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/internet9dl.jpg

GTKrockeTT
08-24-2006, 2:26 PM
It makes perfect sense. I can see the points you guys are making. 1440 rnds, ss109, etc. See if this makes sense:

1/2 of $300 is $150. WOLF can be had 1000 rnds for $150.

I'm not arguing the merits of SS109 at 1440 rnds for $300 compared to whatever ammo you can get for $150. I'm just being a turd and pointing out that 1/2 of 300 is 150. And 1000 rounds of WOLF can be had for $150. :D

http://www.bgassociates.com/images/GMDC%20TOUCHE.jpg

there's still room in the group hug...

xenophobe
08-24-2006, 2:44 PM
People who are saying M855 ammo is 4 MOA haven't shot much of the stuff. Out of my Colt 1/7 I used to get 1.5-2" groups consistently with Lake City M855.

I would far prefer RG SS109 to Wolf. Anyone who would choose otherwise is foolish, unless you're strictly choosing Wolf because of prices, IMO.

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 2:47 PM
People who are saying M855 ammo is 4 MOA haven't shot much of the stuff. Out of my Colt 1/7 I used to get 1.5-2" groups consistently with Lake City M855.

I would far prefer RG SS109 to Wolf. Anyone who would choose otherwise is foolish, IMO.

We were saying that the Radway Green SS109 is the 4MOA ammo and the M855 is 1.5MOA (which some of us are contesting).

And given the choice between RG SS109 or the Wolf for PLINKING...(for me at least) I'd take the wolf....it's cheaper.....and I like my ammo like I like my women....cheap and foreign:D

chiefcrash
08-24-2006, 3:10 PM
Also, Radway SS-109 is 4MOA versus M855 at 1.5MOA. Now that is a big difference. Especially when you go out to the longer ranges. At 300 yards you are talking 12MOA vs. 4.5MOA. You can easily miss your target by literally a foot.


how do you figure 4MOA @ 100yards equals 12MOA @ 300yards?

MOA = Minute of Angle. It's an angular measurment. it's 1/60th of a degree. if you draw two lines at at an angle, then measured the distance between those lines at different ranges, you get different answers. but the angle stays the same regardless of the range you take measurements.

in short: what you SHOULD have said is: "Radway is 4 MOA. At 100 yards, that's a 4 inch margin of error. At 300 yards, you're talking about a 12 inch margin of error. You can easily miss your target by literally a foot."

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 3:12 PM
Yeah Yeah...you guys know what I mean....4MOA is 12 inches at 300 yards.....1.5MOA means 4.5 inches at 300 yards.....

Jeez people, I'm trying to work and post at the same time....:D

chiefcrash
08-24-2006, 3:14 PM
yea, and i had a math teacher lovingly refered to as "The Math Nazi", hence my nitpicking

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 3:22 PM
We must of went to the same school.....I was the kid in the back sleeping.:D

xenophobe
08-24-2006, 4:02 PM
We were saying that the Radway Green SS109 is the 4MOA ammo and the M855 is 1.5MOA (which some of us are contesting).

And given the choice between RG SS109 or the Wolf for PLINKING...(for me at least) I'd take the wolf....it's cheaper.....and I like my ammo like I like my women....cheap and foreign:D

Ah, okay. I haven't had any time shooting the RG SS109 but figure it would be similar to US M855.

RG makes great ammo, and I would be surprised if their SS109 wouldn't do 1-2" consistently. I haven't shot any so, nevermind.... lol

50 Freak
08-24-2006, 4:11 PM
Some members were saying that due to the construction of the bullet, the RG SS-109 will do 4MOA. I don't know myself personally as I've never used the RG SS-109.

Only experience with RG I've used was their 308, and to tell you the truth, I wasn't too impressed. At the time Port was also very available and that is what I preferred.

I personally don't shoot very much 223/5.56 anymore. I'm a 308/50 bmg man. But due to the recent shortage of cheap 308, I'm going to go back to the 5.56.

Still have a few thousand rounds of Wolf I have to get through. Plus I'll be breaking out the Mak90 from the safe. Haven't really shot that for like years.

scootergmc
08-25-2006, 7:16 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on the group hug... I just had to go back to work... :D

xrMike
08-25-2006, 7:48 AM
Hmmm, "Number in stock" today = 560... Last night it was 34.

They must have got some more in or something.

chiefcrash
08-25-2006, 8:24 AM
We must of went to the same school.....I was the kid in the back sleeping.:D
unless you went to a military school in texas, i doubt it...

and if you did, i doubt you were sleeping in the back of the class...

rollyourown
08-25-2006, 9:29 AM
Hmmm, "Number in stock" today = 560... Last night it was 34.

They must have got some more in or something.

I ordered 4 more cases of it last night. stock at that time was 31. if they have more of it thats great. The more ammo in private hands the better come 2008.

These cans are supposed to come with 720rds of ammo, 5 bandos for ammo and 20 or 30 10rd stripper clips. Well I opened the other can that I bought and they were not in there. In their place was 200 more rounds of ammo. Im hoping that I get that same deal with the other 4 that I ordered!

grammaton76
08-25-2006, 12:02 PM
I ordered 4 more cases of it last night. stock at that time was 31. if they have more of it thats great. The more ammo in private hands the better come 2008.

What's happening in '08? Is the UN pulling some new crackdown on international surplus sales or something?

xrMike
08-25-2006, 1:15 PM
I ordered 4 more cases of it last night. stock at that time was 31. if they have more of it thats great.It's guys like you who are the reason they're always sold out of .223 at the local walmart! :p Must be nice to be able to afford that much at one time...Well I opened the other can that I bought and they were not in there. In their place was 200 more rounds of ammo.Sweet!

rollyourown
08-25-2006, 2:38 PM
What's happening in '08? Is the UN pulling some new crackdown on international surplus sales or something?

Just waiting for the regime change that will happen in 2008. Things will probably get ugly economically in the next 18 months, enough so that in Nov 2008 I would not be suprised if a Donkey was occupying the Oval Office because people voted angry. For us gun owners it will be 1994 all over again.

Also, if a Dem becomes governer in this state you can bet that mail order of anything gun related will be out the door. No more ammo, kits or off list lowers. its already that bad with some companies refusing to send parts or whole guns to California in fear they will be targeted by a lawsuit of some type.

grammaton76
08-25-2006, 2:40 PM
Also, if a Dem becomes governer in this state you can bet that mail order of anything gun related will be out the door. No more ammo, kits or off list lowers. its already that bad with some companies refusing to send parts or whole guns to California in fear they will be targeted by a lawsuit of some type.

Gaah... you mean to tell me I'll have to order 15 AK parts kits in one year? I'm not sure if that's torture or ... fun.

rollyourown
08-25-2006, 2:48 PM
Gaah... you mean to tell me I'll have to order 15 AK parts kits in one year? I'm not sure if that's torture or ... fun.

Like I always say, do it today, for tomorrow it may not be possible.

I think just this month alone I have spent over a grand on ammo. Cases of 5.56x45, 5.45x39, 762x39 and 9mm have set me back a little but now I am done and I will have it if I should ever need it. And I bought when it was on sale. 9mm at $5.80 a box instead of $7.99 like it is currently. rifle ammo at $110 a case when it is $170 a case now. Its worked out well.

chiefcrash
08-25-2006, 3:30 PM
And I bought when it was on sale. 9mm at $5.80 a box instead of $7.99 like it is currently.

Aim Surplus has Silver Bear 9mm for $5.50 a box + shipping. if you get 20 boxes, it's $5.25 a box + shipping

rollyourown
08-25-2006, 6:08 PM
Aim Surplus has Silver Bear 9mm for $5.50 a box + shipping. if you get 20 boxes, it's $5.25 a box + shipping

silver bear is pretty underpowered for 9mm. what I got for $5.80 a box was S&B 115gr FMJ. Its really hot.

rollyourown
03-18-2009, 4:42 PM
Just waiting for the regime change that will happen in 2008. Things will probably get ugly economically in the next 18 months, enough so that in Nov 2008 I would not be suprised if a Donkey was occupying the Oval Office because people voted angry. For us gun owners it will be 1994 all over again.

Also, if a Dem becomes governer in this state you can bet that mail order of anything gun related will be out the door. No more ammo, kits or off list lowers. its already that bad with some companies refusing to send parts or whole guns to California in fear they will be targeted by a lawsuit of some type.



My God, If I only knew how right I was going to be back in 2006, I would have bought more of everything.

bobfried
03-18-2009, 5:40 PM
My God, If I only knew how right I was going to be back in 2006, I would have bought more of everything.

Way to bring back a dead thread. Forget Radway Green, the deal of the century was the cheap South African .308 that was available by the case loads for almost nothing. Heck the RG was expensive compared to the SA .308. I have been telling the same story a few times, I put in an order for 20 cases of SA that came out to about $4,300 shipped, put in one digit of my CC number wrong but than changed my mind. 6 months later the same 20 cases would have fetched well over $10,000 and they would all be gone within hours.

Or hell, if we're going on a nostalgic trip why not talk about the $125,000 homes that could be snatched up left and right that went for $500,000 a few years later. Or how about land in Southeast Asia than went up 100x within a 3 year period. What's that phrase:

Hindsight's a *****!

saki302
03-19-2009, 1:50 AM
I almost SH@ myself when I thought it was a current deal :D

I remember the old Israeli .308 which shot good, and was something like $89/1000 in SGN.... I still have a few left :D

-Dave

PS- some $500K homes can be had for $125K now :D

trinydex
03-19-2009, 10:06 AM
omfg i almost popped a damn colon thinking this was current

tgriffin
03-19-2009, 10:59 AM
Same here.