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HangPilot
01-14-2011, 7:21 AM
An anti article with a poll that desperately needs our attention:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_obama_must_man_up_on_guns__take_the_political_h eat_and_get_tough_on_sane_limits_.html

rromeo
01-14-2011, 7:24 AM
Done and done.

BusBoy
01-14-2011, 7:30 AM
sheeesh come on CGN populace.. Get ur vote on! :D

%27 - too strict

%73 - more gun laws

Legasat
01-14-2011, 7:34 AM
We're losing...Cmon, go vote!!!

Jerry1949
01-14-2011, 7:41 AM
I voted accordingly but I have my doubts that we will win this one in New York. But I will pass this message on to all my students, relatives and friends with instructions to vote right or risk my wrath!! :laugh:

Hell, the paper is likely to slant the vote anyway.

1st5
01-14-2011, 7:44 AM
Got it. Check out the poll at the www.pressdemo.com website as well. You have to scroll down a bit and it is on the right hand side frame.

Jerry1949
01-14-2011, 7:50 AM
BOY! That one is split right down the middle!!



In wake of the Tucson killings, should gun laws be toughened?

Absolutelyhttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/g/b.gif27%Yes,
to some degreehttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/g/b.gif14%
Not reallyhttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/g/b.gif9%
Nohttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/g/b.gif23%
No, they're too restrictive nowhttp://www.pressdemocrat.com/g/b.gif27%
Number of votes cast: 283

Flopps1
01-14-2011, 8:00 AM
Done...

BluNorthern
01-14-2011, 8:03 AM
Done and done.

PatriotnMore
01-14-2011, 8:06 AM
Hit this poll, this is crap being spewed to gain control momentum, that is why we are seeing so many polls.

bjl333
01-14-2011, 8:10 AM
An anti article with a poll that desperately needs our attention:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_obama_must_man_up_on_guns__take_the_political_h eat_and_get_tough_on_sane_limits_.html

Welcome to Calguns HangPilot !!! Hella first post ...

wazdat
01-14-2011, 8:12 AM
Try browsing to the polls via http://anonymouse.org and see if you can get a few "extra" votes for our side... :D

PEBKAC
01-14-2011, 8:12 AM
Voted appropriately in both. NY one still not numbers I'd like to see, but hopefully this will change later in the day as big guns are brought to bear.

PhantomII
01-14-2011, 8:20 AM
It's interesting that on the NY Daily News poll, the results are 73% for more gun control but the comments are 100% against it.

Wildhawk66
01-14-2011, 8:20 AM
Voted. We're still getting killed on this one... 73% in favor of more gun control. :ack2:

Breadfan
01-14-2011, 8:23 AM
done

wazdat
01-14-2011, 8:30 AM
Voted. We're still getting killed on this one... 73% in favor of more gun control. :ack2:

I'd guess it's rigged and won't move away from the 73%.

maddoggie13
01-14-2011, 8:30 AM
done....

CalBear
01-14-2011, 8:40 AM
Voted & posted.
Sometimes, it's hard for people to grasp or emotionally handle the real reasons for a tragedy. In their furious search for a scapegoat, they frequently turn their focus to guns as the problem. Just like blaming the quarterback for an NFL team's loss is always easiest... blaming guns seems to be the default in these incidents.

The reality is, other than harboring strong emotional feelings because of personal tragedies or trauma (as in McCarthy's case), gun control advocates rarely, if ever, have substantial data, statistics or studies to prove their argument.

The reality is, laws already on the books may have prevented the tragedy, but the failure of the mental health aspect prevented it. Most gun control laws only affect lawful people. A criminal aiming to commit treason is unlikely to worry about some law saying you can't carry a gun within 1000 ft. of a congressman, or a law barring high capacity magazines. What restrictions do is make it harder for lawful people to exercise their 2nd amendment rights and to defend themselves and others against criminals.

infamous209
01-14-2011, 8:55 AM
Figured that was you CalBear lol, just did the poll still 73-27, its rigged

PEBKAC
01-14-2011, 9:16 AM
I wonder if they are disqualifying votes based on GeoIP data...

yellowfin
01-14-2011, 9:18 AM
You couldn't find a more biased wording of the question if you wanted to. And that picture of the current White House occupant is a pretty typical example of why I am feeling every single second that he is in office is one second too long. We had better have a good person run against him next time so we're not stuck with the choice between 100% evil and 99.999%. Meanwhile, it has been pointed out that the author of the article is a felon and thus ineligible to be a legal gun owner--sour grapes?

OleCuss
01-14-2011, 9:24 AM
By the way, if you want to play with the poll - you can vote more than once. . .

You simply delete the NYDaily news cookie and then refresh the page and vote again!

Mendo223
01-14-2011, 9:33 AM
K i just voted and its still 73% in favor of more gun control....this poll is obviously fixed.

all this gun control talk in the wake of the tuscon killings is really really getting on my nerve.

im gonna do my part...by BUYING A GUN THIS WEEK! when the libs and anti gunnnies get a little false courage to attack our constitutional rights...i will go out and buy guns/ammo.

SwissFluCase
01-14-2011, 10:08 AM
Still 73%. The fix is in...

Regards,


SwissFluCase

Rivers
01-14-2011, 10:23 AM
26% / 74% so we're way behind in the NY poll.

CalBear
01-14-2011, 11:04 AM
It's NY guys... There are fewer causes that are more lost than that city.

t45ACP
01-14-2011, 11:13 AM
I voted.

Wherryj
01-14-2011, 11:24 AM
It's interesting that on the NY Daily News poll, the results are 73% for more gun control but the comments are 100% against it.

Perhaps it is because most who are anti-2A have emotional reasons without any sort of discernable logic. No logic, no comment?

CaptMike
01-14-2011, 11:30 AM
voted

lballs
01-14-2011, 12:20 PM
I don't trust any poll that does not show the number of people responding. I have also seen many polls proven to be false because of rapid jumps in the votes. When this data is not provided there is no way to determine the depth of the poll or if there has been any messing with the numbers.

I grew up in NYC area and still travel there multiple times a year. For the most part the vast majority of people I meet lean to the left. This does not at all make them pro gun-control, this topic is no longer a partisan issue. There are many online communities emerging that clearly show this... for example spend some time at Reddit. Actually from my personal experience I find that every time this topic comes up people seem to be frustrated with the gun laws out there. There is a deep feeling that NYC residents have been completely stripped of their second amendment rights. When my friends come out to visit me in San Diego they envy our "wild west gun laws" which makes me laugh and sad at the same time.

In NYC you must wait months and spend a minimum of $240 ( non-refundable application fee ) just so you can have a long gun in your house for self protection ( http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/rifle_licensing_information.shtml ). The handgun process is even stricter and the fee is $440 for a target/home protection permit (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/handgun_licensing_information.shtml). This license is only valid for 3 years and then the fee's reoccur. Not sure how this craziness passed equal protection law suits.

My good friend who lives in Queens (NYC) had a handgun passed down to him after his grandfather died. He was denied a target/home permit because of 4 traffic tickets he received over 3 years earlier when he still had a car. Those tickets were also not delinquent, he settled them properly at the times of the offenses. $440 down the drain and had to have an out-of state family member store the gun.

killmime1234
01-14-2011, 2:32 PM
Just voted. Currently 74% to 26%. Anyone who hasn't voted yet, please do!

WatchMan
01-14-2011, 2:49 PM
I just voted and the result is still crap. But, as one poster put it, this is afterall NY we are talking about.

Texas Boy
01-14-2011, 5:20 PM
still getting clobbered. Go vote people.

craneman
01-14-2011, 5:47 PM
yep, still 74% anti.:(

2buckchuck
01-14-2011, 5:50 PM
Hit

railroader
01-14-2011, 5:56 PM
The way the poll is worded is a bunch of crap. You either have too strict or not strict enough. What happened to they are fine now? I'm not speaking for here but the rest of the country. Mark

Bob Ragen
01-14-2011, 5:56 PM
Done

jpigeon
01-14-2011, 7:26 PM
We need to ban 2A bans:)

Two Shots
01-14-2011, 7:33 PM
Voted and it's still 25 to 74 It's a rigged poll. :(

vintagearms
01-14-2011, 7:36 PM
Done.

Mimi_T
01-14-2011, 7:51 PM
The NY poll sure looks rigged, it's still stuck at 74%... but then again, it's NY. :(

The other poll is looking better now, at least. Twice more people on the 2A side.

dfletcher
01-14-2011, 7:52 PM
The phrasing of the questions clearly favors a "make them stricter" response. Most folks, after a shooting, are not going to say "loosen gun laws" even if they think what we have is now OK.