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Markus
01-13-2011, 3:51 PM
I've been looking to get into reloading 9mm Makarov and was wondering if anyone knew where to find a 4 die set for this round? I've seen it referenced from Makarov.com so they must exist just I don't know where to find them. I posted this up in the ammo and reloading section but have had no responses so far and was thinking c@r forum might now.

iareConfusE
01-13-2011, 3:57 PM
No 4 die set, but heres the 3: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=727371

Alex$
01-13-2011, 4:00 PM
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/7644

steve91104
01-13-2011, 9:14 PM
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Markus
01-14-2011, 9:56 AM
Thanks guys I have found a number of the three die sets I was just wondering if anyone could find the elusive 4-die set but Im wondering it they actually exist.

XDRoX
01-14-2011, 10:48 AM
Thanks guys I have found a number of the three die sets I was just wondering if anyone could find the elusive 4-die set but Im wondering it they actually exist.

The 4-die sets are just a marketing ploy by Lee. There is no reason anyone needs one to load reliable accurate ammo. Just get the 3 die set.

iareConfusE
01-14-2011, 12:47 PM
The 4-die sets are just a marketing ploy by Lee. There is no reason anyone needs one to load reliable accurate ammo. Just get the 3 die set.

lolwut... Are you serious? There is no reason anyone needs to load reliable and accurate ammo? WAT

morrcarr67
01-14-2011, 1:10 PM
lolwut... Are you serious? There is no reason anyone needs to load reliable and accurate ammo? WAT

I think you miss understood him. He's not saying that you don't need reliable ammo. He said that you don't need to use a 4 die set to load reliable ammo. A 3 die set will load all the reliable ammo you need. I've been reloading on a Lee Turret Press for over 20 years with 3 dies and no problems. :)

XDRoX
01-14-2011, 6:21 PM
Thanks morrcarr, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear. We all need accurate and reliable ammo. I just don't think ones needs a LFCD to load such ammo.

iareConfusE
01-14-2011, 6:40 PM
Oh good, because I was a little confused as to why someone would say that hahaha. Okay makes sense.

Shrubmaster
01-28-2011, 8:49 PM
An even better question, where can someone find a makarov?

iareConfusE
01-28-2011, 8:51 PM
An even better question, where can someone find a makarov?

They're pretty common.. I've seen plenty for sale here in the marketplace.

Shrubmaster
01-28-2011, 8:57 PM
They're pretty common.. I've seen plenty for sale here in the marketplace.

Dude, I want one bad. What's the average price for such a specimen?

Markus
01-28-2011, 9:05 PM
200 to 400 dollars depending. Now that there's the regular Makarov pistol chambered in 9mm Makarov. Then there's the cz82 the p-64 and a few others that escape me. The upper price range is for really nice Russian makarovs and the lower range is for bulgarian makarovs. I personally have a cz82 and wouldn't sell it for the world well maybe a mint colt python with original blued finish..... Maybe.....

wilit
01-28-2011, 9:39 PM
I don't see a kit from Redding, but you can buy all 4 dies individually.

Sizing die (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=349948)
Expander die (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=717156)
Seating die (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=627575)
Crimping die (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=119580)

Shrubmaster
01-28-2011, 11:03 PM
From what I've seen, they're no longer legal to bring into ca correct??

beemaze
01-28-2011, 11:27 PM
From what I've seen, they're no longer legal to bring into ca correct??

Incorrect.

E. German and original Russian Makarovs (not the IMEZ/Baikal commercial ones with adjustable rear sight) are classified as Curios & Relics and therefore importable into CA.

The Bulgarian Makarov is also on the roster (Century import marked).

morrcarr67
01-29-2011, 10:49 AM
The CZ82 & P64 are also C&R and roster exempt.

beemaze
01-29-2011, 11:18 AM
The CZ82 & P64 are also C&R and roster exempt.

yes, though they aren't considered Makarovs. Great guns though. Now if only the P83 could be classified as a C&R soon...

Sanjuro82
01-29-2011, 11:33 AM
Great thread! I'm hoping to get into reload soon, and love the idea of converting the plentiful 9mm brass to Mak. I didn't even know that was possible. Thumbs up!

cmth
01-29-2011, 7:58 PM
In defense of the Lee factory crimp die, high-power revolver shooters swear by them. Keeps the bullets from walking out and seizing up the cylinder. But that obviously does not apply to any 9x18 load. The 3-die set will do just fine.

steve91104
02-02-2011, 11:43 PM
Got my bullets from Grafs today. 500 pcs, 95gr 9x18 TMJ for $53 delivered. This is gonna be fun!

morrcarr67
02-03-2011, 6:47 AM
Got my bullets from Grafs today. 500 pcs, 95gr 9x18 TMJ for $53 delivered. This is gonna be fun!

Nice. .106 cents per bullet. What do you think your final cost per round will be?