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Edge
01-11-2011, 11:42 PM
I have an M1 Garand, an M1 Carbine, and a Moisin and was thinking about getting a K98 to have a battle rifle from the three major powers in WW2.

What do K98 owners think of them?

I figure they should be pretty accurate. I know they're heavy, but about the same as a garand. Why don't I hear more people talking about them?

Where would be the best place to buy one, and what is a reasonable price for a good to very good condition rifle? How hard is it to find ammo and what does it run?

Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 12:56 AM
I have an M1 Garand, an M1 Carbine, and a Moisin and was thinking about getting a K98 to have a battle rifle from the three major powers in WW2.


Um, the three major powers in World War II?? Aren't you forgetting a few countries. ;)

Ever heard of Pearl Harbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor)? The Rape of Nanking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_nanking)? The Battle of Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain)? Iwo Jima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima)? The Battle of El Alamein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein)? Gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_beach), Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_beach), and Juno Beaches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach) in Normandy? ;)

K98k's are wonderful.

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/Gewehr%2098/a6b3c71f.jpg

They are lighter than a Garand (8-9 lb. vs 10 lb.). They are more similar to the M1903 (Springfield) rifle, which was "inspired" by the Mauser design. Mauser sued the US Government for patent infringement and won. The US was forced to pay Mauser royalties.

There is a lot of talk about K98k rifles. See http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum

There is even a whole forum devoted to them http://www.k98kforum.com/forum.php

Most first-time buyers get the most affordable version, a Russian Capture (RC) K98k. Captured by the Soviets and then rebuilt from parts by them, they can be found for $300 and up http://harmonia.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aaresult.php?PageId=45

The next level is partially-matching (the parts were serial-numbered at the factory), usually matching except the bolt, or matching except the stock and bands. They are ~ $500-$900.

The most expensive are all-matching, $1000-$2000. Even more expensive are K98k sniper rifles, which can cost several thousand dollars. Because of their value, all-matching rifles and snipers are often fake/counterfeit and so should be avoided until you gain a lot of knowledge and experience.

Surplus ammo is readily available http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/8mm-mauser-military-surplus

By the way, do not buy the widely-advertised "Mitchell's Mausers". They are over-priced pimp-shined Russian Capture K98ks that have no collector value.

Anchors
01-12-2011, 1:17 AM
Um, the three major powers in World War II?? Aren't you forgetting a few countries. ;)

Ever heard of Pearl Harbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor)? The Rape of Nanking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_nanking)? The Battle of Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain)? Iwo Jima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima)? The Battle of El Alamein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein)? Gold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_beach), Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_beach), and Juno Beaches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach) in Normandy? ;)

K98k's are wonderful.

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/Gewehr%2098/a6b3c71f.jpg

They are lighter than a Garand (8-9 lb. vs 10 lb.). They are more similar to the M1903 (Springfield) rifle, which was "inspired" by the Mauser design. Mauser sued the US Government for patent infringement and won. The US was forced to pay Mauser royalties.

There is a lot of talk about K98k rifles. See http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum

There is even a whole forum devoted to them http://www.k98kforum.com/forum.php

Most first-time buyers get the most affordable version, a Russian Capture (RC) K98k. Captured by the Soviets and then rebuilt from parts by them, they can be found for $300 and up http://harmonia.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aaresult.php?PageId=45

The next level is partially-matching (the parts were serial-numbered at the factory), usually matching except the bolt, or matching except the stock and bands. They are ~ $500-$900.

The most expensive are all-matching, $1000-$2000. Even more expensive are K98k sniper rifles, which can cost several thousand dollars. Because of their value, all-matching rifles and snipers are often fake/counterfeit and so should be avoided until you gain a lot of knowledge and experience.

Surplus ammo is readily available http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/8mm-mauser-military-surplus

By the way, do not buy the widely-advertised "Mitchell's Mausers". They are over-priced pimp-shined Russian Capture K98ks that have no collector value.

I really want one. The ammo is cheaper than I thought it was.

Are any of those beauties all matching?
I saw about 8 at a shop in AZ last week with Nazi markings intact, but they were $300-$400 and were really rough.
Maybe I made a mistake passing one up?
None of them looked nearly as good as any of yours.

Dr.Mauser
01-12-2011, 2:49 AM
Mines bring back and its been an amazing rifle, ive had a few others and loved them all it really a good investment but again you have to buy depending on what you want it for...ie shooter, collector, wall gun etc.

B Strong
01-12-2011, 5:07 AM
I have an M1 Garand, an M1 Carbine, and a Moisin and was thinking about getting a K98 to have a battle rifle from the three major powers in WW2.

What do K98 owners think of them?

I figure they should be pretty accurate. I know they're heavy, but about the same as a garand. Why don't I hear more people talking about them?

Where would be the best place to buy one, and what is a reasonable price for a good to very good condition rifle? How hard is it to find ammo and what does it run?

I'm a K98k fan, if you go to my firearms for sale thread (linked) you can see some of the examples I've sold recently.

Accuracy-wise, they're on par with the competition, but there is no-such National Match equivalent to the Star-Gauged '03.

If you want a numbers matching, excellent condition rifle, be prepared to drop some coin - the days of inexpensive, excellent condition K98k's are long gone.

Avoid Mitchell's Mauser rebuilds, and start looking on Gunbroker or at gunshows, especially the SAR show in Az.

paul0660
01-12-2011, 6:11 AM
Anyone wanting to buy a 98 needs to do a lot of reading before dropping money on one. There is no more faked gun in the world. The forum at Gunboards already mentioned is a great place to get info.

If you just want to shoot 8mm out of a wartime gun, M48s and 24/47s are still available, and will be worth the $200 they cost you.

rojocorsa
01-12-2011, 6:24 AM
Why are these the most faked?





Also, it's fun to shoot them. I really enjoy it even though I'm not a fan of their little weird stock grip and their sights aren't necessarily the best. They work.

My friend has this nice Russian capture, and it's always fun. For whatever reason I enjoy cycling the action. You can't go wrong with a good Russian capture.

emcon5
01-12-2011, 6:46 AM
Why are these the most faked?

Because some people are willing to pay a premium for numbers matching Nazi K98s, particularly if they have rare codes or specific marks, SS runes for example.

And K98ks are not the most faked, K98K Sniper rifles are. Wit authentic rifles going for up to $10,000, there is a lot of motivation for the dishonest.

If you want a shooter, find a Russian Capture model. They can still be had for around $300.

They work just fine:
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Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 6:59 AM
Are any of those beauties all matching?


http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/Gewehr%2098/a6b3c71f.jpg

Left to right:

1935 ERMA, bought from a fellow Calgunner. Russian Capture, but I bought it because it is one of the rarest manufacturer/year codes (S/27.G). 1935 was the year the K98k was officially adopted as the standard Nazi battle rifle. It is in a correct ERMA walnut stock with matching bands (still have the RC stock of course).

1936 Mauser Oberndorf (S/42). Matching except for the magazine floorplate, triggerguard, follower, and self-matching bolt

1937 ERMA (S/27). Matching except for the magazine floorplate, follower, and self-matching bolt.

1939 Mauser Oberndorf (42). Russian Capture, my first K98k.

1943 Mauser Oberndorf (byf). All-matching. Got it 2 years ago for only $460 because it looked bad. A little cleaning and voila http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=70599

1944 Brunn (dot) A restored sporterized rifle, matching except for the stock and handguard. Stock and handguard are correct "dot" parts.

I prefer partially matching K98ks because all-matching are much more expensive and there are many faked/counterfeit ones out there. In my opinion partially matching rifles are the value sweet spot between RCs and expensive and often faked all-matching rifles.

Why are these the most faked?


$$$

There is a sticky thread at Gunboards with "turd alerts" - faked rifles spotted for sale - http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?42088-Turd-Alerts

Besides that thread, if you read through the threads in that forum you will find threads of people posting their latest find who are disappointed to be told that they bought a fake. A very good reference for people who want to learn how to spot a fake is the Bob in Ohio photo CD http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?13507-New-reference-CD-Volume-II It is full of close-up pictures of the genuine markings on matching K98ks.

Edge
01-12-2011, 8:01 AM
Um, the three major powers in World War II?? Aren't you forgetting a few countries. ;)

Yeah, I guess I should have said three of the major powers in WWII. But I'm not at all interested in the Japanese Arisaka, and I'm not enough of a collector to warrant investing in other European rifles.

Thanks a lot for the info. I'll be checking out those links. If you decide to sell another K98k, pm me.

Bhobbs
01-12-2011, 8:10 AM
I have a Kar98k that was my second rifle. I really enjoy shooting it. To me the recoil is very light and I have no issue shooting a few hundred rounds in a day. The only problem is most ammo is steel core and corrosive so finding a place that lets you shoot steel core is an issue but the corrosive ammo is not a major problem.

Noonanda
01-12-2011, 8:16 AM
Yeah, I guess I should have said three of the major powers in WWII. But I'm not at all interested in the Japanese Arisaka, and I'm not enough of a collector to warrant investing in other European rifles.

Thanks a lot for the info. I'll be checking out those links. If you decide to sell another K98k, pm me.

you would be missing out then. other than some of the last ditch and training rifles, the Japanese Arisaka (both type 38 and type 99)is an excellent design, and is stronger than any other design used during WW2 (see hatchers notbook)

I own a type 38 Carbine and a type 99, type 38 is a handy little rifle, while the type 99 is a solid rifle

Noonanda
01-12-2011, 8:19 AM
I I really enjoy shooting it. To me the recoil is very light and I have no issue shooting a few hundred rounds in a day.
Obviously you havent shot some of the Turk ammo out there, the 150gr Compressed powder hot loads. That stuff I think was designed to dislocate shoulders:D

Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 8:38 AM
Yeah, I guess I should have said three of the major powers in WWII. But I'm not at all interested in the Japanese Arisaka, and I'm not enough of a collector to warrant investing in other European rifles.



Lee-Enfields are affordable and fun to shoot.

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Arisakas are interesting, affordable (even all-matching rifles) and the 6.5 Japanese cartridge is very pleasant to shoot, even in a carbine.

http://i55.tinypic.com/fmthlf.jpg

cruddymutt
01-12-2011, 4:57 PM
K98 snipers are the most faked, as already mentioned. The rifle in my avatar is a k98 LSR sniper THAT I BUILT. It is a fake. It is period correct but that is all. I have a friend that still thinks its real even though I told him its fake.
The rifle cost a fraction of what an all original would cost. The dishonest seller/uninformed buyer makes the possible profit on these very high.
Snipers, SS runes, sszza4 codes, totenkopfs, (Im sure there is more) must be heavily researched.
Assume fake until proven otherwise is my motto.

laika
01-12-2011, 6:21 PM
I'm just throwing this out there because I would mortgage my favorite dog for one (joke).

If we're talking about M1garand here, why not the SVT-40 or the Gewehr 43? I know they were not the most successful semi autos out there but I would think they are really worth collecting.

I may really be off base here, I want to know what you folks think.

Bhobbs
01-12-2011, 6:28 PM
Obviously you havent shot some of the Turk ammo out there, the 150gr Compressed powder hot loads. That stuff I think was designed to dislocate shoulders:D

I'm not sure what ammo I have shot through it but all I know is the first time I shot my Mosin Nagant the next day I woke up with a purple and green shoulder.

I like recoil.

Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 6:28 PM
I'm just throwing this out there because I would mortgage my favorite dog for one (joke).

If we're talking about M1garand here, why not the SVT-40 or the Gewehr 43? I know they were not the most successful semi autos out there but I would think they are really worth collecting.

I may really be off base here, I want to know what you folks think.

Of course they are worth collecting, they just aren't as numerous in the USA as the M1. Neither is cheap, most SVTs I see are around $1000, and G/K43s are all over $2000. If they were a lot more numerous and a lot cheaper they would be more popular. The M1 just happens to have been more successful than either of them AND more numerous AND less expensive AND were made in this country. So naturally they are more popular.

Anchors
01-12-2011, 7:04 PM
K98 snipers are the most faked, as already mentioned. The rifle in my avatar is a k98 LSR sniper THAT I BUILT. It is a fake. It is period correct but that is all. I have a friend that still thinks its real even though I told him its fake.
The rifle cost a fraction of what an all original would cost. The dishonest seller/uninformed buyer makes the possible profit on these very high.
Snipers, SS runes, sszza4 codes, totenkopfs, (Im sure there is more) must be heavily researched.
Assume fake until proven otherwise is my motto.

Still a cool rifle man.

I'm just throwing this out there because I would mortgage my favorite dog for one (joke).

If we're talking about M1garand here, why not the SVT-40 or the Gewehr 43? I know they were not the most successful semi autos out there but I would think they are really worth collecting.

I may really be off base here, I want to know what you folks think.

I would love to have either of those firearms. I've never seen a Gewehr for sale. I've seen maybe a couple SVT-40, but very rarely.

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/milsurp_collector/Gewehr%2098/a6b3c71f.jpg

Left to right:

1935 ERMA, bought from a fellow Calgunner. Russian Capture, but I bought it because it is one of the rarest manufacturer/year codes (S/27.G). 1935 was the year the K98k was officially adopted as the standard Nazi battle rifle. It is in a correct ERMA walnut stock with matching bands (still have the RC stock of course).

1936 Mauser Oberndorf (S/42). Matching except for the magazine floorplate, triggerguard, follower, and self-matching bolt

1937 ERMA (S/27). Matching except for the magazine floorplate, follower, and self-matching bolt.

1939 Mauser Oberndorf (42). Russian Capture, my first K98k.

1943 Mauser Oberndorf (byf). All-matching. Got it 2 years ago for only $460 because it looked bad. A little cleaning and voila http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=70599

1944 Brunn (dot) A restored sporterized rifle, matching except for the stock and handguard. Stock and handguard are correct "dot" parts.

I prefer partially matching K98ks because all-matching are much more expensive and there are many faked/counterfeit ones out there. In my opinion partially matching rifles are the value sweet spot between RCs and expensive and often faked all-matching rifles.



$$$

There is a sticky thread at Gunboards with "turd alerts" - faked rifles spotted for sale - http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?42088-Turd-Alerts

Besides that thread, if you read through the threads in that forum you will find threads of people posting their latest find who are disappointed to be told that they bought a fake. A very good reference for people who want to learn how to spot a fake is the Bob in Ohio photo CD http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?13507-New-reference-CD-Volume-II It is full of close-up pictures of the genuine markings on matching K98ks.

Really nice stuff man and nice restoration.
I am also enjoying the link. I need to learn more about mausers before I get into that game.
Some people are real s**theads.

Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 7:59 PM
Really nice stuff man and nice restoration.
I am also enjoying the link. I need to learn more about mausers before I get into that game.
Some people are real s**theads.

Thanks. You are wise to educate yourself before you start spending your hard-earned money. Spend time at those two forums I mentioned
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum
http://www.k98kforum.com/forum.php
you can learn a lot there for free.

Two books I recommend are Backbone of the Wehrmacht (http://www.amazon.com/Backbone-Wehrmacht-German-Rifle-1934-1945/dp/B000KK29O0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294893743&sr=1-2) and Kriegsmodell (http://kriegsmodell.com/).

Kriegsmodell is the first of a trilogy of books that will cover the entire history of the K98k.

http://kriegsmodell.com/images/p1.jpg
http://kriegsmodell.com/images/p2.jpg

The Bob in Ohio photo CDROM is also very useful. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?13507-New-reference-CD-Volume-II

Samples from the Bob in Ohio CD

http://i53.tinypic.com/2lc1el3.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/33416o8.jpg

While some might think the book and CD prices are high, if they save you from making just one bad K98k purchase they will have paid for themselves many times over.

Anchors
01-12-2011, 8:37 PM
Thanks. You are wise to educate yourself before you start spending your hard-earned money. Spend time at those two forums I mentioned
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum
http://www.k98kforum.com/forum.php
you can learn a lot there for free.

Two books I recommend are Backbone of the Wehrmacht (http://www.amazon.com/Backbone-Wehrmacht-German-Rifle-1934-1945/dp/B000KK29O0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1294893743&sr=1-2) and Kriegsmodell (http://kriegsmodell.com/).

Kriegsmodell is the first of a trilogy of books that will cover the entire history of the K98k.

http://kriegsmodell.com/images/p1.jpg
http://kriegsmodell.com/images/p2.jpg

The Bob in Ohio photo CDROM is also very useful. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?13507-New-reference-CD-Volume-II

Samples from the Bob in Ohio CD

http://i53.tinypic.com/2lc1el3.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/33416o8.jpg

While some might think the book and CD prices are high, if they save you from making just one bad K98k purchase they will have paid for themselves many times over.

That stock and the bluing on that Mauser are amazing.

DWarner
01-12-2011, 8:42 PM
Its hard to buy just one Mauser.

mls343
01-12-2011, 8:53 PM
All I can say about the 98k is that it is a must have. Start with the RC and take it from there.

Have fun!

blackfalcon
01-12-2011, 9:32 PM
Great rifles, although they kick like a mule! It is a very easy rifle to field strip and clean. The bolt is very easy to take apart. A real sling will cost around $100.00 and a bayonet will be around $100+.

Milsurp Collector
01-12-2011, 9:42 PM
Its hard to buy just one Mauser.

Very nice! I see some uncommon and desirable rifles there (two Kar98b, three Banner/DRP, two G or K codes) when you get a chance post more pictures of them. :)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=81702&d=1294897256
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=81703&d=1294897286

Anchors
01-12-2011, 11:56 PM
Very nice! I see some uncommon and desirable rifles there (two Kar98b, three Banner/DRP, two G or K codes) when you get a chance post more pictures of them. :)


Jeez. That is awesome.
Too bad by the time I am old enough to have a real career/money all this stuff will be gone.

Volksgrenadier
01-13-2011, 8:10 AM
They are awesome rifles. Solid, well built, accurate and reliable. And the 7.92x57mm caliber is impressive to say the least.

I have at DOT 1944, Waffen Werke Brunn, and from the serial number on the receiver, likely manufactured in very late 1944.

Regardless of whether or not it is a Russian capture, some other manner of import, or even a GI bring back, they are superb rifles and you will very likely not be disappointed with one.

rojocorsa
01-13-2011, 11:18 AM
I keep telling myself that my 91/30 and Enfield are enough milsurps, and that I should save my money for modern guns that I want AR/AK/FAL, but then threads like these...dang.


I would be interested in a good Arisaka, but where do you get 6.5x50? Key word here is would, since I don't have any money. Of course I wouldn't mind a good RC 98k either. Dang it. I like guns too much.

DWarner
01-13-2011, 11:26 AM
Too bad most are Russian and Romanian captures.

Noonanda
01-13-2011, 11:26 AM
I keep telling myself that my 91/30 and Enfield are enough milsurps, and that I should save my money for modern guns that I want AR/AK/FAL, but then threads like these...dang.


I would be interested in a good Arisaka, but where do you get 6.5x50? Key word here is would, since I don't have any money. Of course I wouldn't mind a good RC 98k either. Dang it. I like guns too much.

Reloading is the cheapest and dang near only option. there are like 1 or two companies that make 6.5 Arisaka ammo, but it is pretty uncommon.

DWarner
01-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Couple more.

rojocorsa
01-13-2011, 11:51 AM
Reloading is the cheapest and dang near only option. there are like 1 or two companies that make 6.5 Arisaka ammo, but it is pretty uncommon.

I am already headed towards reloading at one point or another, for the sake of .303.

Man, the bottom line: So many guns, so little money. I can't decide what I want next. ****. Do I want an AK build by SJGunguy? Or do I want a real Mosin sniper? I mean, I've never had an SLR, but how ****.ing cool would a 91/30 sniper be? :eek:

Milsurp Collector
01-13-2011, 12:33 PM
I would be interested in a good Arisaka, but where do you get 6.5x50?

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164

But I handload my own. Once you have reloading equipment it just makes sense to handload all of your ammo (except .22LR of course). I don't intend to buy any more centerfire ammo, just components.

Milsurp Collector
01-13-2011, 12:40 PM
Too bad most are Russian and Romanian captures.

Still, a good Mausers of the World collection.

I see that you have one K98k from each year of Mauser Oberndorf production, 1934 to 1945, very nice.

InFamous20
01-13-2011, 12:53 PM
Can't go wrong with a k98.

mauser98k
01-13-2011, 3:55 PM
Or do I want a real Mosin sniper? I mean, I've never had an SLR, but how ****.ing cool would a 91/30 sniper be? :eek:

honestly, they're pretty f***ing cool

http://img212.imagevenue.com/loc920/th_66314_snayperskayavintovkaobrazets9130005_122_9 20lo.jpg (http://img212.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66314_snayperskayavintovkaobrazets91 30005_122_920lo.jpg)

:cool:

i love all my 98ks too. fun range toys sure to attract attention. i really lucked in to 2 of them. one of them is a single rune SS marked rifle and the other is a blank receiver Luftamt stamped rifle. that one's rather rare. both Russian captures but it doesn't take away from their history at all

cruddymutt
01-13-2011, 4:09 PM
I am already headed towards reloading at one point or another, for the sake of .303.

Man, the bottom line: So many guns, so little money. I can't decide what I want next. ****. Do I want an AK build by SJGunguy? Or do I want a real Mosin sniper? I mean, I've never had an SLR, but how ****.ing cool would a 91/30 sniper be? :eek:

It be pretty freakin sweet;)
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll18/cruddymutt/IMAG0096.jpg
But I like my K98's also:D
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll18/cruddymutt/IMAG0097.jpg
You cant go wrong with either really. Both fun and different and currently still affordable for the most part.

rojocorsa
01-13-2011, 8:49 PM
You guys aren't helping. :43:

I think I should start a thread about Mosin snipers....

smeg
01-13-2011, 9:49 PM
Here are a few. All are late in the war. All have rough stocks that will give you splinters. Bottom three no longer have bayonet lugs in attempt to simplify production.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/sevoflurane/DSC_0054.jpg

InFamous20
01-13-2011, 10:16 PM
Showing pics of our k98s eh?

You guys are going to make me whip out the camera and contribute to the porn!

Anchors
01-13-2011, 11:50 PM
Too bad most are Russian and Romanian captures.

I'll take it!

Oh wait, not that forum :o

Rem222
01-14-2011, 2:25 PM
I love my K98(RC). It's my favorite shooter..

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad266/radarman1968/RangeK98.jpg

mauser98k
01-14-2011, 2:55 PM
nothing wrong with Russian captures. they are often battle hardened veterans of ferocious fighting.

10 years from now when Russian captures are going for $500, $600, $700+, people who knocked them are going to be wishing they'd gotten them.

furyous68
01-14-2011, 3:20 PM
I just saw a K98 for sale here I'm thinking of picking up for $285.... and a friend of mine wants to sell me one of his Turkish Mausers for $85... This thread just convinced me to get them both! LOL