View Full Version : New guy with a 91 30

01-11-2011, 7:14 PM
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dobryj vyechyer!

I made a new member thread and was directed here by some of the members. I just recently got married and was allowed a new rifle by the new Mrs! Happily I scoured this forum due to the insane amount of CREDIBLE(yeah its true, there is some on the internet; amazed? me too) information. And being we're newlyweds I had very little funds and with a few clicks and searchs I found out what I wanted, a Russian brunette.

Now the wife wasn't too happy with this until I explained my wordage lol. I cruised over to Big 5 (No C&R or FFL..yet..) and found an amazing 1931 Tula Hex supposed Parade model. Had brass all over it and was in immaculate condition, unfortunately another lucky soul had already purchased it. So I asked what they did have, the unhappy salesmen gave me the third degree assuming I was a mere looky-lou. Finally convincing him to actually perform his sole function at his post he reluctantly brought me 3 Mosin Nagant 91 30 rifles and started to unbox them. As I peeked and caressed the aged wood(dirty, I thought so too) I came across Moses. A 1937 # matching beauty.

I filled out the forms and paid my dues and hurried home to search for more info. On the 9th I picked it up and took her home. After a few minutes of oogling and awe'ing I started to work on the extensive cosmoline removal. A few hours and a 6 pack of Top Shock later I had Moses looking as mighty as ever. Went to ammunitiontogo and purchased a 100rd milsurp can and created my account here.

Today a neighbor had heard via the better half that I had purchased a gun, so he came by to check it out. Turns out he had a few that had burned down in a housefire he managed to save one but had sold all the parts but the stock. Before I go any farther let me reiterate that this is definitely not a permanent modification and I hold this rifle knowing very well its documented history. I decided to make a sporterized stock for when I go to NM to hunt with my brother.

That being said, for a burned stock it came out quite well, and my stock is now safely secured in newspaper, in a box in the attic labeled "Wedding items" so as to keep it safe for years to come. I also purchased another buttstock to polish just to see if it looks good on Moses. Not sure quite yet how I like it. LMK What you think?

I'm new here
Bought my first rifle, 1937 Mosin Nagant
Neighbor gave me an old half burned stock
I murdered a piece of history for the sake of being an arse
I am still quite happy with all results
Other gun is a Stevens Model 94 20 gauge (Younger brothers)

Stained twice, poly coated 3 times with Zessner Satin finish and hit with 0000 Steel wool






(Link to new member post with photos of original stock and accessories)

01-11-2011, 7:21 PM
I like the original stock with all the markings.
But to each his own.

01-11-2011, 7:38 PM
I'm going to Bee Canyon saturday to shoot it and would perfer to not risk damaging the original furniture. The day I retire it I will promptly redress him in his Russian Red cosmoline tux. ;)

01-11-2011, 7:42 PM
Is there a reason for the shorter fore end on hunting rifles or is it just a style or weight thing?

I will say you did a great job on the wood finish!

01-11-2011, 7:52 PM
I simply stole the style from what I've seen from many Bubba'd-builds I've seen. I thought at first there would be a weight difference but its not noticeable at all. The stock on both sides near the butt plate is dark due to the fire and the handguards were trashed. Thanks, first time staining gun stock, not first time staining wood. And with the condition of the wood was pretty bad, the learning experience was worth it though IMO. I think I will likely start searching for a good blonde laminate or maybe source a Boyds stock.

01-11-2011, 9:59 PM
Personally the 91/30 is a little to big and heavy for me to hunt with comfortably.
The M44 is pretty much the same weight unless you take the bayo off, in which case you'll usually have to do some sight adjustment.

I prefer the carbines for hunting, esp the 91/59 (mostly because my 2 59's are a bit more accurate than my 39)

01-11-2011, 10:24 PM
I would have to agree but I was bound by financial constraints. I would of much rather picked up a modern purpose built rifle, but alas this is the life we live not the one we choose right? lol, just ordered a 2-7x32 scope, rings, some stripper clips, and an buttstock cartridge holder. Now I'm pretty certain I cannot shoot my milsurp pretty much anywhere, where can I find some ammo that is legal to shoot at So Cal ranges? I've been searching all over and I cannot seem to find a simple enough answer. Brown bear, gold bear, silver bear, soft point, match point, its so confusing to a newb like me. I just don't wanna pay $20-40 to get into a range only to be kicked out for having the incorrect/unsafe ammunition.

01-12-2011, 1:06 AM
I'm going to Bee Canyon saturday to shoot it and would perfer to not risk damaging the original furniture. The day I retire it I will promptly redress him in his Russian Red cosmoline tux. ;)

Haha Russian-Red Cosmoline tux. I love it.

I am totally not into hunting. I was actually a vegetarian for a year and a half (a year straight and then six months at a later point).

But if I was going to hunt I think I would grab my mosin. Seems more effective, fair, and fun than using an AK/AR to take out an animal.
I would be doing it strictly for the Enemy At The Gates opening scene factor and maybe some good jerky. haha.

01-12-2011, 1:06 AM
Also, what is a Parade rifle? Never heard of one of those in all my mosin snooping.

01-12-2011, 5:24 PM
I honestly have little to no info after searching about parade rifles either. Most info states they were like training or drill rifles, only in superb condition and slight variances in it such as nickel plated bayonets and brass handgaurd bands. This is what the Big 5 rifle had but aside from those two modifications it was no different than any other laminated stock 91 30 I've seen. Infact, alot of info points towards those rifles being faked often to fetch a higher price for cheap gun.