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SA227driver
01-11-2011, 3:15 PM
This writer for bloomberg.com is a real piece of work.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-11/glock-pistol-sales-surge-in-aftermath-of-shooting-of-arizona-s-giffords.html

N6ATF
01-11-2011, 3:23 PM
You are not allowed to write for filthy rich victim disarmer Bloomberg if you are not a victim disarmer.

mtakedown
01-11-2011, 5:41 PM
An interesting sentence in the article is "A negative for law enforcement is that the rifling of the barrel makes it almost impossible to match a bullet to an individual weapon with ballistic tests, Kobilinsky said." I had never heard of this before. I know that both Glocks and HK use polygonal rifling.

Where does his statement originate from?

Steve_338LM
01-11-2011, 6:00 PM
An interesting sentence in the article is "A negative for law enforcement is that the rifling of the barrel makes it almost impossible to match a bullet to an individual weapon with ballistic tests, Kobilinsky said." I had never heard of this before. I know that both Glocks and HK use polygonal rifling.

Where does his statement originate from?

National Institute of Justice (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/training/firearms-training/module10/fir_m10_t09_01.htm).

TempleKnight
01-11-2011, 6:01 PM
An interesting sentence in the article is "A negative for law enforcement is that the rifling of the barrel makes it almost impossible to match a bullet to an individual weapon with ballistic tests, Kobilinsky said." I had never heard of this before. I know that both Glocks and HK use polygonal rifling.

Where does his statement originate from?

My google-fu found several references to the difficulty matching bullets from poly barrels. My favorite is this one. It says basically that ballistic matches happen mostly on TV.

http://www.ctsportsmen.com/issues/ballistic_imaging.htm

Steve_338LM
01-11-2011, 6:03 PM
popular with police, sport shooters and gangsters

Since you wouldn't use one for hunting, don't these three categories pretty much cover everyone else?

yellowfin
01-11-2011, 6:59 PM
Actually a Glock 20 or 29 is quite good as a backup for hunting.

Be that as it may, do they honestly believe in that "ballistics matching" nonsense? Guns are made in factories by machines to precise, repeatable specifications, so the idea that someone can pick out something an individual from another is so absurd it's like cutting up a phone book, throwing the pages up in the air with a fan, and picking a name off a page.

IrishPirate
01-11-2011, 7:05 PM
Handgun sales rose 65 percent to 395 in Ohio; 16 percent to 672 in California; 38 percent to 348 in Illinois; and 33 percent to 206 in New York, the FBI data show. Sales increased nationally about 5 percent, to 7,906 guns.

good to see CA is up on top....hopefully some of those were new gun owners who will help resist gun control legislation.....

Chester
01-11-2011, 7:12 PM
Wow! So not only are Glocks invisible to xray machines and metal detectors, they can't even be traced with ballistic forensics... and they come with 7,000 round bullet clips, to boot!

Merc1138
01-11-2011, 7:13 PM
Wow! So not only are Glocks invisible to xray machines and metal detectors, they can't even be traced with ballistic forensics... and they come with 7,000 round bullet clips, to boot!

And they cost more than you make in a month!

zoglog
01-11-2011, 7:56 PM
Give it up, it's proven Glocks are for gangsters

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3825/homeboysiteslz8.jpg

Also remember it rhymes easily with "cock" for them thuggin songs ;)

Wherryj
01-12-2011, 11:38 AM
This writer for bloomberg.com is a real piece of work.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-11/glock-pistol-sales-surge-in-aftermath-of-shooting-of-arizona-s-giffords.html

I sent the reporter and his editor an email detailing an interesting little article on Comcast today.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20110112/US.Congresswoman.Shot/
"In the hours before the assassination attempt against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Jared Loughner went to Walmart, was pulled over for running a red light and ran from his father after an angry confrontation.


In his article, he reorted a statement from the Brady Campaign which went without rebuttal OR the mention of this FACT.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-11/glock-pistol-sales-surge-in-aftermath-of-shooting-of-arizona-s-giffords.html
"Brady Campaign spokeswoman Caroline Brewer said that some states require local law enforcement agencies to approve gun permits, a system that would have given authorities a chance to further assess Loughner, whose behavior acquaintances have described as erratic. Loughner tried to buy ammunition the morning of the shooting at a local Wal-Mart Stores Inc. outlet, then left during the sale process, according to a statement by the company.

“If a clerk at Wal-Mart picked something up and refused to sell this guy some ammunition, we can certainly imagine that law enforcement would have picked that up as well,” Brewer said.

This was reported as a forgone conclusion that law enforcement would have "certainly" determined that he was unstable, yet they had a traffic stop and failed to notice the "obvious" signs that were supposedly picked up by the Walmart clerk?

In any case, this seems to be intellectual dishonesty by the reporter. It is this dishonesty that is leading to the well-deserved death of the news media.

Wherryj
01-12-2011, 11:45 AM
Actually a Glock 20 or 29 is quite good as a backup for hunting.

Be that as it may, do they honestly believe in that "ballistics matching" nonsense? Guns are made in factories by machines to precise, repeatable specifications, so the idea that someone can pick out something an individual from another is so absurd it's like cutting up a phone book, throwing the pages up in the air with a fan, and picking a name off a page.

Well, now that you mention it...

I saw Penn and Teller in Vegas a few years back. They did a card trick where one audience member picked a card, then threw the card into a wood chipper along with the rest of the deck.

The largest card fragment that was seen flying out of the chipper was picked out of mid air. It was the mangled corner of the same card chosen by the audience member.

Absurd, but not for Penn Gillette...

Your point is, however, valid. All tricks and sleight of hand aside.

These tools are made on the same machinery and any individual minor defects that arise from their manufacture are also known to change with firing the weapon. Even if there is a specific flaw that allows the tracing of a certain barrel, that flaw will change with further use. It also isn't impossible for that same flaw to occur in another barrel.

CCWFacts
01-12-2011, 12:55 PM
"Toyota ... popular with moms, commuters, and drunk drivers."

CalBear
01-12-2011, 1:03 PM
I'm very straight up with people who ask why I own a handgun. I own it primarily for my self defense. Nuff said. I don't need to justify it by saying I enjoy target shooting or hunting or something.

$P-Ritch$
01-12-2011, 1:22 PM
And they cost more than you make in a month!

You'd be surprised what I make in a month. :cool2:

It is good to see that CA is apparently a big portion of the gun market despite all the restrictions.

J.D.Allen
01-12-2011, 1:56 PM
You'd be surprised what I make in a month. :cool2:


And so modest too! :D

Merc1138
01-12-2011, 2:14 PM
And so modest too! :D

Someone missed the jokes :p

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Mstrty
01-12-2011, 2:21 PM
Loughner's magazine was attached to a 9 mm Glock 19 semi-automatic handgun, which is the preferred weapon of deranged madmen. In 2007, Seung-Hui Cho used the same model in the Virginia Tech shooting spree, which claimed 32 lives.



So all you citizens and LEO's carrying Glocks you are now "deranged madmen" according to Democrat Frank R. Lautenberg

source (http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/12/lautenberg.high.capacity.clips/index.html?hpt=C1)

dantodd
01-12-2011, 2:25 PM
Glock...popular with police, sport shooters, and gangsters

And Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords....

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/arizona-capitol-times/mi_8079/is_20080321/arizona-democrats-split-dc-gun/ai_n51710249/