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spgripside
01-09-2011, 10:41 PM
Joyce Foundation Most Recent Grants for Gun Violence (http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/grant-list?rr=1)
Granted on 12/09/10

Ceasefire Pennsylvania Education Fund (http://www.ceasefirepa.org/)
Philadelphia, PA
Amount: $250,000.00
Length: 12
To build statewide support for gun violence prevention policies in Pennsylvania

Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence (http://www.ichv.org/)
Chicago, IL
Amount: $175,000.00
Length: 6
For general operations.

Legal Community Against Violence (http://www.lcav.org/)
San Francisco, CA
Amount: $300,000.00
Length: 12
To provide legal and technical assistance in support of state and local gun violence prevention policy reform efforts.

Violence Policy Center (http://www.vpc.org/)
Washington, DC
Amount: $500,000.00
Length: 12
For research, public education, communication, advocacy, and coalition efforts in support of effective gun violence prevention policies.

wildhawker
01-09-2011, 10:45 PM
Legal Community Against Violence (http://www.lcav.org/)
San Francisco, CA
Amount: $300,000.00
Length: 12
To provide legal and technical assistance in support of state and local gun violence prevention policy reform efforts.

This is only some of what we're up against, and why we need everyone to take the phrase "freedom isn't free" as seriously as it is.

Where are the pro-RKBA grant-writers?

Swiss
01-09-2011, 11:01 PM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".

gunsandrockets
01-09-2011, 11:03 PM
spgripside

Thanx for the tip. Isn't it interesting that the amount the Joyce Foundation donated is greater to the more extreme anti-gun orgs such as LCAV and the VPC.

dantodd
01-10-2011, 12:03 AM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".

I will not permit the actions of a single nut job who has nothing to do with me, doesn't speak for me nor share my beliefs alter my language. Labeling someone an enemy when their goal is to strip my civil rights is wholly appropriate. They are my enemy and an enemy of the constitution and of civil rights.

jdberger
01-10-2011, 1:25 AM
I will not permit the actions of a single nut job who has nothing to do with me, doesn't speak for me nor share my beliefs alter my language. Labeling someone an enemy when their goal is to strip my civil rights is wholly appropriate. They are my enemy and an enemy of the constitution and of civil rights.

Bingo.

I refer to the Klan and neo-Nazis as "enemies", too.

I conduct "campaigns" against them.

Politically, I use The California Target book to identify weak legislators who oppose us. I "aim" to defeat them.

I particpate in CGF "Fire Missions". I do what I can to "rally the troops".

Military terminology is part of our lexicon (http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/our-spirited-political-discourse.html). We've endorsed it "lock, stock and barrel". So has the other side.

Bobula
01-10-2011, 1:26 AM
Cgf needs to start applying for those monies.

TNP'R
01-10-2011, 2:39 AM
I will not permit the actions of a single nut job who has nothing to do with me, doesn't speak for me nor share my beliefs alter my language. Labeling someone an enemy when their goal is to strip my civil rights is wholly appropriate. They are my enemy and an enemy of the constitution and of civil rights.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

BobB35
01-10-2011, 6:57 AM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".



I guess if we all try really hard we can come up with a politically correct term to replace the one that you find so offensive - even though it is correct in usage and context. This country is DONE....people are unable to disassociate the deranged actions of one lunatic with political discourse. Goodbye sweet America we hardly knew you...

socal2310
01-10-2011, 7:50 AM
It's also helpful to remember that contrary to media expectations, the image emerging of Jared Loughner is of a left-wing anarchist, not a right wing activist.

More Ted Kaczynski than Timothy McVeigh, although given the association between Kaczynski and McVeigh, he probably would have got along with both quite well (until they actually had to cooperate anyway - "naught but thee and me and I'm not certain about thee" and all that).

Ryan

Cali-Shooter
01-10-2011, 7:54 AM
At least I don't see Brady up there. Although it would be nice to see the funds for these other fascist "noble" organizations to "disappear."

spgripside
01-10-2011, 9:51 AM
This is only some of what we're up against, and why we need everyone to take the phrase "freedom isn't free" as seriously as it is.

Where are the pro-RKBA grant-writers?

Friends of the NRA grants (http://friendsofnra.org/National.aspx?cid=9) might be worth CGF (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/) applying for. Application deadline is November 1, 2011. Applications for the 2011-2012 grant cycle will be accepted starting on July 1, 2011. Any grant writers here?

These Grants are awarded to qualifying projects or activities that promote
firearms and hunting safety; enhance the marksmanship skills of those
participating in the shooting sports, educate the general public about
firearms in their historic, technological and artistic context, or contribute
to the general well being of the public at large. NRA Foundation State
Fund Committee grants benefit a variety of constituencies including
children, youth, women, individuals with physical disabilities, gun
collectors, law enforcement officers, hunters and competitive teams.

As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".
Dantodd's response sums up my feelings on that perfectly. Thank you.
I will not permit the actions of a single nut job who has nothing to do with me, doesn't speak for me nor share my beliefs alter my language. Labeling someone an enemy when their goal is to strip my civil rights is wholly appropriate. They are my enemy and an enemy of the constitution and of civil rights.
As does this one from jdberger. Very interesting article.
Military terminology is part of our lexicon (http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/our-spirited-political-discourse.html). We've endorsed it "lock, stock and barrel". So has the other side.

At least I don't see Brady up there.Even Joyce is smart enough to stay away from those fools.

M. D. Van Norman
01-10-2011, 9:56 AM
Daunting.

Our respected opponents have very wealthy benefactors. :o

Flopper
01-10-2011, 9:59 AM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".

Oh goodie yes, let's start calling them "diametrcially opposed partners" instead of that awful icky word "enemies." :rolleyes:

Get your head straight.

Supposed "hateful national discourse" had nothing to do with this.

Stop buying into the propaganda.

Arondos
01-10-2011, 10:13 AM
One nut case with heavy emphasis on the word NUT. Be they left, right, or center it doesn't matter. He was still crazy.

The reason I want a weapon is because crazy people and criminals don't care about the laws.

Protection from crazy people is good. BUT I am not giving up my rights to be protected. I have more faith in my ability to protect my self and my family than I do in the police departments ability to write a report after the fact.

SwissFluCase
01-10-2011, 10:15 AM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".

Perhaps Swiss is right. Maybe we should start using porn industry terms instead of military ones. :p

Seriously, I have no problem using offensive language in this fight, whether military or not. It *IS* a fight.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

Swiss
01-10-2011, 10:21 AM
Suit yourself. The American people that work at these organizations also have families and want the best for our country, just like you and I do. We can disagree and even be consumed with anger at their efforts to strike at our gun rights but I'd save the word "enemy", and other BS rhetoric like it, for those who truly mean our nation harm.

In other words, take the long view:

The moment was marked at the U.S. Capitol and elsewhere around a nation still coming to grips with the tragedy.

Giffords' brother-in-law, Scott Kelly, space station commander, led NASA in a moment of silence — and struggled with the senselessness of the shooting.

Flight controllers in Houston fell silent as Scott Kelly spoke via radio from space.

"We have a unique vantage point here aboard the International Space Station," he said. "As I look out the window, I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not."

"These days, we are constantly reminded of the unspeakable acts of violence and damage we can inflict upon one another, not just with our actions, but also with our irresponsible words," he said.

"We're better than this. We must do better."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/08/national/w111222S57.DTL#ixzz1Af4PkmhE


Oh goodie yes, let's start calling them "diametrcially opposed partners" instead of that awful icky word "enemies." :rolleyes:

Get your head straight.

Supposed "hateful national discourse" had nothing to do with this.

Stop buying into the propaganda.

N6ATF
01-10-2011, 10:23 AM
Victim disarmers are fighting we the law-abiding in a cold civil war by proxy. They are protecting criminals by disarming us and infringing the human right of self-defense into oblivion. They constantly dance in the spilled blood of innocents. They are enemies of humanity.

lgm118icbm
01-10-2011, 10:28 AM
This might sound silly but can we apply for some of these grants?

We could do anti "gun violence" education. It is the same fight we have always been fighting, but we would fight it from the other direction. We could use the funds to conduct safety studies,educate the community and foster legislation that is actually effective at keeping firearms out of the hands of the criminals. That would loosen up the laws for the law abiding while punishing the criminals.

Think of it as the Brady Bunch but with a logical twist.


"Californians Against Violence" a CalGuns subsidiary?

spgripside
01-10-2011, 11:03 AM
This might sound silly but can we apply for some of these grants?

We could do anti "gun violence" education. It is the same fight we have always been fighting, but we would fight it from the other direction. We could use the funds to conduct safety studies,educate the community and foster legislation that is actually effective at keeping firearms out of the hands of the criminals. That would loosen up the laws for the law abiding while punishing the criminals.

Think of it as the Brady Bunch but with a logical twist.


"Californians Against Violence" a CalGuns subsidiary?



It sure seems like Calguns Foundation (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/) would not only qualify as an eligible group, but would be an ideal recipient of a Friends of NRA grant (http://friendsofnra.org/National.aspx?cid=9). The following is info from the Friends of NRA (http://friendsofnra.org/) website.

“Eligible group” is any organization, association or other entity, whether formally incorporated or not, that has, as a minimum, a unique federal employer identification number (EIN) issued by the Internal Revenue Service. Eligible organizations may apply for an NRA Foundation grant for a qualifying project. Applicants seeking to qualify for support shall not discriminate against any member, person or other user of its facilities or equipment on the basis of age, race, color, sex or national origin. Applicants are not required to be members of or have association with the NRA to receive funds under this grant program.

The following organizations are not eligible for grants:

* Political candidates or organizations
* Labor organizations
* State Fund Committees
* Friends of NRA committees
* Private business/private enterprise
* Other organizations or groups that have not been assigned a federal employer identification number by the Internal Revenue Service. (A signed copy of an IRS W-9 form disclosing this number must be included in with all applications).

Projects/ Activities Eligible For Funding: Grant requests must conform to, and foster the purposes set forth in The NRA Foundation’s Articles of Incorporation. These purposes are as follows:

* To promote, advance and encourage firearms and hunting safety.
* To educate individuals, including the youth of the United States, with respect to firearms and firearms history and hunting safety and marksmanship, as well as with respect to other subjects that are of importance to the well-being of the general public.
* To conduct research in furtherance of improved firearms safety and marksmanship facilities and techniques.
* To support activities of the National Rifle Association of America, but only to the extent that such activities are in furtherance of charitable, educational or scientific purposes within the meaning of section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, or any similar provision subsequently enacted.
* To engage in any other activity that is incidental to, connected with, or in advancement of the foregoing purposes and that is within the scope of allowable purposes under 26 U.S.C. §501(c)(3).

Additionally, allowable projects must qualify under IRS 501(c)(3) regulations in one of the following categories:

* Charitable
* Scientific
* Testing for public safety
* Literary
* Educational
* Fostering national/international amateur sports competition (cannot include the provision of athletic facilities or equipment.)

The following activities are not eligible for funding:

* Projects which confer private benefit upon the applying organization/group
* Deficit financing (Payment for something already purchased or reimbursement for an event that has already taken place)
* Projects for commercial ventures (private business)
* Projects which require membership in the NRA or in the applying organization/group
* Applications from organizations/groups that have not submitted a final report for a previously awarded grant

In addition, the following limitations / restrictions apply to grants which are otherwise eligible for funding:

* No funding will be awarded to an applicant for payment of administrative fees, office overhead, or other similar charges.
* The Foundation does not approve multi-year funding of projects. Requests must be submitted for consideration each year. The fact that funds were awarded in one year shall not be construed as a guarantee of funding in subsequent years.
* Funding cannot be given for competitions requiring NRA or other club or association membership. In addition, although grants may be sought for the purpose of fostering national or international amateur sports competition, grant awards cannot be made for the purpose of providing facilities or equipment to be used in such competitions.

Regulations adopted by the Internal Revenue Service require that The NRA Foundation continue to account for the use of grant monies by the grant recipient. All organizations or groups awarded grants by the NRA Foundation must complete and return, to the Grants Manager upon completion of the project or activity, a Final Report detailing and accounting for how the grant funds were spent. Grant funds may only be expended in furtherance of the project documented on the grant application. Final Reports should be as complete as possible and include receipts for items purchased with grant funds.

Failure to submit the Final Report on a timely basis or expending grant funds for purposes other than those for which they were sought will preclude the award of further grants to the grant recipient. In addition, the NRA Foundation reserves the right to, and will demand return of grant funds which were not spent for the purposes for which the grant was awarded. Such a demand may include the initiation of legal proceedings, where appropriate, to recover misused funds. Unused grant funds should be returned to the NRA Foundation so that they may be made available to other applicants.

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PDF of Brochure (http://friendsofnra.org/images/national/brochure.pdf)

General Grant Application (https://www.grantrequest.com/SID_1048/Default.asp?CT=CT&SA=SNA&FID=35003)

Grant Application Instructions (http://www.nrafoundation.org/grants/graphics/gai.pdf)

Anyone else think we should take a shot at this?

wellerjohn
01-10-2011, 11:32 AM
I will not permit the actions of a single nut job who has nothing to do with me, doesn't speak for me nor share my beliefs alter my language. Labeling someone an enemy when their goal is to strip my civil rights is wholly appropriate. They are my enemy and an enemy of the constitution and of civil rights.

+1000

spgripside
01-10-2011, 3:48 PM
Victim disarmers are fighting we the law-abiding in a cold civil war by proxy. They are protecting criminals by disarming us and infringing the human right of self-defense into oblivion. They constantly dance in the spilled blood of innocents. They are enemies of humanity.

Well said. What can we do about them?

N6ATF
01-10-2011, 4:57 PM
Pray to the flying spaghetti monster that before they die, they are successfully prosecuted for their crimes (since they control .gov right now).

Scott Connors
01-10-2011, 6:32 PM
As a nod to the Giffords tragedy and the recent spotlight on hateful national discourse, I'd like to see us do better than labeling our fellow anti-gun citizens as "Enemies".

The reality of the situation is that they are enemies who would see us deprived of our rights and our liberties, and who probably would regard the loss of our lives as no big deal since we're not really people "like them". Trying to reshape this reality by controlling the language is the same sort of thing that the nut-job shooter was raving about. Confusion and consternation to our foes!

Paul S
01-10-2011, 10:51 PM
Suit yourself. The American people that work at these organizations also have families and want the best for our country, just like you and I do. We can disagree and even be consumed with anger at their efforts to strike at our gun rights but I'd save the word "enemy", and other BS rhetoric like it, for those who truly mean our nation harm.

In other words, take the long view:


Is not the person who would emasculate a part of the Bill of Rights a true enemy of this nation? Perhaps not in your view...but in mine these folks certainly are.

DemocracyEnaction
01-11-2011, 7:49 AM
Do you view North Korea as an enemy? The right to bear arms is one of the few defenses against the Liberals inviting Kim jong and Hugo over For beans and rice. :gunsmilie:

spgripside
01-11-2011, 12:31 PM
Here are all 16 Joyce Foundation 2010 grants for gun violence. The total amount granted for the year is $3,332,445. I'll send a lesser amount to CGF (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/) today, so we might continue fighting our enemies.


American College of Preventive Medicine (www.acpm.org)
To continue its comprehensive education and advocacy campaign aimed at strengthening support for the National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS) program.
$204,094.00

Ceasefire Pennsylvania Education Fund (www.ceasefirepa.org)
To support the engagement of Pennsylvania citizens at the grassroots level in forty targeted municipalities.
$50,000.00

Ceasefire Pennsylvania Education Fund (www.ceasefirepa.org)
To build statewide support for gun violence prevention policies in Pennsylvania
$250,000.00

Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence (www.gunfree.org)
To support national and state coalition building and state-based policy development, education, and advocacy in ongoing campaigns to end gun violence.
$125,000.00

Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence (www.ichv.org)
For general operations.
$175,000.00

Legal Community Against Violence (www.lcav.org)
To support its state legislative tracking project.
San Francisco
$33,000.00

Legal Community Against Violence (www.lcav.org)
To provide legal and technical assistance in support of state and local gun violence prevention policy reform efforts.
San Francisco
$300,000.00

Media Matters for America (www.mediamatters.org)
To support a gun and public safety issue initiative.
$400,000.00

Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence (http://home.ohioceasefire.org/)
To build support for gun violence prevention policy in Ohio.
$55,000.00

Police Executive Research Forum (www.PoliceForum.org)
To support a national study of gun enforcement practices among state and local law enforcement agencies.
$70,401.00

President and Fellows of Harvard College (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/)
To conduct and promote firearms research, disseminate research findings, provide technical assistance to advocates, police and others, and to conduct the 'Means Matter' campaign.
$600,000.00

Research Foundation of City University of New York (http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/cmcj/)
To fund the Center on Media, Crime and Justice at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice to develop in-depth and well-researched journalism on issues related to gun violence.
$79,950.00

States United to Prevent Gun Violence (http://supgv.org/)
To provide organizational development support and web/tech training and support to strengthen state gun violence prevention organizations.
$100,000.00

The Center for Public Integrity (www.publicintegrity.org)
To fund a series of investigative reports on the gun industry lobby in America.
Washington
$75,000.00

Violence Policy Center (www.vpc.org)
For research, public education, communication, advocacy, and coalition efforts in support of effective gun violence prevention policies.
$500,000.00

WAVE Educational Fund (http://www.waveedfund.org/)
To support the Wisconsin Gun Violence Prevention Project.
$315,000.00

jdberger
01-11-2011, 12:49 PM
That's the second year for Media Matters. Yet, I haven't seen anything from them regarding guns, gun violence, gun control, etc.

They're probably blowing it all on strippers and booze.

spgripside
01-11-2011, 1:06 PM
That's the second year for Media Matters. Yet, I haven't seen anything from them regarding guns, gun violence, gun control, etc.

They're probably blowing it all on strippers and booze.

The only grant from Joyce to Media Matters I'm aware of was on 7/20/10, $400,000 for 24 months. I think you're right about the strippers and booze.

From their website about me page:

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

Using the website mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions.

BigFatGuy
01-11-2011, 3:50 PM
based on that description, it sounds like they hire people to post anti-2a messages in the comments section of Fox News web articles.

the_quark
01-11-2011, 3:58 PM
At least I don't see Brady up there. Although it would be nice to see the funds for these other fascist "noble" organizations to "disappear."

By the way, I think this is a very interesting point - there's a good chance Joyce's analysis is that the national fight is lost, and they're simply trying to do rearguard action in the few places they still hold territory.

...

Oops, there I go with the military analogies, again!

jdberger
01-11-2011, 4:01 PM
From what I've been able to observe, Joyce never donated to Brady or MMM.

They get their money from other Foundations like The David Bohnett Foundation, The California Wellness Foundation and the Broad Foundations.

the_quark
01-11-2011, 4:17 PM
From what I've been able to observe, Joyce never donated to Brady or MMM.

Curse you spoiling my analogy with facts! :mad:

spgripside
01-11-2011, 4:32 PM
From what I've been able to observe, Joyce never donated to Brady or MMM.
Correct. They gave to far more dangerous organizations.


By the way, I think this is a very interesting point - there's a good chance Joyce's analysis is that the national fight is lost, and they're simply trying to do rearguard action in the few places they still hold territory.


But that doesn't line up with their mission statement:

The Joyce Foundation supports efforts to protect the natural environment of the Great Lakes, to reduce poverty and violence in the region, and to ensure that its people have access to good schools, decent jobs, and a diverse and thriving culture. We are especially interested in improving public policies, because public systems such as education and welfare directly affect the lives of so many people, and because public policies help shape private sector decisions about jobs, the environment, and the health of our communities. To ensure that public policies truly reflect public rather than private interests, we support efforts to reform the system of financing election campaigns.

I just don't see LCAV, VPC and many others being a part of the Great Lakes region.