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21SF
01-07-2011, 12:34 PM
While fishing the delta levies? Sherman Island for example.

Its pretty much the side of the road.

If UOC is not possible what would be the best way to have a firearm in reach without violating laws, while fishing from delta levies.

M. D. Van Norman
01-07-2011, 12:42 PM
If Iím not mistaken, you may carry concealed while fishing.

21SF
01-07-2011, 1:12 PM
If Iím not mistaken, you may carry concealed while fishing.


Well i founf this....
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=123231

Although i cannot figure out exactly what is legal and what is not.

So for this senario, right off public road on a levee in or around rio vista. Which of the following would be legal.

A. Loaded open carry
B. Unloaded concealed carry.
C. Neither since your next a public road.

21SF
01-07-2011, 2:09 PM
Bump im going out tomorrow, and want to be safe.

Pig Rifle
01-07-2011, 2:15 PM
Unloaded and concealed is allowed for licensed fishermen or hunters while going to, coming from or engaged in fishing/hunting. Watch for the 1000' school zones though. And of course you may load if you're in an unincorporated area where shooting has not been banned.
EDIT: Forgot to ask, is "Sherman Island" a State park? If so, I believe it's a no-go for carrying.

21SF
01-07-2011, 2:50 PM
Sherman island is not a state park if i recall correctly just the name of a small island in the delta. But the levee is right on the side of the road so loaded in any manner is no-go? Correct?

But unload cc to from a while should be ok, right?

What about UOC or UCC and a full mag in pocket?

cmth
01-07-2011, 2:55 PM
Unloaded concealed carry, with loaded concealed mags in your pocket, is your best option while fishing with a valid fishing permit. Loaded concealed carry would be possible if it's lawful to shoot there, but you may need a hunting permit in that case.

GrizzlyGuy
01-07-2011, 2:56 PM
Assuming you have a fishing license, you are OK to conceal and that would include concealing a filled mag. From 12027 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12027.html):

Section 12025 does not apply to, or affect, any of the following:

{...}

(g) Licensed hunters or fishermen carrying pistols, revolvers, or
other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person while
engaged in hunting or fishing, or transporting those firearms
unloaded when going to or returning from the hunting or fishing
expedition.

You may not be OK on the loaded part, regardless of what 12027 says. If this in within a city's limits, definitely not OK. If out in unincorporated territory, check your county codes to see if there is a prohibition on firearm discharge at that location. If there is, you can't carry loaded (as per 12031 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12031.html)).

21SF
01-07-2011, 2:57 PM
Unloaded concealed carry, with loaded concealed mags in your pocket, is your best option while fishing with a valid fishing permit. Loaded concealed carry would be possible if it's lawful to shoot there, but you may need a hunting permit in that case.

I definitely dont think its lawful to shoot there at all. Man this is so confusing !!! Time to apply for CCW

21SF
01-07-2011, 2:59 PM
Assuming you have a fishing license, you are OK to conceal and that would include concealing a filled mag. From 12027 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12027.html):



You may not be OK on the loaded part, regardless of what 12027 says. If this in within a city's limits, definitely not OK. If out in unincorporated territory, check your county codes to see if there is a prohibition on firearm discharge at that location. If there is, you can't carry loaded (as per 12031 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12031.html)).

So you agree as stated by other poster that UCC with loaded concealed mag seperate from firearm would be my best bet?

GrizzlyGuy
01-07-2011, 3:14 PM
So you agree as stated by other poster that UCC with loaded concealed mag seperate from firearm would be my best bet?

Yes, either that or UOC with the filled mags visible in a mag holder on your belt.

Thanks to 12027, you could UOC the gun and conceal the mags, but if you have the gun visible you just as well have the mags visible to reduce the chance of LEO confusion. Basically all-or-nothing on concealing.

21SF
01-07-2011, 3:18 PM
Ok i think i got it, Either way just unloaded. But if it was legal to shoot it would be ok to load.

Pig Rifle
01-07-2011, 8:23 PM
Concealing is much preferred while fishing anyhow, as it keeps fish slime, bait, water etc from getting on your gun.:cool2:

Munk
01-08-2011, 2:05 AM
fishermen and hunters were given this exemption so that they could be safe while doing their thing. It would kinda suck to face down an angry dog or even a pissed off buck with only your fishing pole.