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celticstorm
01-07-2011, 11:30 AM
I am new to this forum, however it occurred to me last night --how secure is the Member list on Calguns? At some point if the feds ever want to round up all the guns, don't you think member lists like these are going to be targeted. Just askin?:confused:

MrClamperSir
01-07-2011, 11:33 AM
Did you use your real name and address? I'm not sure how IP addresses work but it seems secure enough to not have that be an issue IMO

Uriah02
01-07-2011, 11:33 AM
Don't ever associate your contact information to your profile and you'll be fine... the laws that you'd have to get through to get that authority I think the boards would shut down or do a data wipe before it got close.

wazdat
01-07-2011, 11:33 AM
That would be pretty Orwellian. Just because you're a member of the forum doesn't necessarily mean you own firearms.

Besides, if you do own firearms, your information is already in much more accessible government databases... :(

Steyrlp10
01-07-2011, 11:34 AM
I'm sure I'm on too many alleged "lists" to count at this point. However, that's what CGF is all about -- preventing the illegal "round up" of privately owned firearms.

lgm118icbm
01-07-2011, 11:34 AM
Relax.

Bobula
01-07-2011, 11:37 AM
:TFH::TFH::TFH::TFH::TFH::TFH:

celticstorm
01-07-2011, 11:46 AM
Call me paranoid all you want :ban: You can't be too careful. My husband has spent to many years in the Army. I figure if things get really bad... we are really going to need each other.

Steve_338LM
01-07-2011, 11:47 AM
I only post here. I don't actually own any guns. I guess the govmint could round up every person named Steve and maybe get lucky and find a gun or two.

celticstorm
01-07-2011, 11:55 AM
I only post here. I don't actually own any guns. I guess the govmint could round up every person named Steve and maybe get lucky and find a gun or two.

Really! Just seems odd to me I guess. Each to his own.

eville
01-07-2011, 11:56 AM
Sadly all my guns were lost in a boating accident.

Reductio
01-07-2011, 11:59 AM
Sadly all my guns were lost in a boating accident.

Dang, must have been the boat than ran into ours. :mad: :p

frankm
01-07-2011, 12:12 PM
The Feds know who we all are anyway. See you in the camps!

maddoggie13
01-07-2011, 12:14 PM
When you purchase a firearm, they have you info...

wildhawker
01-07-2011, 12:15 PM
I am new to this forum, however it occurred to me last night --how secure is the Member list on Calguns? At some point if the feds ever want to round up all the guns, don't you think member lists like these are going to be targeted. Just askin?:confused:

See, Heller and McDonald. Also, see http://hoffmang.com/firearms/emoticons/guraanimate1.gif.

Gross confiscation is a dead issue. If anyone tried to gain access to CGN's list, they'd need a warrant. I'm quite positive Kestryll would stand firm in protecting our privacy, as would CGF.

Steve_338LM
01-07-2011, 12:19 PM
Really! Just seems odd to me I guess. Each to his own.

Actually it's more of a case of semantics. I had heard that guns (and Ted Kennedy's car) kill people, so I prefer to own firearms. It just sound so much more refined.

sevensix2x51
01-07-2011, 12:21 PM
molon labe; from my cold, dead hands; et cetera....

i think at the point this would be an issue, we would be well past the jury box, and on the brink of cracking open the ammo box. we all gotta die sometime, right? id just be sad that i wouldnt be torn apart by feral animals, like i originally intended to. :)

and yes, they already know who you are and where you live.

Skullster
01-07-2011, 12:30 PM
As has been noted, they got me, my address, phone number, driver license, type of gun, brand of gun safe, next of kin, blood type, and toilet paper brand I prefer etc at the time of my purchases.

The only thing they don't know for sure is how many rolls of tin foil I keep stashed away to make my helmets!:TFH::rofl2:

Jack L
01-07-2011, 12:34 PM
If the feds really want you, they have ways, forum or not.

celticstorm
01-07-2011, 12:45 PM
As has been noted, they got me, my address, phone number, driver license, type of gun, brand of gun safe, next of kin, blood type, and toilet paper brand I prefer etc at the time of my purchases.

The only thing they don't know for sure is how many rolls of tin foil I keep stashed away to make my helmets!:TFH::rofl2:

What toilet paper brand do you prefer? :) and whats wrong with tin foil hats :43:

blakdawg
01-07-2011, 12:49 PM
See, Heller and McDonald. Also, see http://hoffmang.com/firearms/emoticons/guraanimate1.gif.

Gross confiscation is a dead issue. If anyone tried to gain access to CGN's list, they'd need a warrant. I'm quite positive Kestryll would stand firm in protecting our privacy, as would CGF.

Therein the difference between a warrant and a subpoena - if someone had a warrant for the CGN servers, they'd just show up at the colo and take them (http://www.cio.com/article/490340/When_the_FBI_Raids_a_Data_Center_A_Rare_Danger), at gunpoint if necessary. If they just want a copy of data on the CGN servers, they send a subpoena, and then there's an opportunity for a fight in court before the data is disclosed.

CSACANNONEER
01-07-2011, 12:50 PM
I gave up worrying about that a long time ago. "They" can find my name in international shooting rags so, I'm not worried about the fact that "they" can also find me through a public forum.

BTW, have you ever filled out a 4473? Ever bought ammo, firearms or firearms related products with a CC? Ever shot in any form of competition? Ever joined the NRA or any firearms related org? Ever subscribed to a gun rag? Ever paid for a gun rag with a CC?

Flopper
01-07-2011, 1:08 PM
When you come to the point where you accept that someday you may have to just start shooting out of control jack-booted thugs, a surreal sense of serenity will descend upon your soul.

(How's that for some alliteration? :D )

Jack L
01-07-2011, 1:15 PM
When you come to the point where you accept that someday you may have to just start shooting out of control jack-booted thugs, a surreal sense of serenity will descend upon your soul.

(How's that for some alliteration? :D )

And it has happened in the past history of the USA. That's why England does not rule this land.

BluNorthern
01-07-2011, 1:17 PM
Call me paranoid all you want :ban: You can't be too careful. My husband has spent to many years in the Army. I figure if things get really bad... we are really going to need each other.Are you using your home computer? They already gotcha!!

RRangel
01-07-2011, 1:39 PM
You should never expect that there is such a thing as being truly anonymous on the internet to begin with. If so then don't join a website or ever make a post.

celticstorm
01-07-2011, 1:49 PM
You should never expect that there is such a thing as being truly anonymous on the internet to begin with. If so then don't join a website or ever make a post.

OK YOU HAVE ALL MADE YOUR POINT! SORRY I ASKED! GUNS... WHAT GUNS. I DON'T GOT NO STINKIN GUNS!:33:

HowardW56
01-07-2011, 2:25 PM
If the feds really want you, they have ways, forum or not.


:iagree:

JimWest
01-07-2011, 2:30 PM
Relax.

No! I demand to be waterboarded right now to make me tell where they are hidden! :TFH:

Jake71
01-07-2011, 2:33 PM
If the gov't tried to round up all the guns in the hands of law abidinig citizens... well, I'd just like to reference the article about there being enough guns in the US to outfit 3 armies (whatever those countries were)...

There's a lot more of us than there is them.


I'm jussssssssssstttt sayin....

Window_Seat
01-07-2011, 2:40 PM
If the feds really want you, they have ways, forum or not.:iagree:

QFT;

And if (or when) they decide to come after your guns, they will always refer to the registration database. The forum will just make them want to take the computer. The phone list with :gura: in it will make them want to take the cell phone and cut the land-line. And so on...

Erik.

Skullster
01-07-2011, 3:08 PM
What toilet paper brand do you prefer? :) and whats wrong with tin foil hats :43:

Charmin and I have nothing against tin foil hats! They oxidize so you have to make a new one frequently :)

uyoga
01-07-2011, 3:32 PM
OK YOU HAVE ALL MADE YOUR POINT! SORRY I ASKED! GUNS... WHAT GUNS. I DON'T GOT NO STINKIN GUNS!:33:

Celticstorm: Do keep on "thinking". One is not really paranoiid if "they" are really after him/her.

Do keep posting. Do keep questioning. Do stay alert.

Ding126
01-07-2011, 3:37 PM
I own no firearms. I come here for the articles and wealth of information :online2long:

Mstrty
01-07-2011, 3:51 PM
My real name is T* H****. If Kes ever let out my name to anyone, I would be utterly surprised. I feel save knowing that using a screen name will keep the Fed's away.
P.S. I do not now or have ever owned any items that could possibly be construed as a weapon in the state of California. This would inclued: firearms, knives, tasers, bats, ect.

CaliforniaLiberal
01-07-2011, 3:56 PM
And since you're a newbie here (Welcome to CalGuns Celticstorm!) we better explain some of the smilies to you.

For example this :gura: is our lawyer, J. Noble Daggett who will see you in court where you do not want to be. (If you are trying to deprive responsible, law abiding gun owners of their 2nd Amendment rights.:D:D:rolleyes::D:D)

locosway
01-07-2011, 3:56 PM
I am new to this forum, however it occurred to me last night --how secure is the Member list on Calguns? At some point if the feds ever want to round up all the guns, don't you think member lists like these are going to be targeted. Just askin?:confused:

They don't care about registration. Look at Katrina, they went door-to-door and took what they wanted.

Everything you do is logged somewhere anyway. Your toilet paper purchase, gasoline, porn, gun magazines, websites. If they wanted to they could profile people from another country without even breaking a sweat.

tba02
01-07-2011, 3:58 PM
CalBoats.net- The forum for the ones that just don't seem to float.

trautert
01-07-2011, 4:00 PM
I only read the articles, and never look at the pictures.

:)

Barbarossa
01-07-2011, 4:01 PM
I'm going to go home and Google myself tonight.

:TFH:

Hope I don't find any lists!

Dr Rockso
01-07-2011, 4:08 PM
If we ever get to that point (we won't) there are so many ways to figure out who owns guns that there we'd all be on that list (and it would be a big list). Seize the records of all the credit card companies and check to see who's ordered things from Midway, Brownells, LGSs, etc..., the circulation lists for every gun magazine, all the form 4473s from every FFL, DROS records in California.

"Perform mass confiscations" was never in the antis playbook, though. They wanted to make things illegal piecemeal, one category of gun at a time, so that most people would turn theirs in generations before the final push. This generation would have their RAWs that they couldn't pass on, the next generation would have registered semi-autos, the next would have registered pump-actions, etc... It was always about incrementalism, fortunately SCOTUS has stopped the constitutional justification for most of that nonsense in its tracks.

SteveMartin
01-07-2011, 4:47 PM
There's articles here? I just came for the pictures.

Quser.619
01-07-2011, 5:09 PM
Don't worry the government's too busy worrying about fat kids & McDonald's

CSACANNONEER
01-07-2011, 5:32 PM
My real name is T* H****. If Kes ever let out my name to anyone, I would be utterly surprised. I feel save knowing that using a screen name will keep the Fed's away.
P.S. I do not now or have ever owned any items that could possibly be construed as a weapon in the state of California. This would inclued: firearms, knives, tasers, bats, ect.

I sort of doubt that. Remeber when the Feds (ATF&E) ruled that an ordinary shoestring was a MACHINE GUN? Now, everyone look down at their feet......

marc4
01-07-2011, 10:45 PM
Wait, this is a gun forum???
Some guy in West Hollywood said this was a place to meet "Friendly Guys" with "Big Guns".
I thought he meant...?:::mnl:

Mssr. Elegant
01-07-2011, 10:57 PM
You can't be too careful.

Yes you can. :)

xenophobe
01-07-2011, 11:07 PM
If the government ever came after guns, they wouldn't be using any lists. They would go door to door and search with imaging equipment, metal detectors, etc... With somewhere between 300,000,000-600,000,000 guns owned by private citizens, no door would be safe from the knock of an inspector.

N6ATF
01-07-2011, 11:30 PM
So, they might as well fire all the nukes. Would expedite the summary executions of law-abiding citizens.

Ford8N
01-08-2011, 5:47 AM
Are you using your home computer? They already gotcha!!

WhatIsMyIPAddress.com

* My IP
* IP Lookup
* Blacklist C


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