Why can`t I not pick up brass?????

[big jon]

Just got back from AZ, we left on Thursday went up to St, Johns and back to Phx area yesterday. today we went shooting with the family, and the first thing i do is collect 4 pockets full of 223, 9mm, 45acp, 44mag , brass? I dont need another piece,, just couldnt help it? Am I the only one who dose this when shooting at public ranges?

[xenophobe]

Are you picking up your own brass, or someone elses?

If it's not yours, you might be stealing from the range. Many ranges sort and resell brass. It also helps give them some much needed money. If it's not yours, at least ask the range if you're allowed to do it.

[m1371]

Just got back from AZ, we left on Thursday went up to St, Johns and back to Phx area yesterday. today we went shooting with the family, and the first thing i do is collect 4 pockets full of 223, 9mm, 45acp, 44mag , brass? I dont need another piece,, just couldnt help it? Am I the only one who dose this when shooting at public ranges?

If it's an outdoor range, policing up after you shoot is usually standard.

Like Xenophobe said, most indoor ranges collect up all the spent casings on their own. You should be gtg if policing up your own stuff, but scooping up everything in sight is likely a bit much.

I generally will not pick up brass after I've shot, just a quick sweep with the broom to neaten up before I leave. BUT I do make it a point to pick up my own casings if I've been shooting 10mm. Generally don't see that flavor laying around on the range floor very much, and I've got a buddy who reloads them for me.

[big jon]

Are you picking up your own brass, or someone elses?

If it's not yours, you might be stealing from the range. Many ranges sort and resell brass. It also helps give them some much needed money. If it's not yours, at least ask the range if you're allowed to do it.

I was at a open area that the folks who live their made, i was picking up someone elses brass that was left behind,(reloading thing)

[The Soup Nazi]

Yeah, I've seen a couple of people just walk around the range looking for brass to put in his pouch, even searching through the bin where everyone disposes of their unwanted casings. Range Officers didn't mind, this was at Metcalf. I persoally collect my brass as a souvenir though I might take up collecting for as many calibers as possible, of course if it isn't mine, I'll be sure to ask em if they don't look interested in reloading or picking up their own brass.

[slickjoesd]

I am A LEO in the military, like 10-15 years ago something like 4-5 CHP's died with pockets full of brass. At the range we are instructed to pick up our brass when we are done. So they make it a point not to worry about the brass untill we are all done and ready to go.

[Stanze]

I like to pick up range brass, go on drive bys and toss them out the window littering the crime scene evidence.:p

Just kiddin'.;)

[SemiAutoSam]

Why can`t I not pick up brass?????

This looks suspiciously like a double negative.

[ohsmily]

Why can`t I not pick up brass?????

This looks suspiciously like a double negative.

He meant it as a double negative. He is asking why (facetiously) he feels compelled to pick up brass...get it?

[SemiAutoSam]

He meant it as a double negative. He is asking why (facetiously) he feels compelled to pick up brass...get it?

Ohh yes thank you mighty Wordsmith, Lawsmith, Gunsmith? :rolleyes:

[big jon]

I am A LEO in the military, like 10-15 years ago something like 4-5 CHP's died with pockets full of brass. At the range we are instructed to pick up our brass when we are done. So they make it a point not to worry about the brass untill we are all done and ready to go.

That was in Newhall years ago I rember it happened a few years befor i went to the academy,

[gose]

I always pick up my own brass only. If someone next to me is shooting a caliber Im reloading, I might, or might not, ask if he's keeping his brass.

[phish]

It really depends on the range. There was a ton of 5.56 LC brass laying around the firing points at San Leandro and the RO let me take it, even thanked me for making his life easier.

I like to scan around for odd-ball casings. I've found .257 Weatherby Mag, .338 *.mag, .300 Win Mag, and some kind of uber-Mag, the one at the end of Hornady's reloading manual.

[VeryCoolCat]

The MAJORITY of in door ranges (usually the same ones that won't let to shoot wolf or blaser which I believe is so they can either get brass or make you shoot their ammo) Don't allow you to pick up brass because they can reload it themselves or sell it.

Plenty of ranges that rent revolvers will sometimes ask you to put the brass back into the box.

Most Outdoor ranges are another story. They require you to pick up your brass and some people might let you take theirs.

[vega]

Am I the only one who dose this when shooting at public ranges?
You're not alone, I do it myself too. If I shoot indoor, I only collect my brass. Outdoor. I asked the guy shooting beside me if I can collect his brass if he doesn't reload. Once he puts it in the bucket I don't touch it. Some guys even go bucket to bucket and collect the brass they want without even asking the RO.

[bu-bye]

I am A LEO in the military, like 10-15 years ago something like 4-5 CHP's died with pockets full of brass. At the range we are instructed to pick up our brass when we are done. So they make it a point not to worry about the brass untill we are all done and ready to go.

How did they die? I dont get it?:confused: Did they walk past the firingline while others were still shooting?

I always pick up my own brass and I sometimes ask the shooter next to me if I can have his when he is done. Non-reloaders look at me like I'm crazy and usually say "but...I already fired it:confused: ." :D

I don't walk around to other bays and pickup brass without asking either the shooter or the range masters first.

[slickjoesd]

How did they die? I dont get it?:confused: Did they walk past the firingline while others were still shooting?

I always pick up my own brass and I sometimes ask the shooter next to me if I can have his when he is done. Non-reloaders look at me like I'm crazy and usually say "but...I already fired it:confused: ." :D

I don't walk around to other bays and pickup brass without asking either the shooter or the range masters first.

No no no not at the range on the job, but they had it in their mind that they had to pick up the brass... the old sayin "Practice how you play" .... and yes in newhall

[BLFD1]

Well, if anyone wants to collect 7.62x39 brass for me I'll take it off your hands... I have an *****load of .223, now I just need a bunch of
7.62x39 so I can start my reloading extravaganza! :D

[xenophobe]

Reselling brass is not limited to indoor ranges. Los Altos Rod & Gun sorts brass and sells it to reloaders, at least when I worked there they did.

I think Sunnyvale Rod & Gun does as well, but am not positive.

[ibbryn]

The CHP officers died in a gunfight during the revolver era. They'd been taught on the firing range to dump the brass directly into their pockets to keep the range neat and tidy. They definitly should have been doing something else with their time during the gun fight than saving their brass. Train like you fight....

I have brass I collected before I was able to break myself of the compulsion. Probably a big shoe box full of once fired 9mm and .223. I can't bring myself to throw it away. Anyone want it? PM me for my location and transfer details.

[bu-bye]

No no no not at the range on the job, but they had it in their mind that they had to pick up the brass... the old sayin "Practice how you play" .... and yes in newhall

O-M-G:eek: :eek: Your kinding!!! Who in their right mind would even think about brass while in a gun battle!?!?!?

[50ae]

They weren't thinking, they were working off muscle memory and it was just an automatic thing to dump the brass in their pockets. Now they beat into you to let it drop and police the range after everyone is done. A buddy and I got several 5 gallon buckets full after we were done with quals. I also have thousands of 45 rounds from when I was in the Navy and they let me take the brass home.

I also collect odd calibers to add to the collection when I find them.

O-M-G:eek: :eek: Your kinding!!! Who in their right mind would even think about brass while in a gun battle!?!?!?

[Pokey]

To clarify for anyone not familiar with the incident.
The officers, during training on the range, were taught:
Fire 6
Dump brass into hand and pocket
Reload
Resume
That was how they trained thus that is how they fought. Their bodies were found with empty guns and a pocket full of brass. Under stress the body resorts to its previous programming. Unfortunately their programming (training)was faulty. At least it was recognized and created a sweeeping change in training methodology.

[BLFD1]

The CHP officers died in a gunfight during the revolver era. They'd been taught on the firing range to dump the brass directly into their pockets to keep the range neat and tidy. They definitly should have been doing something else with their time during the gun fight than saving their brass. Train like you fight....

I have brass I collected before I was able to break myself of the compulsion. Probably a big shoe box full of once fired 9mm and .223. I can't bring myself to throw it away. Anyone want it? PM me for my location and transfer details.


Well, if you're giving it away...by chance are you in the Sata Cruz area?

[rorschach]

I am A LEO in the military, like 10-15 years ago something like 4-5 CHP's died with pockets full of brass. At the range we are instructed to pick up our brass when we are done. So they make it a point not to worry about the brass untill we are all done and ready to go.

More like 36 years ago. http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/newhall.html

This incident is drilled into the head of every CHP cadet since. On the first day of officer safety class, an instructor hides in the back of class and scares the ***** out of everyone by shutting off the lights, firing off 4 blanks, then the overhead projector goes on and theres a huge color pic of all four officers on slabs at the L.A. County morgue, still in uniform.

When I went through, we still picked up our brass, but only after we were done shooting for the day. Highway Patrol weapons instructors are still pretty anal about leaving trash at their house.

When I shoot at Burro Canyon, the only thing they ask you pick up is shotgun shells. I dont think most people mind, I know I sure dont. Other than that, I dont bother with rifle brass, because its mostly berdan or steelcased, and I have too much handgun brass anyway.

[ohsmily]

Well, if you're giving it away...by chance are you in the Sata Cruz area?

I already PMed him to figure out his location. He has not responded back yet. It seems that it wouldn't be that much of a privacy issue to post your city or county on your profile...

[elsolo]

Last weekend I was at an outdoor range that has a serious brass problem.
I brought home 70# of pistol brass.

[ibbryn]

"It seems that it wouldn't be that much of a privacy issue to post your city or county on your profile..."

Not to sound too cranky but it actually is. Some people (me) have more "issues" than others. :)

[1919_4_ME]

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[Charliegone]

Ohh yes thank you mighty Wordsmith, Lawsmith, Gunsmith? :rolleyes:

I must say some of you are very interesting characters.:D