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Khram
01-06-2011, 1:54 PM
If you would have had a choice what would you have carried of the available guns if you were in World War 2? I'd probably go with the stg44 and a Browning High Power or maybe a 1911. That would have made you on the Nazi side though, 1911 would have been possible as one of the Norwegian ones. An FG42 would be neat too but probably heavy and finicky.

Being on US side would be harder choice. Probably would depend on area you were fighting in would be hard to decide between BAR,Garand and Thompson. Would mabe want a Winchester mod 12 or 97 for certain things.

The PPsh41 would be a neat gun too but I'd pick a Stg44 first out of all the guns I mentioned.

I can't think of any of the Italian,British,French or Japanese guns I'd pick as a first choice though I otherwise enjoy collectiong and shooting them.

olhunter
01-06-2011, 1:57 PM
"The greatest battle implement ever devised."

-- General George S. Patton, Jr.

That one.

October
01-06-2011, 2:01 PM
BAR. But I would have invented a 30 round box mag.

Twoodland
01-06-2011, 2:02 PM
"The greatest battle implement ever devised."

-- General George S. Patton, Jr.

That one.


Agreed!

m1 garand AND a Thompson m1

AJAX22
01-06-2011, 2:06 PM
Drum type Thompson and a 1911

One type of ammo, and very effective.

Khram
01-06-2011, 2:06 PM
Agreed!

m1 garand AND a Thompson m1

Too heavy, why I think Audie Murphy preferred the m1carbine. But he was a small guy.

Khram
01-06-2011, 2:08 PM
Drum type Thompson and a 1911

One type of ammo, and very effective.

Agreed but the lack of peneteration and range makes me choose the Stg44 first. Good compromise of range,power,weight between say a Garand and the various smg's of the era.

Agustav
01-06-2011, 2:08 PM
M1 Carbine for me too... as I am tiny! :(

Khram
01-06-2011, 2:13 PM
I like the short handy carbine but the lack of power especially with fmj just bugs me. Have heard too many failure to stop stories some from people that used them in self defence in USA. Maybe an m2 carbine I could live with :)

Anyone of you would choose the G41 or G43 or the SVT40?

FeuerFrei
01-06-2011, 2:22 PM
BAR or MG42
Done and done. :36:

Khram
01-06-2011, 2:28 PM
I may have to change my vote to MG42 :)

Twoodland
01-06-2011, 2:38 PM
Too heavy, why I think Audie Murphy preferred the m1carbine. But he was a small guy.

it's a bit of weight but I am a 6' 2" freight train. ;)

Eat Dirt
01-06-2011, 2:40 PM
Thompson for me ................100 %

It just fits right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Had one a while back

Sgt. Saunders Fan ( Not Sgt . Bilko )

You should make this a poll ............

Fate
01-06-2011, 2:49 PM
I've shot all of the U.S. small arms (except the B.A.R. - only held/shouldered one of those). Even though I'm 6'1", I'd still choose the M1 Carbine. Everything else is far too heavy. If I had to pick a SMG, I'd go with the Grease Gun over the Thompson. Again, lighter and more compact. Any enemy at distance is better dealt with by mortar or artillery than a rifle. ;)

CaliforniaLiberal
01-06-2011, 2:52 PM
I'm rather partial to the 16-inch (406 mm) / 50 cal. Mark 7 guns on the Iowa class battleships. Their ease of carry is not an issue, I'd leave them mounted on the ships.

NeuTag
01-06-2011, 2:54 PM
I'd have to go with the Swedish Lungman AG42 semi-auto rifle and any revolver of the period. I like weapons that don't jamb up after a few hundred rounds or require high maintenance in the field.

res2580
01-06-2011, 2:56 PM
M2 CARBINE for me!

rromeo
01-06-2011, 2:57 PM
M1 carbine.

hefedehefe
01-06-2011, 3:00 PM
Flame thrower, M1, and 1911

Ricky-Ray
01-06-2011, 3:19 PM
BAR, M1919 or Flamethrower and a 1911 for sidearm.

Cowboy T
01-06-2011, 3:21 PM
Whatever my company commander gave me to use. That's what Simo Hayha did, and he did pretty darn well. "Practice, practice, practice!"

choprzrul
01-06-2011, 3:26 PM
Any model of sniper rifle with the best optics that I could get at the time.

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Volksgrenadier
01-06-2011, 3:28 PM
If I had my choice? Hmmm, well how about a Field Marshal's baton? LoL:D

Other than that, I would have to go with a Suomi 31 as a primary, with a Lahti or TT-33 as a sidearm.

Then all I would need would be some skis, a reindeer to pull me around, a white snow suit, some smokes, a puukko skinning knife, more smokes, and Jane Russell (for morale :tt1:) and I think we could call it good.

Milsurp Collector
01-06-2011, 3:28 PM
http://www.lanl.gov/history/admin/files/Fat_Man_and_Little_Boy_Replicas_di070053003-1.jpg

Eddie1965
01-06-2011, 3:30 PM
M1941 Johnson LMG and a 1911.

tacticalcity
01-06-2011, 3:30 PM
Thompson, 1911 and a revolver as backup for my backup. There was a lot more CQB than most people realize, especially in Europe. So I would want to be the light and nimble one of my platoon. There were always plenty of guys with Garands around to make those longer shots, but I would hate to be that guy clearing house to house and room to room in some of those cramped Italian mountainside villages made out of brick and stone with such a long semi-auto rifle. So I would do my best to keep my head down in the open field battles and let the guys with the right tools handle that long range stuff, and be best equipped to survive the sieges of hardened encampments, towns and cities.

Ricky-Ray
01-06-2011, 3:35 PM
There were always plenty of guys with Garands around, and I would hate to be that guy clearing house to house and room to room in some of those cramped Italian mountside villages made out of brick and stone.


That's where the flamethrower comes in.... :43:

WilliamAnderson
01-06-2011, 3:48 PM
My m1 made in 1941

racky
01-06-2011, 3:49 PM
thompson and 1911

Tom Slick
01-06-2011, 3:55 PM
One 20 mm Hispano AN-M2C cannon and four .50 caliber Browning machine guns...on my North American P-38.

cmaher55
01-06-2011, 3:57 PM
I would have carried what they told me to carry as I would not have had a choice I am sure. That being said I'd say a Garand for me as I shoot very well with all of mine. The carbine is good but it's more of a pop gun and runs out of poop at 200 meters or so based on my experience. I've heard stories of smaller guys carrying BAR's during the war and if an officer saw that they would make them switch and give the BAR to the bigger guys.... Regards

grammaton76
01-06-2011, 3:59 PM
Whatever my company commander gave me to use. That's what Simo Hayha did, and he did pretty darn well. "Practice, practice, practice!"

Pretty much the right answer. I have a hunch any attempts to "choose" would have been met with "That's a cute thought. Now here's what you're GOING to use."

That having been said, it'd vary depending on where I was (and I don't think you got to choose your battles ;) ). You're going to suck as a distance marksman with a Thompson, and you're going to suck at clearing houses with an M1 Garand.

Khram
01-06-2011, 4:16 PM
My question was mainly theoretical. Sometimes you do get a choice too. My dad turned down a shotgun in Vietnam when asked if he wanted it. Also turned down M203 due to weight.

Have heard of many finding ways to not carry a m1 carbine.

Argonaut
01-06-2011, 4:16 PM
Drum type Thompson and a 1911

One type of ammo, and very effective.

Military Thompsons never had drums and would not even accept one if you had it.

Khram
01-06-2011, 4:19 PM
Military Thompsons never had drums and would not even accept one if you had it.

The later models didn't. Here and there some of the earlier models that could take drums were issued by various militaries. I believe one example would be Britains commando forces.

Eddie1965
01-06-2011, 4:20 PM
Military Thompsons never had drums and would not even accept one if you had it.

The British got a lot of the older model Thompsons with drums under the lend/lease program.

choprzrul
01-06-2011, 4:35 PM
Upon further reflection, I think that I would prefer to have been carried rather than being the one doing the carrying:

http://lynchmob.freeyellow.com/02-john-h-p-51.jpg

trautert
01-06-2011, 4:41 PM
After 23 years as a grunt, I'm guessing I would have been carrying a Garand. I could live with that.

rromeo
01-06-2011, 4:52 PM
grammaton, the Marine Raider Battalions did offer some choice for personal weapons.

Super Spy
01-06-2011, 5:00 PM
The P-51 I was flying would have been carrying a bunch of .50 cal machine guns.......

saki302
01-06-2011, 5:11 PM
Easy- Garand or BAR.

-Dave

Ergo the Qualmed
01-06-2011, 5:20 PM
Well, small numbers of SKS rifles were tested against the Germans towards the end of the war...so...

SKS for me! And then maybe a HiPower or something.

Khram
01-06-2011, 5:23 PM
You would rather have an SKS than a STG44? Someone should start similar threads for different eras. I'd of wanted a LeMat revolver or two in US civil war!

elSquid
01-06-2011, 5:48 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Sergeant_H.A._Marshall_of_the_Sniper_Section%2C_Th e_Calgary_Highlanders.jpg

That's +1 to-hit, +5 to general awesomeness.

-- Michael

Ergo the Qualmed
01-06-2011, 6:04 PM
You would rather have an SKS than a STG44? Someone should start similar threads for different eras. I'd of wanted a LeMat revolver or two in US civil war!

Yeh. I know how to use my SKS; i've never even seen an STG44 in person haha. Also, don't you need to hold the STGs by the magazine, not the barrel?

Also, no magazines to lose, and it is the only gun I own that doesn't need a screwdriver for the takedown...hehe

Saigon1965
01-06-2011, 6:12 PM
Neat thread -

Carbine for me - Am a little guy -

Khram
01-06-2011, 6:15 PM
Yeh. I know how to use my SKS; i've never even seen an STG44 in person haha. Also, don't you need to hold the STGs by the magazine, not the barrel?

Also, no magazines to lose, and it is the only gun I own that doesn't need a screwdriver for the takedown...hehe

Good points.

Khram
01-06-2011, 6:15 PM
Neat thread -

Carbine for me - Am a little guy -

What handgun or just carry extra ammo and grenades?

Saigon1965
01-06-2011, 6:17 PM
1911 - Lots of nades - 2 belts worth -

Saigon1965
01-06-2011, 6:19 PM
Interesting you said this - The idea for bulletbutton from Prince50 came from his love of SKS -

Also, no magazines to lose, and it is the only gun I own that doesn't need a screwdriver for the takedown...hehe

Ergo the Qualmed
01-06-2011, 6:33 PM
Interesting you said this - The idea for bulletbutton from Prince50 came from his love of SKS -

Eh, pardon my unknowledgeability, but what do you mean by this?

hollowpoint67
01-06-2011, 6:35 PM
I'd have to go with the Swedish Lungman AG42 semi-auto rifle and any revolver of the period. I like weapons that don't jamb up after a few hundred rounds or require high maintenance in the field.

I think you should pick again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag_m/42

hollowpoint67
01-06-2011, 6:35 PM
this is an easy question.

StG 44 and a PPsH.

Saigon1965
01-06-2011, 6:36 PM
Prince50 designed the bulletbutton - The SKSs inspired him - Takedown with a pointed tip -
Eh, pardon my unknowledgeability, but what do you mean by this?

Ergo the Qualmed
01-06-2011, 6:44 PM
Prince50 designed the bulletbutton - The SKSs inspired him - Takedown with a pointed tip -

Ahh ok. I had heard about the SKS being inspiration for the BB, but didn't know who did it; that's why I was confused. Thanks!

11011500a
01-06-2011, 7:00 PM
Caterpillar D7 & Thompson, that's my Calvery charge. Why go room to room when you can just go through it.

OHOD
01-06-2011, 7:25 PM
MG42 and a StG44

BillCA
01-06-2011, 7:40 PM
Of the available weapons in WW-II, very few were "well rounded" battle weapons suitable for all-purpose use. MBR's used full size cartridges in long rifles that were unwieldly in urban CQB. Carbines and SMG's used pistol calibers unsuited for long-distance open field battles.

For me, being a short guy, weapons like the M1918 BAR would be out of the question. Allowed to choose any gun from any of the nations, here are my choices for a "long gun".

#1Choice: M3A1 Grease Gun - 7.63 lbs
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/8/88/TGK-M3GreaseGunA.jpg/600px-TGK-M3GreaseGunA.jpg
Combine the size, weight and firepower of the .45 ACP, the M3A1 gets my vote. It's light enough to carry, compact enough to not hang up on bushes or in CQB and it hits hard within 200 yards.


#2 Choice: Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 (FG-42) - 9-11 lbs
http://www.superdrummy.com/fg42.jpg
Build a select-fire, 20-round rifle around the 7.92x57 Mauser round that's roughly the same size as the Mauser 98K and lighter than the BAR. Give it a 750 rpm fire rate and a built-in bipod. Call it the M14's grandpappy.

#3 Choice: U.S. M1/M2 Carbine - 5.2 lbs
Light, handy, durable and easy to maintain, the M1 and M2 (FA) carbines lacked only a longer range cartridge. Yet, the M1 Carbine's power exceeds that of the .357 Magnum out to 200 yards while being a light, compact round. It may have been a glorified pistol, but many soldiers loved the lighter weight and faster handling, especially in CQB.


USA: (by weight)
M1/M2 Carbine - 5.2 lbs - .30 Carbine
M1903 Springfield - 8.67 lbs - .30-06
M1917 Enfield - 9.18 lbs - .30-06
M1 Garand Rifle - 9.5 lbs - .30-06
M1941 Johnson Carbine - 9.5 lbs - .30-06
M1A1 Thomson SMG - ~10.5 lbs - .45 ACP
M1918 BAR - 16lbs (M1911: 24 lbs) - .30-06

M2A1 Flamethrower - 68 lbs loaded, 48 lbs empty!
The flamethrower's life expectancy in combat ranged from 8-17 hours. Not only did the enemy see you as a high priority threat to be neutralized, but malfunctions and stray rounds could cause an inconvienent "incident". These were either lethal or very painful for the operator. Heavy, bulky, awkward to use and prone to malfunctions limited their use during WW-II.

Mk2 Grenade - 1.31 lbs (two or three were typically carried as their weight and bulk added up quickly)

British:
Lee Enfield SMLE .303 Rifle - 8.8 lbs.
Bren .303 LMG - 21-22 lbs

German
Mauser 98K Carbine - 8.2 lbs - (8x57)
Maschinenpistole 40 (MP40) - 8.8 lbs - (9mm)
Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 (FG-42) - 9-11 lbs (7.92x57)
Sturmgewehr 44 (StG 44) - 11.4 lbs - (7.92x33 Kurz)
Maschinengewehr MG-42 - 25.5 lbs - (7.92x57)

TNP'R
01-06-2011, 7:43 PM
M1 garand,1911 and a ka-bar

ajmclean
01-06-2011, 8:12 PM
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii167/homeslice3553/IMG_9197.jpg

mosinnagantm9130
01-06-2011, 9:18 PM
I'd have to go with the Swedish Lungman AG42 semi-auto rifle and any revolver of the period. I like weapons that don't jamb up after a few hundred rounds or require high maintenance in the field.

:kest:

As far as semi-auto's go, both M1's, the G43, or the SVT-40 would be a much better choice than the AG42.

M1 carbine for me.

t0kie
01-06-2011, 9:21 PM
M1 Garand & a 1911
________
Kid depakote (http://www.classactionsettlements.org/lawsuit/depakote/)

nick
01-06-2011, 9:22 PM
I'd carry a pen and a large stack of papers, if I could arrange it :)

Better yet, I'd carry a very small wallet with a few $100,000 notes and manufacture Shermans or Garands, or supply those crummy rations.

jimmykan
01-06-2011, 11:12 PM
I would have been carrying a FN SCAR-L, Glock 17, iPhone 4...

And driving around in a DMC Delorean. How else would I have gone back in time to WWII?

:shifty:

Who am I kidding, I don't even have any of those things in the present.

Cato
01-06-2011, 11:37 PM
Just a 1911: I'd try to build up a legend of invincibilty. I heard McCarther and Patton used to stand up amongst the heat of the battle in WWI in a pissing contest of who is braver. That's pretty awesome in my opinion.

If I was just a common foot soldier, I'd love a 1903.

noob_tube
01-06-2011, 11:58 PM
Just a 1911. I would have been in the rear with the gear :D

joeypounds
01-07-2011, 11:49 AM
On the open Battlefield M1 Garand, city fighting a Thompson.

bohoki
01-07-2011, 1:23 PM
my carbine is light and 30 round mags work great

i need to keep light cause i want a backpack full of grenades

smle-man
01-07-2011, 1:29 PM
Military Thompsons never had drums and would not even accept one if you had it.

The U.S. issued M1928 Thompsons and 50 rd drums prior to WW2 and for a short time after that. The M1 and M1A1 would only take stick magazines.

And, I would carry whatever the Platoon Sergeant told me to carry.

gun toting monkeyboy
01-07-2011, 2:48 PM
Why even screw around?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Little_boy.jpg

Get it over with, save millions of lives. End of story.

Springfield45
01-07-2011, 5:11 PM
If I get to choose I want a P-47 Thunderbolt with 8 x 50 cal. machine guns. And a 1911.
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Midland2007/Highlights/P47Midland07.jpg

Rob454
01-07-2011, 5:14 PM
On the Allied side

1911 and Garand

On the German side

Luger and a Mauser

Nihonto Chicken
01-07-2011, 6:39 PM
1911A1 for last ditch defense, otherwise ...

http://gastatic.com/UserImages/19764/986490643/pop_wm_2505758.jpg

JMHO, FWIW. :D

Milsurp Collector
01-07-2011, 7:57 PM
Why even screw around?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Little_boy.jpg

Get it over with, save millions of lives. End of story.

Wish I'd thought of that. Oh wait...

http://www.lanl.gov/history/admin/files/Fat_Man_and_Little_Boy_Replicas_di070053003-1.jpg

Bukowski
01-07-2011, 8:25 PM
One of the great side effects of my job is being able to talk with quite a few WWII vets.

I'd always considered myself more of a Garand guy, but recently I've been talking to a Vet (Italy) who couldn't say enough good things about a M1 carbine with 20 round magazines.

"Surprised a lot of Germans" was his response when I asked him how well it worked. Of course if I was carrying 10 gallons of water/ gasoline on resupply missions like a human burro, the Garand might not be my first choice either.

He got my interest, and now I'm in the market for one...:cool2:

Dr.Mauser
01-07-2011, 11:21 PM
M1A1 Carbine and M1911, maybe a Thompson

skscj
01-07-2011, 11:56 PM
M1 Garand

7.62x54R
01-08-2011, 12:04 AM
M1 Garand/Carbine and 1911

Dr.Mauser
01-08-2011, 11:50 AM
What movie is that from?
Of the available weapons in WW-II, very few were "well rounded" battle weapons suitable for all-purpose use. MBR's used full size cartridges in long rifles that were unwieldly in urban CQB. Carbines and SMG's used pistol calibers unsuited for long-distance open field battles.

For me, being a short guy, weapons like the M1918 BAR would be out of the question. Allowed to choose any gun from any of the nations, here are my choices for a "long gun".

#1Choice: M3A1 Grease Gun - 7.63 lbs
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/8/88/TGK-M3GreaseGunA.jpg

Dr.Mauser
01-08-2011, 11:52 AM
1911A1 for last ditch defense, otherwise ...

http://gastatic.com/UserImages/19764/986490643/pop_wm_2505758.jpg

JMHO, FWIW. :D


Is that yours?!?!?!

Fate
01-08-2011, 12:25 PM
Thompson, 1911 and a revolver as backup for my backup. There was a lot more CQB than most people realize, especially in Europe. So I would want to be the light and nimble one of my platoon.

Uh...light and nimble the Thompson ain't. :D

Dr.Mauser
01-08-2011, 1:07 PM
Doesnt it weigh near 9 pounds?

AIMSMALL
01-08-2011, 1:18 PM
Thompson, 1911 and a revolver as backup for my backup. There was a lot more CQB than most people realize, especially in Europe. So I would want to be the light and nimble one of my platoon. There were always plenty of guys with Garands around to make those longer shots, but I would hate to be that guy clearing house to house and room to room in some of those cramped Italian mountainside villages made out of brick and stone with such a long semi-auto rifle. So I would do my best to keep my head down in the open field battles and let the guys with the right tools handle that long range stuff, and be best equipped to survive the sieges of hardened encampments, towns and cities.

I like your style, thats what I'd want to do too.

Exile Machine
01-08-2011, 1:37 PM
I would have been carrying a FN SCAR-L, Glock 17, iPhone 4...


Just FYI the iPhone 4 would be worthless in WWII. No network.

I'd carry a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range, with an extra energy cell. Because if I had to time travel back to WWII I'd first travel forward in time to get some real firepower.

-Mark

freonr22
01-08-2011, 2:09 PM
machete and a backpack full of grenades

SAR_boats
01-08-2011, 2:51 PM
Winchester 1897 Trenchgun and a 1911.

Full Clip
01-08-2011, 2:57 PM
This:
http://cs3361.k12.sd.us/Event/Russian%20ppsh41-01.jpg
And this:

NeuTag
01-08-2011, 3:25 PM
:kest:

As far as semi-auto's go, both M1's, the G43, or the SVT-40 would be a much better choice than the AG42.

M1 carbine for me.

To each his own...I went by what I have actually shot and owned. The elegant simplicity and accuracy of the Lungmand action makes it a no brainer. The gas system was adapted by Stoner for the AR series of rifles. The problem with the M1 grand was shown in the Korean conflict several times when hoards of Chinese charged the American lines and many M1s would jamb under the pressure of firing all day.

On the otherhand, I too would have picked the M1 carbine until I bought a Rasheed carbine. The Rasheed is a Lungman action scaled down with a better cartridge than the M1 carbine.

MG34
01-08-2011, 3:29 PM
MG34

NYY
01-09-2011, 12:16 AM
post up behind a Stolen German 20 mike mike (20mm) with a 1911 on my side and wheeling a thompson. buts thats just me ;D

BillCA
01-09-2011, 10:33 AM
What movie is that from?

The M3A1 Grease Gun photo is from the movie Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War. In Asian cinema, this was widely seen as South Korea's own Saving Private Ryan reflecting the pain and anguish of the Korean people, but also showcasing epic Korean War battle sequences.
Read more at the Internet movie firearms database (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Taegukgi) (imfdb).

hk91666
01-09-2011, 11:30 AM
Fat Boy or the other one LOL

Spiggy
01-09-2011, 11:59 AM
Just a 1911: I'd try to build up a legend of invincibilty. I heard McCarther and Patton used to stand up amongst the heat of the battle in WWI in a pissing contest of who is braver. That's pretty awesome in my opinion.

If I was just a common foot soldier, I'd love a 1903.
in WW1, Patton was shot in the thigh.

On more than one occasion(after a few drinks), he would drop his pants and call himself a "Half-Assed General"


There's a cool story.
During the battle of the bulge, during the dark and severe fog a small squad was tasked to watch for tanks. One of the soldiers in the squad was issued a bazooka. While on patrol, they walked into a parked tiger tank. With little thinking, they shot into the tank at 6 yards away.


This happened three times during the night. :D

glennsche
01-09-2011, 1:02 PM
for me it would depend on the theater.

the pacific with its relatively closer ranges in the jungles or clearing hard to find bunkers, i think a thompson would be the thing to have.

the longer ranges of the e. front, i think the garand or the svt or something semi shooting a full sized round would be the one for me.

samspade77
01-09-2011, 1:32 PM
M1 Garrand and a crucifix. I forgot...as much ammo as I could carry.

Rogerbutthead
01-09-2011, 1:33 PM
Bren for me. Wish I owned one.

Spiggy
01-09-2011, 2:29 PM
Bren or ZB26/30?

ConfucianScholar
01-09-2011, 2:50 PM
I'm a big guy so I think I coulda managed with MP40 machine gun and a luger for a side arm. Oh yeah and a couple of those potato masher grenades too.

ConfucianScholar
01-09-2011, 2:51 PM
Sorry, my family comes from that part of Europe so I woulda been drafted into the German forces.

Eat Dirt
01-10-2011, 5:30 PM
M1 Garrand and a crucifix. I forgot...as much ammo as I could carry.



That makes me remember a famous quote::

There are NO atheists in foxholes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Praise the Lord and pass the Ammo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

westcoast362
01-10-2011, 6:47 PM
I'll take an M1 carbine. I'll let the guys with the M-1's and the BAR's go in front of me, and I'll pick off anybody that gets past them.

MyMalteseFalcon
01-11-2011, 9:44 PM
I'd carry a Thompson with drum and two 1911's. To bad they didn't have extended mags for the .45 back then! Would of been cool....

Next question...what if the Roman Army had SMG's, jeeps and tanks?

Where the H**L would we be now?
:)

Spiggy
01-11-2011, 10:38 PM
I'd carry a Thompson with drum and two 1911's. To bad they didn't have extended mags for the .45 back then! Would of been cool....

Next question...what if the Roman Army had SMG's, jeeps and tanks?

Where the H**L would we be now?
:)
You need a shield

http://captain-america.us/wallpaper/images/cap_quote.JPG

Edge
01-11-2011, 11:33 PM
M1 Garand and a 1911. I like the classics.

MyMalteseFalcon
01-11-2011, 11:57 PM
Thanks Spiggy, I'll remember that when I'm using a spear to go into battle with...!

John-Melb
01-12-2011, 3:27 AM
I'd carry whatever everybody else was carrying.

Being seen as "different" in either equipment, arms or uniform tends to attract unwanted and unpleasant attention from people like snipers.

BillCA
01-13-2011, 1:41 AM
I'd carry a Thompson with drum and two 1911's. To bad they didn't have extended mags for the .45 back then! Would of been cool....

Next question...what if the Roman Army had SMG's, jeeps and tanks?

Where the H**L would we be now?
:)

The real question is where would we be now if the Spartans had mechanized warfare. The mind boggles. The Spartans thought the Romans were neophytes when it came to warfare. :eek:

m1a1driver
01-13-2011, 5:07 AM
STG44

Noonanda
01-13-2011, 7:42 AM
You would carry whatever you were given by your country of origin. A new soldier aint allowed to just choose what he wants to carry, he does as he is told, or to quote "Silence of the lambs" It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.:D

Now if in an alternate reality where I could choose what era specific weapons I was allowed to carry regardless of national origin I would go with the SVT-40 or 1903A4 and M-1911 pistol.

jetcobra428
01-13-2011, 7:45 AM
M1A1 Thompson all the way with all the mags I could carry. Sure its heavy but its built like a tank and could probably be run over by a truck and still function. And a 1911 on the side.

MyMalteseFalcon
01-13-2011, 9:21 AM
Anybody notice how popular the Colt 1911 is?

I have two of them and will never trade them in...you can keep you 9mm, I like to make big holes and make sure I get the job done!

furyous68
01-13-2011, 10:14 AM
I would have been carrying a FN SCAR-L, Glock 17, iPhone 4...

And driving around in a DMC Delorean. How else would I have gone back in time to WWII?

:shifty:

Who am I kidding, I don't even have any of those things in the present.

^^ Best answer! LOL

Could you imagine showing up out of now where w/ a couple 20mm Mini Guns and a mix of AP & DU rounds (for the tanks) @ the Battle of Bastogne? Would have been EPIC! Mount those bad boys to a couple of Jeeps & go hunting! Tanks would be better. but they didn't show up till after most of the action.

GrinderCB
01-13-2011, 9:11 PM
If you would have had a choice what would you have carried of the available guns if you were in World War 2?

You left the issue pretty wide open with no ground rules as to which side, matching ammo between guns, or pistol/rifle/submachinegun. Here are my choices:

Pistol: Polish Radom 9mm. Based on the 1911, more accurate due to lighter recoil. Preferably the pre-War model made entirely in Poland before the Nazis came. (Something about hauling the parts to Austria for assembly doesn't sit right with me as far as production quality).

Submachinegun: Thompson. Knock-down power combined with full-auto. Great in house-to-house fighting like in Europe, and in the jungles of the Pacific. Plus it's simply cool-looking.

Rifle: M1 Garand. This was the war-winner. Accurate, reliable, and the 30-06 round did its job to the enemy.

If I was carrying multiple weapons based on common ammo, I'd pick a Thompson/1911 combo over the MP44/P38 or the Russian PPSh/Tokarev, going mainly for knock-down power of the .45ACP. The German combo is a bit underpowered for that era's submachineguns IMO, and the Russian PPSh lacked selective fire and was prone to jams, even though the Reds built like a zillion of them to overwhelm the Nazis.

GrinderCB
01-13-2011, 9:22 PM
Next question...what if the Roman Army had SMG's, jeeps and tanks?

How about: What if the ship carrying Kal-El from Krypton came down in Nazi Germany instead of America?

Colt-45
01-21-2011, 1:25 AM
BAR. But I would have invented a 30 round box mag.
:iagree:

One of these:
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg36/bar1918.jpg
With a pistol grip on it and a double disc 100 round magazine that I would invent.

and one of these:
http://www.wwiiquartermaster.com/images/Airsoft/Colt%201911%20Big.jpg
With a 15 round magazine.

Notice, both are inventions of John Moses Browning.
:43:

Crusader
01-21-2011, 10:55 AM
Depends on the Theater I ended up in. If I were in Europe, I'd have wanted either an M1 Garand or an STG44 and a 1911. If I were in the Pacific, I'd want a PPSH 41 and a 1911.

Mojaveman
01-21-2011, 12:16 PM
What would I have carried in WWII?

On which side?

On our side I would chose the M-1 Garand. The Browning with a basic combat load of ammunition is very heavy. The Thompson is a solid firearm but also heavy and has limited range. The M1 Carbine would be good for close in work but needs more range in the field.

In the Wehrmacht I would have carried a K98k. The STG-44 is an impressive weapon but weighs about 12 pounds not including a basic load of about six full magazines. If I were actually using it in combat I'd probably want at least twice that ammount of ammunition which would be even heavier. Ammunition goes quick in a sustained engagement. ;)

If I were in an armored or mechanized infantry unit on either side and didn't have to walk much I'd go with the heavier weapons but in the light or airborne infantry I'd go with the lighter ones. With a lighter weapon you can carry more ammo.

The Arisaka is a nice rifle too. Banzai!

Mike A
01-21-2011, 12:55 PM
I have noticed that many GIs who had access to the Italian Beretta 1938 SMG had the tendency to grab one; the Germans did that too. Lighter than a Thompson and more accurate; much more reliable than a Sten. There was a well-known Ranger Cpt. who wouldn't carry anything else after he captured one in North Africa.

Lots of Beretta 1934 pistols got carried too, but I suspect that was because they were cute and handy to carry on R&R, not for frontline combat. Lots of them came home at the end of the war, too. (Last Italian production of that gun was in .....1991!)

Of Allied weapons, I'd go with a Browning Hipower and a Garand; both "best of breed". But the M-1 Carbine killed LOTS of people--still does.

MyMalteseFalcon
01-21-2011, 1:04 PM
Hey, good choices on what weaponry to use.

You have forgotten about side arms?

What would you use on either side of the conflict?

Just interested in what you'd pick....

professionalcoyotehunter
01-21-2011, 1:07 PM
Ithaca 37R.

mif_slim
01-21-2011, 1:17 PM
An AR.

:hide:

Lead Waster
01-22-2011, 12:29 AM
9 volt plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

dzhao20
01-22-2011, 4:09 AM
PPSh-41 with drum mag. side arm as german broom handle c-96

Nothing better than a robust Smg that doesn't stop for anything, and a pistol that handles like a mad dog on a leash.