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TNP'R
01-04-2011, 7:37 PM
I was thinking about polishing off the bluing on one of my mosin nagants barrel or maybe the whole thing.Why? I don't know just thought about it.Good or bad idea?

Mssr. Eleganté
01-04-2011, 7:39 PM
I was thinking about polishing off the bluing on one of my mosin nagants barrel or maybe the whole thing.Why? I don't know just thought about it.Good or bad idea?

That's an awesome idea. Then it will be shiny!!!

SHINY GOOOOD!!!

TNP'R
01-04-2011, 7:44 PM
i polished the trigger and it looks good i might do the mag next or at-least thinking about it.

Noonanda
01-04-2011, 7:48 PM
what are you trying to accomplish. are you wanting a Bling gun like this?
http://www.gwamp.com/images/jeep/stuff/guns/mosin/Mosin1.jpg
hope you got alot of oil to prevent the rust LOL

mauser98k
01-04-2011, 7:49 PM
what are you trying to accomplish. are you wanting a Bling gun like this?
http://www.gwamp.com/images/jeep/stuff/guns/mosin/Mosin1.jpg
hope you got alot of oil to prevent the rust LOL

oh...Ivan is rolling in his unmarked grave somewhere near Kharkov...

TNP'R
01-04-2011, 7:50 PM
what are you trying to accomplish. are you wanting a Bling gun like this?
http://www.gwamp.com/images/jeep/stuff/guns/mosin/Mosin1.jpg
hope you got alot of oil to prevent the rust LOL

Nah I Wasn't wanting a bling gun i just wanted it to be different looking.that Thing looks like it has duracoat on it or something. yeah i was thinkin bout it rusting.

Another question, the bolt is bare and it hasn't rusted is that metal stainless?

Interloper
01-04-2011, 8:03 PM
The bluing is there to prevent rust and to keep it from looking gay.

Another question, the bolt is bare and it hasn't rusted is that metal stainless?
No, just chrome steel. It will rust, just not as quickly as the rest.

Noonanda
01-04-2011, 8:23 PM
yep Mosin bolts rust, Grab your bolt handle with a sweaty hand and then look at it in a week

Milsurp Collector
01-04-2011, 8:58 PM
Classic Arms used to sell chromed Mosins.

http://www.classicarms.us/images/m9130lamchrome.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M44CHEX2.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/MVC-CHLAM2.JPG
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M38CH.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M9130LAMCHROME.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/MVC-CHLAM3.JPG

Noonanda
01-04-2011, 9:02 PM
Classic Arms used to sell chromed Mosins.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

IntoForever
01-04-2011, 9:05 PM
Grab that chromed bad-boy after it's been in the sun for a while! *smells like steak*

TNP'R
01-04-2011, 9:09 PM
they look pretty nice to me, but they are chromed it wont rust for a long time.

DannyInSoCal
01-04-2011, 9:32 PM
Classic Arms used to sell chromed Mosins.

http://www.classicarms.us/images/m9130lamchrome.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M44CHEX2.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/MVC-CHLAM2.JPG
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M38CH.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/M9130LAMCHROME.jpg
http://www.classicarms.us/images/MVC-CHLAM3.JPG

I think look kool either way...

Anchors
01-05-2011, 1:45 AM
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

+1

Hit up a barreled action or previously bubba'd up mosin if you must polish it up.


And yes, the bolt can rust. I had a bolt handle rust on me because I didn't know you shouldn't keep guns in a plano case in the closet (this is before I got a safe/dehumidifier)

mls343
01-05-2011, 3:59 AM
Just my opinion, but no.

jms
01-05-2011, 5:20 AM
End result would be just like one of Noonanda's signature. Just my opinion

geeknow
01-05-2011, 5:29 AM
conflicted. I like shiny, but think it a touch sacreligious.

TNP'R
01-05-2011, 11:54 AM
conflicted. I like shiny, but think it a touch sacreligious.

meh,its only taking the bluing off. its not like doing what bobula did or that other guy on youtube did with his rifle.

NYY
01-05-2011, 5:18 PM
1,2,3... doooo ittttttt. WHY NOT? its just a mosin ;)

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 5:19 PM
you might as well hard crome it then. If you were trying to make it look like a battlefield pick up that is one thing, but from the sounds of it you want a "Bling" gun. :puke:

:ack2:
But its your gun, do with it what you want.:sarcasm:

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 5:22 PM
1,2,3... doooo ittttttt. WHY NOT? its just a mosin ;)

So would you want him to do that to a M-1 Garand or 1903 Springfield? I mean using your logic "it is just a Garand", "it is just a Springfield":rolleyes:

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 5:29 PM
I think look kool either way...

They sell that one as a package deal with the Ghey-K-47

NYY
01-05-2011, 5:32 PM
So would you want him to do that to a M-1 Garand or 1903 Springfield? I mean using your logic "it is just a Garand", "it is just a Springfield":rolleyes:

No sir. Mosins are mosins. everyone knows that. Springfields and Garands get more respect and are more valuable/cherished.. correct?

Interloper
01-05-2011, 5:33 PM
You could accomplish the same thing with Krylon metallic paint without losing the rust protection.;)

Interloper
01-05-2011, 5:35 PM
No sir. Mosins are mosins. everyone knows that. Springfields and Garands get more respect and are more valuable/cherished.. correct?

:troll:

mauser98k
01-05-2011, 5:40 PM
1,2,3... doooo ittttttt. WHY NOT? its just a mosin ;)

nyet, comrade. it's an historic combat rifle worthy of better treatment than sporterizing and bubba's touch.

NYY
01-05-2011, 5:43 PM
I guess my "drift" came and flew away long time ago... I was referring to the whole "eh its just a Mosin" type of thinking... To be honest, Im 6 days from picking mine up at big 5 :D

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 5:49 PM
No sir. Mosins are mosins. everyone knows that. Springfields and Garands get more respect and are more valuable/cherished.. correct?

What is your logic for that, its just a gun that was used in a war, millions were made. You can buy em at any gunshow, or online?
Explain to us why a Garand deserves more respect that a Mosin Nagant. The Mosin Nagant has a longer service history, has fought in more wars, and is still in service in both actual militaries and also in the hands of Insurgents. What military is still actively issuing M-1 Garands? You also know that This was a weapon issued to US troops at one time and was also Made by Remington.

Let me guess, cause they are cheap right now and can be bought for under $100. For you older members, how much did matching K-98's and Springfield go for from clines or any of the other surplus dealers?? How much do they go for now?

So what argument do you have. Please enlighten us, as well as we are still waiting for you to explain the ballistics of 7.62x54 to "all us un-collemege edjumacated types" because we know nothing.

We always tell people, do with as you please, its your gun. but when you get laughed at at the range and then list it on gunbroker for $200 where it relists to infinity, well we tried to tell you.

But again its your gun, what do I know

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 5:51 PM
and If I come across harsh it is not intended, but we see these same posts EVERY Week. We see them like people ask about "Magazine parts kits legality" in Centerfire forums or "which is better, a 1911 or a glock?" in handguns.

NYY
01-05-2011, 6:01 PM
"What is your logic for that, its just a gun that was used in a war, millions were made."

My logic comes from a majority of people here on CalGuns making that "joke about a Mosin is a mosin.. a cheap PLINKER"... I bought a Mosin 5 days ago for 2 reasons- 1) I want to be able to actually hold a rifle that was so significant that Germans would drop their Mausers in the dirt and take the "dead guys" Mosin because of its accuracy during WW1/2...and 2) I always love a good shoulder bruiser

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 6:14 PM
Well the problem is the same logic was used back in the 50's and 60's with Mausers, Springfields, ETC ETC. Just because a rifle is inexpensive does not mean it doesnt have value. Does that idea on calguns used by some make this logic correct? Wanna buy an all matching un messed with k-98 nowdays, got $500-600 at the low end? same with Springfield 03's??

Historically the Mosin was more important to the winning of the war than the Garand due to the fact that the Russians killed more Germans than the rest of the allies combined. I am an Eastern front history nut, The fighting there made the western front look like a fistfight between children.
Not taking anything away from the Vets who fought on the western front, both my grandfathers both fought the germans in the US Army. But the eastern front was a no holds barred slugfest that made the western front seem civilized. Comparison of the eastern front fighting is like comparing the savagery of the island hopping campaign with Marines fighting against the Japanese.

ElvenSoul
01-05-2011, 6:21 PM
Chrome! Gold plate that sucker!

NYY
01-05-2011, 6:32 PM
So to correct my comment then.... "1,2,3, dooo ittttttt..... MOSINS be BOSSIN'"

TNP'R
01-05-2011, 6:33 PM
I guess i'll just leave it alone but I may do it in the future.Probably going to order a 1897 mosin off the net in about a month or two so that one will be the one that I keep original and baby it.I have no intention on selling any of my rifles so if they go up in value or down in value it really means nothing to me because i don't buy guns for investment.I buy them for my enjoyment.

Milsurp Collector
01-05-2011, 6:37 PM
Wanna buy an all matching un messed with k-98 nowadays, got $500-600 at the low end?


Based on recent sale prices on Gunbroker, you forgot to put a 1 in front of those numbers. ;)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195740344
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=196024426
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=207651754
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=197589058
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=195482392
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=196593738

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 6:37 PM
I guess i'll just leave it alone but I may do it in the future.Probably going to order a 1897 mosin off the net in about a month or two so that one will be the one that I keep original and baby it.I have no intention on selling any of my rifles so if they go up in value or down in value it really means nothing to me because i don't buy guns for investment.I buy them for my enjoyment.

I have heard many people say the same thing many time, "I will never sell it". But we always see them on gunbroker, remember the seller of this gun was also given "an opinion on an idea" and look what happened LOL. Doubt me? search for "sporterized" in gunbroker, enough to make you wanna cry LOL
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/209496000/209496750/pix206406862.jpg
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/209496000/209496750/pix176716216.jpg
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/209496000/209496750/pix636367541.jpg
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/209496000/209496750/pix229762666.jpg

TNP'R
01-05-2011, 6:39 PM
I have heard many people say the same thing many time, "I will never sell it". But we always see them on gunbroker, remember this person was also given an opinion on an idea and look waht happened LOL
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/209496000/209496750/pix206406862.jpg

lol Well I mean what I say. I never got into the gun hobby to sale guns.Before I even began the hobby I told myself I would never sale any of my guns once I got them.I want to horde as many guns as I can no matter if they are ugly or no good.I want lots of guns.I contribute that thinking to a guy I used to know back in Tennessee.He had a hand gun under every table it seemed like and also had a hefty collection of ww2 machine guns.He also had his own range like hickok45 does.

Noonanda
01-05-2011, 6:59 PM
thats cool man, some of us are just trying to explain that just because it is cheap and or inexpensive doesnt mean it doesnt have value. Can anyone here put a price on history?

It is your gun to do with as you please, you may not like the results. you may also think it is the best thing since sliced bread. again it is yours to do with as you please.

I dont hate sporterizers with a passion like some may think. I have gone down that rabbit hole as well. But it was always with a non-matching parts gun that no one else wanted. Something whose historic value had been greatly diminished by neglect, age, whatever. I also have brought them back from the junk pile.

here is what was once a barrelled action. The correct stock for it would cost more than the barrelled reciever. only parts that match were the barrelled reciever and bolt. I took this and turned it into something shootable.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs734.ash1/162806_1710032438065_1455744538_1747398_1825375_n. jpg

a few days ago I added a semi-correct style scope/mount (closest you can come for under 600-1000 dollars), and will see how accurate it is this configuration. I have invested $300 in the scope and mount.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1355.snc4/162717_1746205982381_1455744538_1834467_4424754_n. jpg


I haven had a chance to test the scope yet, but if it shoots half as good with a scope as it does with iron sights I am gonna be doing some long range shooting with it. This is the closest I will even be to owning a TVIK-85 Finnish sniper rifle

TNP'R
01-05-2011, 7:10 PM
thats cool man, some of us are just trying to explain that just because it is cheap and or inexpensive doesnt mean it doesnt have value. Can anyone here put a price on history?

It is your gun to do with as you please, you may not like the results. you may also think it is the best thing since sliced bread. again it is yours to do with as you please.

I dont hate sporterizers with a passion like some may think. I have gone down that rabbit hole as well. But it was always with a non-matching parts gun that no one else wanted. Something whose historic value had been greatly diminished by neglect, age, whatever. I also have brought them back from the junk pile.

here is what was once a barrelled action. The correct stock for it would cost more than the barrelled reciever. only parts that match were the barrelled reciever and bolt. I took this and turned it into something shootable.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs734.ash1/162806_1710032438065_1455744538_1747398_1825375_n. jpg

a few days ago I added a semi-correct style scope/mount (closest you can come for under 600-1000 dollars), and will see how accurate it is this configuration. I have invested $300 in the scope and mount.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1355.snc4/162717_1746205982381_1455744538_1834467_4424754_n. jpg


I haven had a chance to test the scope yet, but if it shoots half as good with a scope as it does with iron sights I am gonna be doing some long range shooting with it. This is the closest I will even be to owning a TVIK-85 Finnish sniper rifle
I dont see a problem with sportizing a mosin as long as you buy a different stock for it and not ruin the orginal.Also as long as you don't cut the barrel or anything.Because you can always go back and but the orginal stock back on the mosin if you wanted to.

That may sound hypocritical but taking the bluing off vs's cutting down the barrel or cutting the stock IMO is two totally different things.I mean you could always go back and reblue the barrel if you wanted to.

DannyInSoCal
01-05-2011, 7:15 PM
Whether its chopping up and old Indian motorcycle or coverting a Mosin to a Monte Carlo stock - There are always people on both sides of the project.

I bought an M44 to leave stock and a 91/30 to convert.

BFD - Two screws and it's back to how I bought it...

Bigtwin
01-05-2011, 7:42 PM
Can anyone here put a price on history?



Yes! About $99 bucks from Big 5!

samspade77
01-11-2011, 6:41 PM
I would do what you want to do. Don't worry about other peoples opinions. If you polish off the bluing, just keep it well oiled to prevent it from rusting. I say "go for it" and don't give a ***** what anyone thinks.

Twoodland
01-12-2011, 9:49 AM
I would do what you want to do. Don't worry about other peoples opinions. If you polish off the bluing, just keep it well oiled to prevent it from rusting. I say "go for it" and don't give a ***** what anyone thinks.

I agree 100% do what YOU want. I have learned that whether it be cars, trucks, motorcycles, guns or chicken wings. People will want you to do what they would do. but it ain't there choice. it's YOUR gun. and you should do what YOU want to it.

I am one of those who does not care about the "market value" or my gun. And i do NOT plan on selling any of my Guns. My guns have personal and intrinsic value and I am not a collector who obsesses over matching parts or anything like that. I have never been like that, with cars bikes or anything else. Value a personal thing to me, not something determined by someone else using a set of rules that i find arbitrary. I however do respect relics and pieces of history without a doubt.

I would imagine that people customize or "sporterize" rifles because it's what they like and what they wanna do and what will potential make their rifle more fun for them.. Doing something in order to increase value in the eyes of someone else ain't my style. I frankly would not care if it decreases the value for someone else. if it increases it's value to you, then go for it.

Btw, the sporterized Nagant posted earlier in this thread is gross. The one with the front of the original cut off. i am not much for the second one but the first aint legit lol. made my stomach turn! lol. the chrome and silver nagants are nasty too.

Volksgrenadier
01-12-2011, 10:41 AM
The bluing is there to prevent rust and to keep it from looking gay.



100% unadulterated WIN!

rojocorsa
01-13-2011, 11:43 AM
I'm still laughing at the Ghey-K-47 comment.