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bongfoo
01-01-2011, 9:56 PM
hello all,

i'm asking for a little help. i'm trying to decide what the next caliber i will be purchasing for a handgun. i've already owned a .45, but i'm not ruling that out. i guess i'm trying to decide between a .40 S&W or a 10 mm.... what do you guys think?
i'm primarily trying to decide now so i can start gathering some reloading supplies.
thanks in advanced!
jerry

wellfedirishman
01-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Do you reload? 10mm is expensive to buy, and hard to find. If you reload that is not a problem though.

If you don't have a 22 pistol, or a 22 conversion kit for an existing pistol, I'd recommend getting that first. Lots of cheap practice.

bongfoo
01-01-2011, 10:02 PM
i've got a S&W 22S target pistol and a ruger MKIII 22/45. just looking to get a new pistol and i'm gonna try and pick up a little bulk ammo b4 the new law takes effect.

erik_26
01-01-2011, 10:14 PM
I just got the stink eye from my ol' lady for buying my new Sig P220. So it will be a while before I get to buy another gun.

When the time comes, I am thinking either a .44 magnum or a .40 S&W.

Leaning more towards the .44 magnum.

shooting4life
01-01-2011, 10:15 PM
357 mag, oh wait. I have one for sale in my signature. Imagine that.

INJUNTOM
01-01-2011, 10:17 PM
.40 seems to be more plentiful..

bongfoo
01-01-2011, 10:19 PM
357 mag, oh wait. I have one for sale in my signature. Imagine that.

own one. S&W 686-6 but thanks anyways. :)

den888
01-01-2011, 10:31 PM
Get a .40, easier to get ammo for this caliber.

Echidin
01-01-2011, 10:33 PM
I wouldn't recommend .45 ACP, it's really a round for "girlie-men". You're not a girlie-man, are you?























































Besides, if you go .45 then there will be less for me. :D

Vanilla Gorilla
01-01-2011, 10:44 PM
go with the .45 cant go wrong with a .45 i dont like 10mm too much recoil for me also i dont like the .40 too little stopping power and too much recoil for the amount of stopping power you get the .45 for me seems to have the right combo of both

Colt-45
01-01-2011, 10:52 PM
Op, go with a 45 or a 40. Ammunition is very easy to find, 10mm not so much.

bsg
01-01-2011, 11:01 PM
my favorite semi auto handgun rounds are 9mm and .45 ACP.

MA2
01-01-2011, 11:06 PM
Not too much handgun choices for the 10mm, maybe something to consider with that round.

Are the .45 a little more forgiving/easier to reload?
I would chose the .45 for that and plus most 1911's are .45's :)

PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE
01-01-2011, 11:09 PM
So many variables from ultimate accuracy to general plinking fun at the range. You could go with an ultra accurate (and spendy) 1911 Nighthawk .45 or a daily shooter in a Glock .40 cal. Depends on your budget and your plans, but you can't go wrong with any of the rounds, sometimes you just gotta try them out for yourself. The 10mm is a snappy round, but some like it, I have 2 (Glock 20C & Colt Delta Elite). Go to your local gun range, rent them, and try them out for yourself, that's the beauty of renting before you buy.

hkfooey
01-01-2011, 11:53 PM
+1 on the .45...

sevensix2x51
01-02-2011, 12:11 AM
the .40 and 10mm share reloading dies, projectiles and powder. so dont feel like you only have to pick one. you can get both chamberings, and simply adjust your dies to load for each cartridge. the only real difference is the amount of powder loaded and the primer (small pistol for .40 sw and large pistol for 10mm) so just get a pistol you like and have some fun!

1911Luvr
01-02-2011, 12:26 AM
I think everyone needs a 10mm Delta Elite!

forgiven
01-02-2011, 12:27 AM
Most likely a Sig P226 or a Glock 22.

hybridatsun350
01-02-2011, 12:37 AM
There's nothing wrong with sticking to one pistol caliber. It makes sense in more ways than one!

1911Operator
01-02-2011, 12:58 AM
I stick to 45's, reload in bulk and save big $$$'s!

Fishslayer
01-02-2011, 3:23 AM
You say "owned' as in past tense.

I say .45ACP. Crap ton of load data available. Brass is free to dirt cheap, available loading components. Easy to reload.

Buy an obscure caliber like 10mm when the basics are covered, and basics include a .45ACP.

Everyone should own a 1911 in .45 and a .357 wheelgun. That's just the way it is. ;)

.40? Umm... whatever...

locosway
01-02-2011, 3:33 AM
Wow, talk about some weird responses...

The "stopping power" between a .45 and .40 is negligible if any even exists.

The .40 and 10mm share the same reloading supplies as pointed out. If you were to purchase a Glock 20 you could easily buy different barrels for it (.40, .357sig, 9x25) and have a "multi-tool" of the gun world.

10mm is not that hard to find, and the price difference to me is well worth knowing I have a superior round that trumps the .45 in all respects.

As for recoil, it's no different than anything else if you run the "lite" loads for range duty. The greatness of the 10mm comes in it's versatility. You can run 180gr 1050fps soft loads for range time or limited penetration SD. Or you can step up to some full power or hot rounds and take large game or shoot through just about anything.

I see all the .45 people quote Jeff Cooper, but they fail to realize who helped make the 10mm and for what purpose.

Fishslayer
01-02-2011, 3:56 AM
10mm is not that hard to find, and the price difference to me is well worth knowing I have a superior round that trumps the .45 in all respects.

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Everybody & his dog makes a .45, you can walk into almost anyplace that sells ammo & find .45ACP.

10mm is an obscure caliber and always will be. Not a lot of guns made for it and they're usually pretty pricey.

But you are just so incredibly awesome I'm sure that's not a problem...:rolleyes:

locosway
01-02-2011, 3:59 AM
The OP said he's going to reload, and I've had no issues finding 10mm ammo locally for a reasonable price. In fact, when everyone is out of 9mm, .40, and .45, I can usually find a few places that have 10mm in stock because not many people shoot it.

My 10mm gun was a whopping $600 out the door with taxes and all that jazz, so I guess I can see how they're more expensive than say a 1911, HK, or some other handgun that isn't a 10mm.

Also, I'm not particularly awesome myself, but my 10mm is... :)

Fishslayer
01-02-2011, 4:30 AM
My 10mm gun was a whopping $600 out the door with taxes and all that jazz, .

Give ya $650 :D


Also, I'm not particularly awesome myself, but my 10mm is... :)

A 10mm wheelgun + moonclips. THAT would be awesome...

Friend of mine has a 10mm 1911 type. The spring on that thing...:eek: It's his favorite handgun tho...

locosway
01-02-2011, 4:32 AM
I'll never sell my Glock 20... It was my first Glock and my first 10mm. Since then it's accompanied me through a few tactical shoots, lots of range time, and she sleeps so nicely next to me.

The spring on the 10mm guns are wicked. I had to get an extended slide catch because the stock Glock catch just wouldn't release properly.

a.tinkerer
01-02-2011, 9:48 AM
.45 is great!
There's such a huge selection of bullet moulds and factory bullets in a broad range of weights and types.


For hotter-than-.45acp, I've set up with a .460 rowland kit.
My 230gr load has more retained energy at 200yds than .45 has at the muzzle.
It's accurate too.

I use it around the ranch on coyote (or whatever!) where 100 yard shots are pretty much commonplace with the .45 or the .44mag

I handload pretty much everything except for rimfire and cheap flats of shotgun ammunition.




Cheers
Tinker

shinbone
01-02-2011, 9:58 AM
Well, one thing you'll notice if you reload for an obscure caliber semi auto- you'll be OCD about keeping every bit of brass you fire. I shoot and reload 357sig and brass hoarding is my disease. 45 is common so it'll let you breath easier knowing you can find brass easily.

a.tinkerer
01-02-2011, 10:04 AM
Double plus what shinbone said.


Well, one thing you'll notice if you reload for an obscure caliber semi auto- you'll be OCD about keeping every bit of brass you fire. I shoot and reload 357sig and brass hoarding is my disease. 45 is common so it'll let you breath easier knowing you can find brass easily.



When I shoot the rowland, I'm super vigilant about picking up my brass.
With the .45 it just doesn't much matter (and that's a good thing)






Cheers
Tinker

Retzius
01-02-2011, 10:05 AM
.380

locosway
01-02-2011, 10:41 AM
.45 is great!
There's such a huge selection of bullet moulds and factory bullets in a broad range of weights and types.


For hotter-than-.45acp, I've set up with a .460 rowland kit.
My 230gr load has more retained energy at 200yds than .45 has at the muzzle.
It's accurate too.

I use it around the ranch on coyote (or whatever!) where 100 yard shots are pretty much commonplace with the .45 or the .44mag

I handload pretty much everything except for rimfire and cheap flats of shotgun ammunition.




Cheers
Tinker

I just carry my 10mm... :)

a.tinkerer
01-02-2011, 12:27 PM
Yup


I just carry my 10mm... :)



And I sometimes carry a .22, sometimes a SW500, often carry a rifle.

I really like the .45 though.








Cheers
Tinker

JanG
01-02-2011, 12:30 PM
38 super :D

Beretta Henry
01-02-2011, 12:34 PM
Everyone should have a revolver, .357 or .44, high capcity, 9mm or .40, and thumper, .45 or 10mm in my case. The revolver with a four inch barrel can hit target of 50 to 100 yards. The 9 mm or .40 for extreme situations or IPSC. The thumper for anything not covered above.:-)

Uriah02
01-02-2011, 1:25 PM
If you reload why not go for the 10mm?

762.DEFENSE
01-02-2011, 1:25 PM
No option for .50 Beowulf? :(

762.DEFENSE
01-02-2011, 1:26 PM
I'd personally go with 10mm. 10mm is a beast round and I love it!

cineski
01-02-2011, 1:51 PM
When you shoot a 10mm you're smiling really big and everyone at the range is turning to see what that big noise is. Ammo is not that hard to find, not really any harder than 45. Heck, I've seen more 10mm ball ammo than any 45 in the stores. Since you're reloading you'll have even more fun since 10mm is one of the most diverse, if not most diverse semi-auto rounds around.

jptopz
01-02-2011, 2:17 PM
If you into reloading than you can get all the left over brass at range. So many people have 40s and don't reload. Other wise I would stick with 45. I have traded or sold most of my other calibers to run mostly 45 so that I only have to buy one.

vicb909
01-02-2011, 3:09 PM
I say 10mm and if u can find it in a 1911 even better I love my colt delta elite and everyone that shoots it does as well.

resident-shooter
01-02-2011, 3:18 PM
.25 ACP y0 !

sequoia_nomad
01-02-2011, 3:44 PM
Get a Glock 20 and an aftermarket barrel in .40. Two calibers, one gun.

lepcur
01-02-2011, 4:09 PM
hello all,

i'm asking for a little help. i'm trying to decide what the next caliber i will be purchasing for a handgun. i've already owned a .45, but i'm not ruling that out. i guess i'm trying to decide between a .40 S&W or a 10 mm.... what do you guys think?
i'm primarily trying to decide now so i can start gathering some reloading supplies.
thanks in advanced!
jerry

If it's between the 40 and the 10mm why go with the lesser of the 2 when ya can get the mac daddy, I have a delta elite and love it.

frank8097
01-02-2011, 6:08 PM
If its for self defence I'd go with the 10mm hands down.

oddjob
01-02-2011, 6:42 PM
I voted for the .40. I reload and .40 brass is cheaper or even free. The bullets are cheaper than the .45. People are correct about the 10mm and the .40 bullets being the same price. A problem with the 10mm is finding brass at a decent price. I can't remember when the last time you could buy at least a thousand for a decent price. I shoot USPSA and today I know of no one that uses it. I'm sure someone does, but I don't know of any.

My son and I use the .40 for USPSA so I go through a lot of .40 ammo. After doing the homework its cheaper. I buy bullets 10-15k at a time and it adds up fast. I have a friend who has a 10mm Delta Elite. He converted it to .40 for money reasons.

Search the internet and your local areas and price components. I think you will find I'm right. As far as self-defense type ammo if you have some police friends you may be able to snag a box of .40 from them.

good luck!!

$nake-Eye$
01-02-2011, 8:48 PM
I feel you, brother. Just got the stink eye from my old lady for buying my XDm45... :kest:

I just got the stink eye from my ol' lady for buying my new Sig P220. So it will be a while before I get to buy another gun.

When the time comes, I am thinking either a .44 magnum or a .40 S&W.

Leaning more towards the .44 magnum.

jackandblood
01-03-2011, 9:17 AM
Well it sounds like you are comfortable with high power stuff. Id say go 10mm. If you're shooting for fun then well, i think you'd enjoy a more challenging round, .40 sw would be kinda going backwards.

CSACANNONEER
01-03-2011, 9:22 AM
How about just going old school and getting a 32-20? Or, go OLD school and get a 7.5 Nagant (not the common 1895 Russian Nagant but an older model)?

Audi5000
01-03-2011, 10:46 AM
My father has/had all the calibers listed, and we both agree the 10mm is far and away superior to all. The .45 is not nearly as flat shooting, nor as inherently accurate, but if you're using it primarily for targets and self defense, probably the way to go.

On the other hand, 10mm can be loaded to .357 mag power levels and become a viable hunting piece (deer, pig, etc). It all depends upon what you're doing, and especially whether or not you reload. I'd say go .45 if you don't load, otherwise you'll be at the whim of what the gun store carries in ten (probably a dusty box of blazers from the Regan era for top dollar).

Interestingly, the only caliber of the aforementioned my pops owns now is the .45, because his eyes are getting bad and the sights on the 45 are the only ones he could see. Wish he told me before he sold the ten! That thing was fun to shoot and then some!

Fishslayer
01-03-2011, 2:01 PM
I'll never sell my Glock 20... .

Oh... a Glock... ummm... that $650? Ummm... well... never mind...:D

I was thinkin' more along the lines of a S&W 1006...if I could find one of THOSE for $600 I just might have to try that .40 Magnum Kool Ade...;)