If the CA AW ban ended today... [Archive]

andrei

08-02-2006, 09:46 AM

What would be your first purchase? Tough to decide, soo many choices. I think I would have to go with either a mini uzi or a vector V53.
I have a news for you, I have buy my V53 from Atlantic firearms in June.
It is ligal to buy in kalifornia, only to attache 10 rounder.
Only problem to found 10 round magazine,

andrei

08-02-2006, 09:52 AM

mini uzi, bobcat clone...
Bobcat ligal in kalifornia to have,I have one from Atlantic firearms and
10 rounds mag from bobcat,
Stop driming, start buing!

VeryCoolCat

08-02-2006, 09:54 AM

Well First, I would buy an VEPR in .308 or a Saiga .308 24" (a cheap reliable, sporting, semi automatic scopable rifle) or Maybe a Feather RAV-9MM.

Either that or I would save up and buy a FS2000.

I have a news for you, I have buy my V53 from Atlantic firearms in June.
It is ligal to buy in kalifornia, only to attache 10 rounder.
Only problem to found 10 round magazine,

No its not it is not legal. You would have to remove the pistol grip or pin the magazine.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/gbimages/VECTORV53NEW.jpg

Maybe this guy andrei is that SKS board "HACKER" a mod oughta reverse his IP.

andrei

08-02-2006, 09:54 AM

I'll play: ditto what Gose said. ;)

I'd probably get a semi AK-74 next if there is one.
You can make one mach chiper and ligal.

andrei

08-02-2006, 09:57 AM

Well First, I would buy an VEPR in .308 or a Saiga .308 24" (a cheap reliable, sporting, semi automatic scopable rifle) or Maybe a Feather RAV-9MM.

Either that or I would save up and buy a FS2000.

No its not it is not legal. You would have to remove the pistol grip or pin the magazine.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/gbimages/VECTORV53NEW.jpg

Maybe this guy andrei is that SKS board "HACKER" a mod oughta reverse his IP.
Yes, I did attache magazine! and now rifel is ligal.

NRAhighpowershooter

08-02-2006, 10:02 AM

I would conver ALL on OLL's from fixed to detachable mags!!!!!!!!

Stanze

08-02-2006, 10:08 AM

Hmmm....I've owned and or shot in "Free America" standard cap mag configuration AKs, ARs, UZIs, SP-89s, KG(Tec)-9s, folding stock Mini-14s etc., even Class III weapons under dealer supervision so I know what I'm missing; and it's the stuff eating grin of mag dumping and fast reloads to mag dump again as well as the high ammo bill.

But, if CA became free again and I had the money, I'd want a AR-10 for the precision reach out and touch something factor, a HK-94 or SP-89 because it's sexy like a MP-5 and a Barrett M82A1.:eek:

Ooh, and a Thompson Tommy Gun!:cool:

andrei

08-02-2006, 10:10 AM

Well First, I would buy an VEPR in .308 or a Saiga .308 24" (a cheap reliable, sporting, semi automatic scopable rifle) or Maybe a Feather RAV-9MM.

Either that or I would save up and buy a FS2000.

No its not it is not legal. You would have to remove the pistol grip or pin the magazine.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/gbimages/VECTORV53NEW.jpg

Maybe this guy andrei is that SKS board "HACKER" a mod oughta reverse his IP.
You can call me a "HACKER" but I have ligal config. rifels,and you are not,only dreams.Have a nice dreams my friend.
And if you have a questions, you cane ask nice.

PanzerAce

08-02-2006, 10:18 AM

You can call me a "HACKER" but I have ligal config. rifels,and you are not,only dreams.Have a nice dreams my friend.
And if you have a questions, you cane ask nice.

calm down, it was a joke in reference to a recent attack on another gun forum and your seemingly poor english skills.

As for what I would buy first: nothing. Thats right, nothing, because i would not have to cram it in. I would just build my NDS and two STAGs and leave it at that......for maybe a day :D. Then I would go and buy a PSL, HK91, HK94 (from a LEO friend that doesnt use his any more), and then a FAL....

and a .50 BMG upper for my Stag....

of course, I couldnt get the 944 Turbo Im looking at then, cause I wouldnt have enough room to get that stuff to the range.....:cool:

chickenfried

08-02-2006, 10:21 AM

A flash hider for my M1A. I'm tired of my position always being given away.

PanzerAce

08-02-2006, 10:26 AM

A flash hider for my M1A. I'm tired of my position always being given away.

winnar!

(10 characters, blah blah blah blah, you know the rest)

CWM4A1

08-02-2006, 10:45 AM

Couple more AR receivers for retro built
Couple Arsenal AKs
FAL
Couple AR-10, try to do precision built out of them

That should satisfy me for a while.

rod

08-02-2006, 11:21 AM

I would probably refinance my house and buy everything that was previously banned. Maybe two of each and hundreds of hi-cap mags. I would do this as fast as I could because I would expect the ban to last as long as it takes them to make a new ban with EVERYTHING on it.

bootcamp

08-02-2006, 11:23 AM

M60, Lite .50, psg, gatling, mp5, sp89, m16

thmpr

08-02-2006, 11:37 AM

Buy 2-3 AR10 platforms.........(DPMS,KAC and Amalite-SASS)

DANGERCLOSE

08-02-2006, 12:17 PM

i would definately go broke, that's for sure. i would have to wear my vest at home, cause the chain of command would at least try to kill me. anyways here goes.

benneli m4 with collapsible stock
ak105 legal variant (16")
krinkov type carbine
bobcat mp-5, mp-5's are fun to shoot
mk-11 ar-10 type rifle
fn ps90 with the 50 rounders
an ar15 pistol in 5.56 and 9mm
ar15 9mm
:cool:

bwiese

08-02-2006, 12:20 PM

I am still kicking myself for not buying 10 HK SP89s in 1990. They were only $800 then.

They're $3300 now.

furryrabbit

08-02-2006, 12:26 PM

1) 99 cent pistol grip
2) Two or more AR15 magazines

Thats my first buy, evil, evil, piece of plastic. Three of them. Then an uzi just because.

ivanimal

08-02-2006, 12:35 PM

P-90
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://xb7.xanga.com/b6d851542103114533617/b10415482.jpg

nosewitdot

08-02-2006, 12:41 PM

i'd want a SPAS 12

VeryCoolCat

08-02-2006, 12:49 PM

P-90
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://xb7.xanga.com/b6d851542103114533617/b10415482.jpg

Don't you mean PS90? Because if ca laws dropped, we'd still have to obey federal laws.

grammaton76

08-02-2006, 01:20 PM

Don't you mean PS90? Because if ca laws dropped, we'd still have to obey federal laws.

...yes, and if you get an SBR stamp, you could have it in its SBR config. :)

I would personally unpin all my pinned mags, attach some grips, then pick up:

1. Mateba Revolver (if handgun drop tests also ceased to be an issue)
2. P-90
3. An AR-10 if the MGI lowers aren't in by then.
4. Bushmaster M-17S (neat bullpup that takes AR mags)
5. Saiga 12ga shotgun
6. Some kind of 50BMG. I probably wouldn't bother with it in an AR upper form factor though.

Pulsar

08-02-2006, 01:24 PM

1. Saiga 12 gauge (then go kill some clay's)
2. Lot's and lot's of belts for belt fed guns.
3. Belt fed guns, preferably M249
4. Steyr Aug, or a similar variant.

Evil Gun

08-02-2006, 01:27 PM

Dragonov
AK folder
Auto Ordnance Thompson Sub gun
a few others. Oh, wait a minute. I can buy these guns. I no longer live in the PRK. 'scuse me while I buy these guns. http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/smilielol5.gif

JPglee1

08-02-2006, 01:56 PM

i'd want a SPAS 12

Not after you actual shot it ;) :D

I personally have shot a couple, they DO look cool, but they are an answer to a problem that doesn't really exist.

The dual action system and weight of the gun makes it feel clunky...

If the AW Ban ended tommorow, I'd put my FAL mag release back in and go pickup a milled Bulgarian AK.

I don't really need/want a ton of guns. I have them because they are tools, not to collect them. I really wanna get down to only owning (5) utmost reliable guns

FAL
.223 AK (If we're dreaming, than a 10" Yugo M92 in 223)
Mossberg 500
CZ-52
Glock 17

those are the only (5) I need or want.

J

Neil McCauley

08-02-2006, 02:02 PM

I'd paint the flash hiders on my airsoft guns black. :eek:

nosewitdot

08-02-2006, 02:02 PM

thanks for destroyimg my dreams... haha j/k

chiefcrash

08-02-2006, 02:26 PM

god, if the AW ban was lifted...

i'd REALLY need to win the lottery...

JPglee1

08-02-2006, 02:29 PM

I'd paint the flash hiders on my airsoft guns black. :eek:

I'd paint all the muzzles on my real guns orange ;)

J

Mudvayne540ld

08-02-2006, 02:38 PM

NFA a Striker 12... or Street Sweeper
AK-47 (Poly Tech)
Unpin my AR magazine + buy a C-Mag
Intratec Tec-9
maybe a HK G36
(basically what im saying is I would sell my car) :)

Neil McCauley

08-02-2006, 02:41 PM

I'd paint all the muzzles on my real guns orange ;)

J

You can also paint your rifle a glossy plastic looking black and than silk screen a Made in China logo somewhere on the pistol grip. Than store it in a foam box with yellow 6mm bb's and a colorful loader that looks like a baby bottle. ;)

xrevxoltx

08-02-2006, 02:42 PM

If the AW ban ended today, I'd buy an HK91. I've always wanted one of those.

JPglee1

08-02-2006, 02:43 PM

You can also paint your rifle a glossy plastic looking black and than silk screen a Made in China logo somewhere on the pistol grip. Than store it in a foam box with yellow 6mm bb's and a colorful loader that looks like a baby bottle. ;)

I actually got solicited by a guy in Germany, trying to sell me an illegal-in-the-USA deactivated AK74SU (Krinkov) by shipping it exactly that way.

He emailed me one day, out of the blue, and tells me he can get me deacts for $280US delivered and that he ships them as tho they were Airsoft guns to avoid customs.

I promptly called the BATF and FWD'd the email to them.... I bet tons of people do the same crap.

JP

P.S. A german deact is done by drilling 3 holes in the chamber on the bottom of the barrel, receiver remains intact and useable, thats why its illegal to have one HERE...

Neil McCauley

08-02-2006, 02:44 PM

If the AW ban ended today, I'd buy an HK91. I've always wanted one of those.

Just get a PTR91 from JLD. Chop off the PG and viola'. Use your existing 20-30 rndrs you had before 2000 as a legal quasi forward pistol grip. Oh yah and no collapsable BS @ Flash your boobs hider.

Mudvayne540ld

08-02-2006, 02:45 PM

P.S. A german deact is done by drilling 3 holes in the chamber on the bottom of the barrel, receiver remains intact and useable, thats why its illegal to have one HERE...

*runs to destroy all of the ones I have* =P

Centurion_D

08-02-2006, 02:51 PM

I would like to purchase a FN FS2000 :D

PanzerAce

08-02-2006, 02:56 PM

maybe a HK G36

cant get them in the US legally IIRC.

Pokey

08-02-2006, 02:59 PM

1) 99 cent pistol grip
2) Two or more AR15 magazines

Amen brother!:D

taloft

08-02-2006, 03:00 PM

I couldn't buy anything, because I would be dead from a heart attack, caused by dancing an Irish Jig across my front lawn with an insane grin across my face.:D :D

Seriously, I would purchase all the correct mags for my guns. Then detach and replace all the non-detachable mags. Finish building my black rifle the correct way. If I had money left over, I would purchase everything that I thought they would ban next time.

SemiAutoSam

08-02-2006, 03:07 PM

I think I would have a desire for the state to stop forbidding NFA weapons alot more than their stupid AW & Mag ban.

In all of the many years that people have owned registered NFA Weapons there has been maybe 1 crime done.

This is like since 1934 to now 72 years 1 crime.

california politicans are just mostly democrat gun grabbers the JOO in SF mostly and her prize fighter associate as well.

Pokey

08-02-2006, 03:08 PM

M60, Lite .50, psg, gatling, mp5, sp89, m16
Gatlings are CA legal. A place less than an hour from me builds them and they are BEAUTIFUL!!!! BUUUUT price:
.22 cal - 14,500.00
45/70 - 36,000.00
and those are base prices from about 2 years ago.:eek: :eek:

Shane916

08-02-2006, 03:09 PM

4. Steyr Aug, or a similar variant.

+1 for the Steyr

http://www.steyr-aug.com/blackauginbox.jpg

SemiAutoSam

08-02-2006, 03:11 PM

+1 for the Steyr

http://www.steyr-aug.com/blackauginbox.jpg

Its either being built here now or very soon to be built here.

Pokey

08-02-2006, 03:13 PM

Not after you actual shot it ;) :D

<snip>

I don't really need/want a ton of guns. I have them because they are tools, not to collect them. I really wanna get down to only owning (5) utmost reliable guns

<snip>
those are the only (5) I need or want.

J

BLASPHEMER
(must have at least 1 of each):D :D

anotherone

08-02-2006, 03:25 PM

If the ban even lapsed for just a few days you can count on me maxing out all my credit cards. Chances are if the ban did lapse it would be as a result of legal action and the legislature would work double time to get a new ban. I would buy every rifle I could get my greedy little hands on and invest in a knoxx style safe for my collection :)!

I can actually see the ban eventually being thrown out in the courts years from now after more challanges. The OLL movement certainly took a big bite out of the ban and I'm certain things are only going to keep getting more interesting. Unfortunately the legislature's response to their failed ban will likely be to simply ban semi-auto rifles.

WokMaster1

08-02-2006, 04:30 PM

I'll buy everyone a big BBQ cookout with beer & all...........:D

AKs, Krinks, unnueter all the ARs, one of each of the HK rifles & I guess that's it!

JHC

08-02-2006, 04:45 PM

A Beretta Storm in .45, everyone says that they are ugly but I like them.

Mudvayne540ld

08-02-2006, 05:30 PM

SemiAutoSam

08-02-2006, 06:24 PM

It was on the History channel that only 1 murder in the states has occured with an MG since 34'.... and it was commited by a police officer.

And ya know what the politicians from calif would say.

and the reason is because we dont allow NFA weapons here.

JPglee1

08-02-2006, 06:32 PM

It was on the History channel that only 1 murder in the states has occured with an MG since 34'.... and it was commited by a police officer.

There's actually been (2) committed with LEGAL machine guns.

both in Ohio oddly enough.

1 was the LEO w/the Mac-11 (what an idiot...kill a witness with your own, registered gun, and a MG on top of that... )

1 was an asian plastic sturgeon, also I believe, with a Mac series gun.

But yah, its been all of (2) in the last 70 yrs.

Look at the gun confiscation info for guns taken during investigations of crimes, etc in the bigger cities like Detroit and Chicago, NYC, Miami...etc, usually for a whole year they'll get something around 1500 guns or so, with about 900 of them being pistols, 300 being shotties, 200 being rifles and usually NO machine guns, or maybe 3-4 for a whole entire year. MGs are so less common that most people realize.

J

donger

08-02-2006, 06:59 PM

Cool thread.

AR-10 and SR-25
Hk MP-5, MP 5/10
Hk UMP 45
Hk G36
Sig 550
AK-47 (or a PKM? hmm)
FAL's (at least 2 or 3)

Did I just wet myself?

Charliegone

08-02-2006, 07:18 PM

I would get a PSG-1!

The Soup Nazi

08-02-2006, 07:26 PM

They actually import them here and you're willing to spend 5 digits on one?

M. Sage

08-02-2006, 07:30 PM

First purchase?

It would be some 15- and 30-round mags for my M1 Carbine. :D

Paul1960

08-02-2006, 07:34 PM

I would sent a pre-arranged coded message to a public forum and have three people fed-ex me a bunch of my toys.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/paul1960/Misc/Jokeapology.jpg

HkUSP45

08-02-2006, 08:39 PM

i'll pick up
MP5SD
Tactical with a can
can for my OLL rifle

ivanimal

08-02-2006, 08:41 PM

Don't you mean PS90? Because if ca laws dropped, we'd still have to obey federal laws.

Yeah I meant the ps but my fingers have a mind of thier own:D

JPglee1

08-02-2006, 08:43 PM

I love the SD... Very fun, Ive shot 3 or 4 of them in my day...

Cans on rifles don't make a whole lotta sense to me, except for a tactical situation, or to save your hearing.

The supersonic crack is still VERY easy to hear. The 1 advantage is someone listening "hears" the sound approx 90* off from where its really coming from, making it hard to locate the sniper audibly.

J

Hopi

08-02-2006, 08:47 PM

http://www.hkpro.com/hk417.jpg

No pinned mags, just pistol grip, removable 30 round mags, and pure sexy HK shooting .308 as fast as my finger can work......

Maddog5150

08-02-2006, 08:50 PM

I would wake up from my dream and continue fighting zombies since lets face it, thats more likely to happen than the rpk's eeeeeeeevil black weapons ban going away.

jerryg1776

08-02-2006, 08:57 PM

Well since we all know its a pipe dream that Ca will never drop the AW laws and all the other stupid things... I will dream big!!!

I would buy life size living breathing Jessica Alba AW holder so I would have a place to keep my gun,... err I mean weapons safe and warm!!

www.ecranlarge.com/news-cinema-279.php

Charliegone

08-02-2006, 10:08 PM

They actually import them here and you're willing to spend 5 digits on one?

For a real PSG I would.:D

CleverName

08-03-2006, 12:26 AM

If the ban ended today, I'd be close to broke by tomorrow (I turned 18 post-ban so I'm missing out on all the fun stuff).

xenophobe

08-03-2006, 12:43 AM

A real SIG, meaning 550, 551 or 552. (The 556 is not a SIG, its an abomination ;))

+1 I would sell much of my collection to upgrade to a Sig 550/551/552.

Dragunov SVD.

And you'd probably be able to buy mine.

S&W Model 76 subgun clone (semiauto)

Those aren't really that great, but like my S&W AR, it's a neat little oddity. But they are C&R and have short barrels don't they? Or am I thinking of the Beretta 38? *shrug*

I would also want:
FN FS2000
PS90
RPD semi

dragonbait1a

08-03-2006, 10:02 AM

Many (6+) 33round Glock mags
More 17rnd Glock mags (My father left a few before the ban)

AK or 5 (one for each family member and a spare or 2)
AR or 3 (and some top ends)
Ar180b or 5 (with folding stocks and threaded bbls, yes, I know they don't come from the factory that way)
The big Barret semiauto
A pair of G-3s or FALs, or maybe both
Benelli semiauto (the one with the detachable mag)

Cases of mags for the above.
The ARs might be just lowers to start with, As would FALs. The Barret is last on the list (.50BMG ammo is bulky!) next to the Bennelli. Not that I don't want them, but somethings gotta take priority.

The wife wants a Tommy Gun (non-martial), An Uzi, and an MP5. And ammo, lots of ammo... she says she'll settle for non NFA versions, But she likes the Rock & Roll... 8^)

As far as NFA, I've only minor qualms with 1934, but 1968 and 1986 are really what are driving up prices (at least in free america). 922r is another law I'd like to get rid of on a federal level. But we all know that story...

A second job to pay off the loan I'd need to buy these 8^)

RGB
Unenforcable laws undermine all laws.

radioactivelego

08-03-2006, 11:07 AM

Which ones would I buy?

http://www.radioactivelego.com/sa/everyone.gif

08-03-2006, 04:33 PM

AR magazines, M1A magazines

Maybe later an AK or HK-91 (or PTR-91)

icormba

08-03-2006, 04:55 PM

Dragunov SVD.

what the young guy said! ;)

Dragunov SVD

.

KrizB

08-04-2006, 07:00 AM

First thing I would buy- several of the 17 round 24/7 magazines for my PT111 Mil-pro, since they cost about the same price as the 10 rounders ($30-$35).

Also some Glock and 1911 mags.

Rifle/Shotgun wise, no pinned mag+semi auto= :)

PistolKidd

08-04-2006, 08:04 AM

if it ended today?? HK MP5 and a G36 Carbine.. I'd either get those, or probably get nothing..

Strange how you only want stuff you can't have..

SemiAutoSam

08-04-2006, 08:20 AM

if it ended today?? HK MP5 and a G36 Carbine.. I'd either get those, or probably get nothing..

Strange how you only want stuff you can't have..

Its the apple theory god said dont eat of the apple man did.

To us it does not make sence that there is this thing that we cant have.

Ohh ok I understand because they call it an assault weapon that means I cannot own it that makes perfect sence to me.

zefflyn

08-04-2006, 09:14 AM

Personally, I'd just order up a few more full-capacity magazines for the guns I already have, plus a couple of the 30-rounders for my Glock.

Today, I can't afford to run out and buy a few thousand-dollar rifles - maybe in a few months.

grammaton76

08-04-2006, 11:37 AM

if it ended today?? HK MP5 and a G36 Carbine.. I'd either get those, or probably get nothing..

Strange how you only want stuff you can't have..

...because we buy everything we want and CAN have. :)

xenophobe

08-04-2006, 12:56 PM

If the AWB ended, then I could sell all of the stuff I don't really shoot and not have to worry about not having it, cause if I want it I can buy it.

I would sell most of my collection, and probably replace every one of them with something new. :)

rorschach

08-04-2006, 03:02 PM

HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-41 (not a G41), MSG-90, PSG-1, Thompson M1, Stoner SR-25 or Armalite AR-10, Colt LE6920, SIG 550, the list goes on....

Silverback

08-04-2006, 03:53 PM

What would be your first purchase?

I'm not sure but it would mean the death of a few politicians! They would have a heart attack. :D :D

Maybe we should all buy now and tell them about it! :eek:

JPglee1

08-04-2006, 04:18 PM

HK-41 .

Yah...thats not RARE or anything ;)

IIRC the HK41 is the 762x39 version of the HK33, right?

J

rorschach

08-04-2006, 06:09 PM

Yah...thats not RARE or anything ;)

IIRC the HK41 is the 762x39 version of the HK33, right?

J

Your thinking of the HK32. HK's futile attempt to grab some eastern european sales. http://www.hkpro.com/hk32.htm

The HK41 is the precursor to the HK91. http://www.hkpro.com/hk41/hk41.htm

Think of it as an unlisted albeit $$$$ HK91.

SemiAutoSam

08-04-2006, 06:30 PM

Your thinking of the HK32. HK's futile attempt to grab some eastern european sales. http://www.hkpro.com/hk32.htm

The HK41 is the precursor to the HK91. http://www.hkpro.com/hk41/hk41.htm

Think of it as an unlisted albeit $$$$ HK91.

SO its a G series FN FAL in the HK world ? so cool are they on the DOJ list ?

or arent they covered on that list ?

rorschach

08-04-2006, 07:32 PM

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.

I dont see anything about HK41, SR-9 (and T or TC variants), or MSG-90, which are all based on the HK-91.

CORRECTION: Although not on the banned list in California, the MSG-90 is banned by the feds. Even though its semi-auto, it does not have the HK "semi-shelf" that other HK semi autos have, allowing the use of readily available full auto machine gun lowers (unclipped, unpinned lower housings with a front pivot pin instead of a slot).

SemiAutoSam

08-04-2006, 07:37 PM

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.

I dont see anything about HK41, SR-9 (and T or TC variants), or MSG-90, which are all based on the HK-91.

Excelent Im off hunting for a HK41

I take it the 41 uses the same mags ?

I must have about 40 HK91 mags it would be a shame if they didn't fit.

rorschach

08-08-2006, 01:28 AM

Good luck, I've been looking for one since May, and even if I found one for sale, I would prolly have to take out a loan to get it. Our best bet would probably be to get an SR-9 or variant thereof, which is essentially an HK-91 with a slightly longer polygonal-rifled barrel and no flash hider. I'm tempted to get one, but I'm holding out for a 41.

http://www.hkpro.com/sr9.htm

In the epic 1994 Marine Corps saga "Sniper" starring everybody's hero Tom Berenger, candy***** bureaucrat marksman Billy Zane humped a SR-9TC (albeit modded with G3 wide forearm and HK light bipod) through the bush.

HK41 will take G3 mags. I got a crapload of alloy preban mags too, it bums me out because when I got them back in 97 or so, they were about 20-25 bucks each. Now G3 mags could be had in free states for about 2 bucks.

magmaster

08-08-2006, 01:36 PM

HK UMP 45
HK G36
AR10
Thompson .45
Barrett .50
AK-47

rorschach

08-08-2006, 03:42 PM

Oh I forgot to add Ohio Ordnance Works semi-auto beltfed HK21 clone.

Cato

08-08-2006, 03:59 PM

The more I think about it...

If I had the right to own any firearm, I probably wouldn't buy anything. This is because I would know that I could buy one if I had the inclination. I'd probably get into something else like watches or gardening.

I got into the lower rush because I saw it as the only opportunity to get something that wont be around forever. When the '94 ban happened I was overseas in the military. I had access to REAL AWs back then. I'm kicking myself for not buying an AR and AK back then.

rorschach

08-08-2006, 08:47 PM

I'd probably get into something else like watches or gardening.

Don't even start with watches, you will be broke in no time. Before I found out about the offlist craze, I was getting ready to spend 2 grand on a '67 Rolex 5513 Submariner.

DANGERCLOSE

08-09-2006, 11:10 PM

:eek: most i will pay for a watch is about 40 bucks at costco. i got too many hobbies, so i spread the appropriated funds around. btw a hk g36 to my list, they are pretty cool looking.

SVTNate

08-09-2006, 11:59 PM

I just want some frickin' sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

Pokey

08-10-2006, 01:46 PM

I just want some frickin' sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

ROFLMAO!
That was CLASSIC!

stickman

08-11-2006, 10:29 AM

:eek: most i will pay for a watch is about 40 bucks at costco. i got too many hobbies, so i spread the appropriated funds around. btw a hk g36 to my list, they are pretty cool looking.

Too many hobbies is right. I wish they were cheap hobbies...that and the time factor. I can forego some sleep if I could afford them...

Brian

rorschach

08-11-2006, 10:59 AM

Closest you could get to a G36 is an SL8, then have ARS or Top Notch do the conversion. They are pretty bad***** though, I'd love to have a USC converted to UMP.

mltrading

08-11-2006, 01:24 PM

I would like to have:

Barrett M82A1
More real AR-15, of course
HK PSG-1
HK-G3 clones
HK MP5 clones
ROMAK-3 (The real SVD is hard to get)
maybe some AK/AK clones
A lot of drum magazines

rorschach

08-11-2006, 04:32 PM

You can get G3 and MP5 clones right now. PTR, Bobcat, Vector all make HK clones. You can even get a real HK, provided its not a 91 93 94 or PSG-1. I'm currently in negotiations for an unlisted genuine HK rifle.

I do have to agree with you bout the Barrett M82. I would have loved to have gotten one back when they were legal, I just couldnt afford it at the time. A real horsey AR would be nice too. I guess we can still get the Colt CAR here as its not listed.