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Hornet_RN
12-31-2010, 6:20 AM
so...i ordered my first M-1 Garand from the CMP and got a verification email!!!

what accessories should i get next?



obviously i need ammunition and some en bloc clips, is there anything else? (oh, i bought an ammo bandoleer, and i even ordered a bayonet too...what the hell)

what type of sling do you guys use? especially for high power competition?

does the CMP give me a case to put this rifle in?

what other crap should i get?

thanks,
Hornet_RN

stevie
12-31-2010, 6:38 AM
Just give the rifle a good cleaning. Lube it up and ready to go. Stock may or may not need cleaning.

Slings? decide on web or leather and go from there. CMP used to send a web sling with rifle. Do not think they do that anymore.

Ammo/clips as mentioned, can get from CMP. Ammo will probably attract a magnet.

Not sure if CMP is still sending the hard plastic case with rifles.

Mac Attack
12-31-2010, 6:55 AM
I have a M3A1 tool (I think that's what its called) which comes in handy for disassembling the bolt, cleaning the chamber and for several other uses. I highly recommend you pick one up. If you plan to shoot reloads I also recommend an adjustable gas plug. I have one and it is great and was easy to tune for my specific loads.

Regarding slings. The canvas sling which comes with your CMP rifle is a very good sling and I used mine for years to support my offhand shooting. I recently purchased a leather 1905 sling and like the added support compared the the canvas one. The leather sling is much more complicated to set up the shooter loop at first but once you get the proper adjustment it's just as simple to set up. If you plan to do a lot of offhand shooting or competition I highly recommend the leather sling. If you buy one, buy it from Turner Saddlery and get one of their blemished/seconds. I have one and I swear I cannot find a thing wrong with it and it is a quality sling for half the price of the normal one. I highly recommend it.

Other than those items the only thing I have is a fixed length cleaning rod with muzzle guide but any standard cleaning rod will do.

cmichini
12-31-2010, 7:10 AM
Adjustable plug for reloads or Non M2 spec ammo. I think I need one of these, too, but right now I have lots of USGI ammo so it's not critical.

Definitely a combination tool. There are 2 kinds the M3A1 is the one with the chamber brush. There is also another (don't remember the designation) that has a slotted piece to clean chamber (using a patch). They also have a screwdriver on it that fits the gas plug, and a bolt dis/assembly tool.

I would also suggest:
Rifle Grease. You can buy the little pots at gun shows, ebay, etc. They are getting pricey ($1 per) these days but having a few is good. I suggest you have a few (range bag, etc) but refill them. If you can find a case (144) you'll be set.

I believe you can use any white lithium grease but the military used Lubriplate and Plastilube brands. You can get lubriplate at Brownells and other places, not sure of Plastilube. I'm in the East Bay (I see you're Norcal) and I'd gladly let you fill up from my 1 lb. can of Lubriplate. It WILL last me the rest of my life.

If you want an accessory you shouldn't use you can get a buttstock cleaning kit but they assemble using many pieces so you have that many opportunities to nick the crown and potentially mar it where it will negatively affect accuracy. I have one but I have not used it (and don't plan to).

You can also get a cartridge belt to hold them en blocs (and bayo), an oiler that goes into the buttstock, grenade launcher and sight (some may not ship to the nanny state), etc.

For a sling I use a leather 1903 (or 1907?) style (I think mine's Turner). It is much better than the canvas slings.

As for a case I haven't purchased an M1 from the CMP for a while but you used to get the rifle, a canvas sling, lock, manual and CMP documentation, that's about it.

Don't forget some spare parts as well.

HTH and good luck on your purchase.

Hornet_RN
12-31-2010, 8:14 AM
1) gas plugs

i like your guy's suggestion about buying that gas plug from Schuster, but i wasn't really sure if i need it necessarily because i'm planning to reload my own .30-06.

here was my plan...i would buy some American Eagle/Federal M-1 Garand specific .30-06. I would then chronograph it and verify the average FPS of this American Eagle ammo. Then i would fine tune my own reloads till it matches the American Eagle ammo.

also, i am not planning on using the Garand for hunting, as i already i have a dedicated hunting rifle that can handle higher power .30-06 loads.

is the gas plug necessary for me then?

2) sling

Those Turner's slings are really reall nice...i might shell out some money for that! the one from Brownell's seems a bit overpriced, but looks good too.

Milsurp Collector
12-31-2010, 8:56 AM
Get both a M1907 leather sling and a M1 web sling. Original M1907 slings are expensive and sometimes fragile but reproductions are reasonably priced and widely available, even on ebay http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=m1907+sling&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Original USGI M1 web slings are widely available and reasonably priced http://whatacountry.com/m1-garand-slings.aspx

Either sling can be used for competition. The guy who runs the vintage and military rifle competitions at my gun club taught me how to use the M1 web sling so that's what I use, but many guys favor the leather sling for competition.

http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/slinghelp/slinghelp.htm

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As mentioned earlier, an adjustable gas plug will allow you to use commercial ammo without damaging your operating rod

McCann http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1538/Product/M1_GARAND_ADJUSTABLE_GAS_SYSTEM
Schuster http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=9&categoryId=12513&categoryString=10636***10560***9260***12508***

I posted this a few months ago

With all the people getting Garands, perhaps some of them for the first time, I feel the need to repost something I posted in another thread.

Nothing will spoil your fun faster than getting "Garand thumb", caused by the bolt slamming shut on your thumb (not my thumb, a web picture):

http://i44.tinypic.com/21eyfiq.jpg

This is actually more likely to happen when you are playing with your unloaded M1. Without the friction of a loaded en bloc clip in the magazine, there is nothing to slow the bolt from snapping shut like a mousetrap. It is less likely to happen when you are actually loading your M1. Sometimes you even have to gently slap the op rod handle to get the bolt to close when the rifle is loaded.

Get into the habit of keeping the back edge of your right hand against the op rod handle as you are loading the en bloc clip so you can keep the op rod and bolt from springing forward on your thumb (not my hand, Box o' Truth's hand).
http://www.theboxotruth.com/images2/e62-4.jpg

Same technique when you close the bolt on an unloaded rifle by depressing the follower.

See http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu62.htm

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An accessory designed to prevent Garand thumb is the Holbrook device http://www.m1thumbsaver.com/

http://www.m1thumbsaver.com/images/stories/holbrook_device_installation_xsm.jpg

It replaces the standard operating rod catch inside the rifle. After loading the en bloc clip, the bolt won't automatically close. You have to pull back and then release the op rod handle to close the bolt. When the last round is fired the bolt is locked open but the clip doesn't automatically eject. It is ejected by pushing the clip latch button. Most people learn to operate the Garand without getting Garand thumb, and enjoy the "ping" sound when the clip is ejected, but it is something to consider if you are worried about getting your thumb smashed.

Flyin Brian
12-31-2010, 8:59 AM
If you're going to shoot in the Garand matches you should get a 2 round clip. It's an enbloc that is modified to hold 2 rounds, so when you are firing 10 shots rapid fire, you load the 2 round clip and then have a regular enbloc waiting to finish off the set. You could also get a sled which is a modified enbloc that allows you to load single rounds and it doesn't eject until you remove it.

Paul S
12-31-2010, 11:08 AM
I got my Garand in November. Rifle Case...yes
Sling...no
Enjoy your piece of history.

Cato
01-01-2011, 11:48 AM
I got a couple Garands two years ago. The case I got was just a shipping case; you'll probably want a regular rifle case.

I don't like the gas plug idea. Just spring for 1000 rounds of some surplus CMP 30 06 or foreign ammo designed for the Garand.

You'll need to finish the stock too. If your Garand comes with a new stock you'll just need a tin of Tung Oil; put at least three light coats. If you have an old stock, it sounds like you'll want to clean, sand, and refinish it.

ejhc11
01-01-2011, 12:49 PM
Its nice to have if you want to use any over the counter ammo. Read my post at another forum on the two options.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4290797#post4290797

Hope that helps.... Happy New Year everyone too...!

Mac Attack
01-01-2011, 1:12 PM
Shooting any ammo other than surplus M2 ball could damage the oprod on your rifle including reloads unless they are made to M2 specs.

A adjustable gas plug is useful in the event that you run out of surplus ammo and need to shoot commercial rounds. Additionally adjustable plugs allow you to tailor the plug for accuracy for a specific load. Also, if it matters, in a SHTF situation having the ability to shoot whatever rounds are available is useful.

cmichini
01-02-2011, 11:08 AM
For competition you should get a SLED, forgot what the full acrynoym stands for (Single E??? Loading Device).

YOu can actually make one from an en block clip and a dremel. I have a purchased one and home crafted and they both work fine.

I bet you can search the web for instructions measurements, etc.

Bhobbs
01-03-2011, 9:35 AM
Like it was said above make sure you get grease for your M1. I started out using gun oil and it would toss the brass all over the place but once I got some Lubriplate it puts the brass in a nice pile a few feet at 2 o'clock.

GillaFunk
01-03-2011, 2:14 PM
- M1 Garand Complete Assembly Guide (http://www.fulton-armory.com/MParts.htm)
- Grease
- CMP ammo.
- some more ammo.

Once you have enough of that, but a little more.

I think the CMP sells leather slings. Turners makes some really nice slings as well

oh, and dont forget the some ammo. I hear it goes fast

mls343
01-03-2011, 4:39 PM
Besides more ammo, you also need another Garand! You can't have just one...

Just my opinion... :-)

ElvenSoul
01-03-2011, 7:06 PM
Go to Marco inc or cheaper than dirt...the have lots of goodies...including 5 round clips

ElvenSoul
01-03-2011, 7:08 PM
Oh you might want some 3 round target clips.