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peopleofthesun
12-30-2010, 3:49 PM
I believe it is a Llama IV from what I've read. It says 9mm/38 on the slide and has no grip safety. It resembles a 1911 alot. The barrel is around 5 1/4" long.
I've researched this handgun online for a couple of days and was looking for any personal experiences with it. It is missing the recoil spring and guide I think. Also missing the magazine. I think I found a magizine online but haven't found the recoil spring. I can take pictures of it later if that helps. Any advice or help welcome. Thanks.

morrcarr67
12-30-2010, 6:16 PM
I can't remember the model number or not but it sounds like you have a Llama pistol that chambers both the 9mm Largo and .38 Super. Search 9mm Largo for more info.

GWbiker
12-30-2010, 7:13 PM
Try this link... Many Spanish gun experts here with contacts in USA and in Spain for parts:

http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?40-The-Spanish-Pistol-Board

peopleofthesun
12-30-2010, 10:03 PM
Thanks guys I'll look into that. Seems like it would be a nice gun. I hope I can get it back to shooting form.

morrcarr67
12-31-2010, 6:34 AM
Check out some of this link:

http://www.9mmlargo.com/index.htm

peopleofthesun
12-31-2010, 3:59 PM
Here is some quick pictures I took.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/IMAG0057800x600.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/IMAG0060_edit0.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/IMAG0056800x600.jpg

morrcarr67
01-01-2011, 6:00 AM
Very nice. Looks to be in pretty good condition. Be sure to check out Numrich (http://www.gunpartscorp.com/) for the parts you need.

taloft
01-01-2011, 6:12 AM
From that last picture, it appears that you have the spring guide. It looks like you need the recoil spring and the recoil spring plug.

Bentot
01-01-2011, 7:05 AM
It looks similar to the STAR MODELO B in 9mm Luger except the serial # on the model B is on the bottom (magazine well) with a B above it.

Try this method: remove the barrel and drop a fired 9mm luger casing in the chamber, if it sits flush it maybe a 9mm luger, if it sits higher it maybe a 9mm Largo. You may need to excert a little force to chamber the casing since it has expanded from being fired.

taloft is correct, you need the recoil spring and the recoil spring plug.

peopleofthesun
01-01-2011, 11:34 AM
Thank you guys for the replies. Will follow your advice.

peopleofthesun
01-09-2011, 3:18 PM
Just installed a new recoil spring and plug. Also found a magazine that seems to function so far. Now I need to find some ammo to run through and see how it works. Thanks all for your help so far.

morrcarr67
01-09-2011, 5:48 PM
If you have a C&R you can buy it at Century (http://www.centuryarms.biz/index.asp) for $3.87 per 25. If not check out these people (http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product258.html).

peopleofthesun
01-09-2011, 7:04 PM
If you have a C&R you can buy it at Century (http://www.centuryarms.biz/index.asp) for $3.87 per 25. If not check out these people (http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product258.html).

Nice! Thank you. I will check local gun show coming up too.

morrcarr67
01-10-2011, 6:00 AM
Nice! Thank you. I will check local gun show coming up too.

I just checked at Century and it looks like they will sell to you for $5.95 if you don't have a C&R shipping is cheap too. order $75.00 and pay $12.95 shipping, order $501 and shipping is free.

peopleofthesun
01-10-2011, 10:19 AM
I just checked at Century and it looks like they will sell to you for $5.95 if you don't have a C&R shipping is cheap too. order $75.00 and pay $12.95 shipping, order $501 and shipping is free.

I saw that too. Prices are not too bad. I found a couple others but prices were a lil higher or they are corrosive.

http://www.longmountain.com/ammunition/9mm-largo/

Ammunition to go has them too.

How bad would it be to shoot corrosive ammo? I read that you have to clean the gun really well with something special.

morrcarr67
01-10-2011, 3:44 PM
I saw that too. Prices are not too bad. I found a couple others but prices were a lil higher or they are corrosive.

http://www.longmountain.com/ammunition/9mm-largo/

Ammunition to go has them too.

How bad would it be to shoot corrosive ammo? I read that you have to clean the gun really well with something special.

I shoot corrosive all the time. No big deal. Clean as soon as you get home with warn water and mild dish soap. Dry; I use a hair dryer that doesn't blow hot, with air. Then clean again with Hoppe's #9 or what ever you have, oil and put to bed until next time.

peopleofthesun
01-10-2011, 4:02 PM
I shoot corrosive all the time. No big deal. Clean as soon as you get home with warn water and mild dish soap. Dry; I use a hair dryer that doesn't blow hot, with air. Then clean again with Hoppe's #9 or what ever you have, oil and put to bed until next time.

Easy enough. Thank you for all your help.

peopleofthesun
03-03-2011, 11:30 PM
Finally got some 9mm Largo ammo so I went to The Range tonight. Shot 100 rounds with only two failed to fire. I blamed it on 1962 ammo. Other than the failed to fire no other malfunctions. I really like the way it shoots and feels. I am not a good shot to begin with plus add the excitement of finally getting to shoot it equals what you see here. :D

Pic 1: First 25 rounds @ 10yrds
Pic 2: Head @ 15yds
Pic 3: @ 10yrds

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/LlamaIV.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/LlamaIV_2.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z211/ciscoford23/Range/LlamaIV_3.jpg