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BigBamBoo
12-28-2010, 4:38 PM
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7.62 FMJ
12-28-2010, 6:18 PM
That's awesome, I have not been coyote hunting yet but i got a call for christmas and cant wait to get out. Please keep the videos coming they are really well done.

BigBamBoo
12-28-2010, 6:25 PM
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Gijoe
12-28-2010, 7:37 PM
Nice dog keep up the good work.... or should i say quit hunting coyote hunting and save it to the losers like me:D

CUTTERS DADDY
12-28-2010, 8:30 PM
Nice video and thanks for posting it up. Enjoyed watching and listening to it

cruddymutt
12-28-2010, 9:16 PM
Gotta love coyote hunting. My 13 yo daughter called in her first animal tonight (kit fox). No coyotes showed however.

Shoot-it
12-28-2010, 10:39 PM
Good video maybe PCH can learn a few things from it.
Great bang flop

WTSGDYBBR
12-28-2010, 10:49 PM
I never been coyote hunting but got to try it.

tenpercentfirearms
12-28-2010, 10:53 PM
Nice. I noticed he muted the call! Even though someone still barked at him, noticed how he went right back to staring at the now quiet call? Next time, don't even try a bark unless the silence doesn't stop him.

I was watching the video with a 18 month old in my lap with the sound kind of low, how long did you wait after you shot him until you stopped calling? Many, many times we have kept calling and have gotten multiple coyotes to come in even after shooting.

Here is a good link showing what happens when you keep calling.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=93807&Number=841523#Post841523

Also, see if you can find a third person to go and try using a shotgunner laying down about ten yards from the call in spots like that. With the rocks, it would have worked perfectly. Plus it is a heck of a lot of fun to be laying on your back and watch a coyote run up to within about ten yards of you. You just need to make a custom camo stiff pillow to prop your head up.

Excellent job boys! Without a doubt, you are doing it right. Keep it up!

I get to go out Friday. I am stoked.

StudioDison
12-28-2010, 11:22 PM
What rifle is that?

BigBamBoo
12-29-2010, 9:05 AM
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tony270
12-29-2010, 10:13 AM
Great job on the shooting and the camera work. Frank served him well, thanks for sharing.

PokerFace
12-29-2010, 10:19 AM
sweet knock em dead.

stphnman20
12-29-2010, 10:26 AM
Awesome job!

chicoredneck
12-29-2010, 11:22 AM
sorry i don't have sound.... which call seems to be bringing them in right now?

Merc1500
12-29-2010, 11:39 AM
Good job. I don't mean to hate on coyote hunting but I don't know if I personally could do it. They just seem too much like dogs to me.

BigBamBoo
12-29-2010, 12:12 PM
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Merc1500
12-29-2010, 12:27 PM
You need to try different ones and see what works in your area. We use Lightning Jack almost everytime...cause it works for us.



And you have posted this exact sentiment on just about EVERY coyote hunting thread I have read on here....we get it. Your not into it. So why do you keep viewing the thread when you see coyote hunting in the title? Reminds me of the anti-porn folks....they hate porn, but look at it just to see how "disgusting" it is.


Take care,Stan

I know for a fact that you are mistaking me for someone else! This is the first time I have posted on a yote thread or said anything about coyote hunting at all. You better check your facts. I can understand if you are frustrated with someone else that does that but it isn't me.

SMOKEYMOUNTAIN
12-29-2010, 1:48 PM
Did u pack up the meat?

Shoot-it
12-29-2010, 6:24 PM
Stan when is it your turn to use the rifle and for frank to film.

BigBamBoo
12-29-2010, 6:51 PM
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s&w5906
12-29-2010, 6:52 PM
I know for a fact that you are mistaking me for someone else! This is the first time I have posted on a yote thread or said anything about coyote hunting at all. You better check your facts. I can understand if you are frustrated with someone else that does that but it isn't me.

WOW...temper, temper

s&w5906
12-29-2010, 6:54 PM
Stan,
You think theres any way to set something up for a few newbies??

BigBamBoo
12-29-2010, 7:33 PM
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GillaFunk
12-29-2010, 7:51 PM
Damn...I soo promised myself I would start yote hunting this summer. DHAMMIk!

Nice job Gents!

tenpercentfirearms
12-29-2010, 8:34 PM
Thanks guys.

Hi Wes. We always keep calling after the shot. I just edit out the slow spots. Figured most folks do not want to watch 10 min. of just listening to the call. No 2nd taker on this stand.

I was going to say your videos can be kind of long. Man if you didn't edit them, I would die! ;)

Again, you boys have it down. Keep it going.

I might get rained out Friday. Not because of actual rain, but no rancher wants you screwing up their soaked roads! DOH!!!

Oh, speaking of the rain. Three years ago when the coyote calling was out of control on fire, we did some rain calling from the inside of the truck! We called in three coyotes sitting in the truck that morning!

The first call we parked in a little bit of a depression in the middle of wide open territory and put the call under a board about 20 yards away. Started the call and if I recall correctly, my cousin shot two coyotes at that stand from the window of the old Toyota while I watched from the back seat.

The next stand I was in the passenger seat and we called one in. I shot it with a 50 grain .223 and it ended up running off. My dad was not pleased with my AR.

We did one more and again and parked in the middle of a bunch of old farm tanks and equipment. Coyote ran in from behind us and parallel to the truck and right out in front of me. I again popped him with the 50 grainer and he ran off, but died on the other side of the tank.

I switched to 55 grain V-Max after that and then the condor zone screwed me!

So when all else fails, try a truck call in the rain!

bondmid003
12-29-2010, 9:31 PM
Forgive a coyote hunting newb question but is the meat any good?

Can it be made into jerky or something like that?

rabbiddog
12-29-2010, 10:02 PM
Nice. I noticed he muted the call! Even though someone still barked at him, noticed how he went right back to staring at the now quiet call? Next time, don't even try a bark unless the silence doesn't stop him.

I was watching the video with a 18 month old in my lap with the sound kind of low, how long did you wait after you shot him until you stopped calling? Many, many times we have kept calling and have gotten multiple coyotes to come in even after shooting.

Here is a good link showing what happens when you keep calling.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=93807&Number=841523#Post841523

Also, see if you can find a third person to go and try using a shotgunner laying down about ten yards from the call in spots like that. With the rocks, it would have worked perfectly. Plus it is a heck of a lot of fun to be laying on your back and watch a coyote run up to within about ten yards of you. You just need to make a custom camo stiff pillow to prop your head up.

Excellent job boys! Without a doubt, you are doing it right. Keep it up!

I get to go out Friday. I am stoked.


Umm, Yes I muted the caller,But I'm also the 1 who woofed at him and he didn't stop and look at the caller he stopped and looked our way when I woofed and then right back at the decoy not the caller the coyote probably didn't even know the caller was there but the movement of the decoy kept his attention.
Also we stayed there for quite some time if I remember correctly we ended this set right around 15-20 min mark.
We didn't go out there to shotgun coyotes we were there to shoot them with my 243 and I keep my scope set at 4 power so if 1 comes close I can still shoot it. I do however at times take both rifle and shotgun,I do enjoy shotgunning them but its not my preferred method of hunting them.

Frank

rabbiddog
12-29-2010, 10:06 PM
Well when you try some Coyote Jerky let us know:chef:

rabbiddog
12-29-2010, 10:10 PM
Did u pack up the meat?

I just don't even know how to answer this question..........NO
Have you seen some of the crap these Coyotes eat? Of course the buzzards may have something to say about me slamming their supper....

rabbiddog
12-29-2010, 10:51 PM
sorry i don't have sound.... which call seems to be bringing them in right now?

You won't know until you get out there,I know bad answer but let me explain.
What's working for us here may not be a good sound for you where you are at.
I'm constantly trying different sounds Example: The last video I used the Fox Pro SnowShoe #2 sound and ended with the Coyote Death Cry. That was the first time I called anything with those sounds and I have used them before.
So as you can see I can't give you the answer to your question you just have to get out and experiment.

Frank

SMOKEYMOUNTAIN
12-29-2010, 11:41 PM
I just don't even know how to answer this question..........NO
Have you seen some of the crap these Coyotes eat? Of course the buzzards may have something to say about me slamming their supper....

I'm all about hunting. But killing just for the sport and letting the meat rot is unacceptable.

You are disrepecting the sport and the animal. If you don't plan on eating it, don't hunt it. Period.

Wow, I can't believe u really responded in that manner. I'm out this thread.

technique
12-30-2010, 12:15 AM
I'm all about hunting. But killing just for the sport and letting the meat rot is unacceptable.

You are disrepecting the sport and the animal. If you don't plan on eating it, don't hunt it. Period.

Wow, I can't believe u really responded in that manner. I'm out this thread.

Seriously man? They're varmints. They're pelt animals, if you feel like it.
Pests at best, as a hunter you should know the devastation they cause on deer, quail, and other REAL game animal population.

I'm in disbelief at your response.

SMOKEYMOUNTAIN
12-30-2010, 1:29 AM
Seriously man? They're varmints. They're pelt animals, if you feel like it.
Pests at best, as a hunter you should know the devastation they cause on deer, quail, and other REAL game animal population.

I'm in disbelief at your response.

Uh, coyotes, aka the American Jackal, are indigenous to the Americas. They serve their purpose as predators to keep native prey animal populations at bay. It's all about ecological homeostasis. They weren't introduced unnaturally like the feral hog in Texas or the Burmese python or the cane toad in the Florida Everglades. But that is besides the point. By your rationale, why don't we kill off all the natural predators in the California ecosystem and see where we stand?

Real American hunting is about living off the land, respecting Mother Nature, and harvesting your own food.

Look at what happened to the American Bison in the 1800's. Absolute devastation.

Sustainable hunting while understanding the natural balance of your ecosystem is the key.

Extermination is solely reserved for foreign species introduced into an unnatural environ, directly threatening the natural local ecological balance.

The coyote does not fit that description.

So when you prance around public forums bragging about your wasted kills, don't get butt-hurt when you receive negative feedback. You make your bed, sleep in it.

The only reason the coyote has become more of a nusiance is because we keep invading into their natural habit.

A little education goes a long way.

I have an idea. Why don't we execute all homeless people, mental patients, and other public charges. They're just varmints anyways; pests at best.

Where is PCH when you need him. He understands harvesting the hunt.

thevic
12-30-2010, 2:24 AM
That place looks exactly like the ranch i hunt in Paicines.

DeanW66
12-30-2010, 7:42 AM
Damn...I soo promised myself I would start yote hunting this summer. DHAMMIk!

Nice job Gents!

+1; me too, and schedule just didn't allow it.

BTW, WTF "DHAMMIk" = ????? (I know DAMHIK).

BigBamBoo
12-30-2010, 8:25 AM
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Eric Mayer
12-30-2010, 9:42 AM
Although I only hunt in the winter and try to use as much as the coyote as possible, I have to agree with Stan.

The California Department of Fish and Game Biologists have deemed it environmentally sound to not only have a year-round, open season on coyotes, but to also have no limit and no "game" status (meaning no wanton waste if you choose to leave it). They are of the belief that there is no detriment to the coyote population with these regulations in place. The fact that coyotes have expanded from the west to almost every other state and province in the east, shows that the coyote population is not touched by our hunting, trapping, etc.

So, if you are a biologist and have information the State of California does not have, please let us know so we can be educated on why your information disputes that of the trained professionals.

btw, many coyote hunters "harvest" the fur, skull, claws, etc and use them, so they are not "wasted".

Eric :cool:

technique
12-30-2010, 11:00 AM
:rofl2: I got nothin'!

Where is PCH? I'd like to hear about the thousands of yotes he killed before he ever thought of eating one...

Mstnpete
12-30-2010, 11:38 AM
Stan,

Thanks again for sharing a great yote hunt video.
Forget about them tree huggers.
Maschronic and I are now planning to go yote hunting soon.
I like what you guys did on the Tikka's, cutting the barrels down to 16".
I'm now thinking of purchasing a Tikka T3 in 223. My 308 bolt rifles I think will be to much for yotes.
Keep up the great job bro!
Just wondering, who's the maker of the barrel compensator you have on the rifles?

Hey Tech,
Good to see you bro! Haven't seen you in a long time!

pullnshoot25
12-30-2010, 12:17 PM
One day, my Finnish M39 will smote a or multiple coyotes.

BigBamBoo
12-30-2010, 12:46 PM
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dodgerfan175
12-30-2010, 2:00 PM
Keep the videos coming, I agree the buzzards also need to eat.

Mstnpete
12-30-2010, 2:18 PM
Vais Micro Brake's

Thanks for the info Stan!

mecam
12-30-2010, 8:39 PM
Awesome, the Mojo Critter decoy is the best $40 I ever spent on. Coyotes just zone in on them like there's no tomorrow. Good job.

norcalgunguy
12-30-2010, 9:25 PM
Stan, that was a quality video! How did you manage to get the camera so steady? We're you using any special wide angle lens?

rabbiddog
12-30-2010, 9:43 PM
I'm all about hunting. But killing just for the sport and letting the meat rot is unacceptable.

You are disrepecting the sport and the animal. If you don't plan on eating it, don't hunt it. Period.

Wow, I can't believe u really responded in that manner. I'm out this thread.

Can you say RETARD?
Dude reality is just through that door.....go ahead it won't hurt you.......No really.....Come on leave the dope......
I mean REALLY!!!!!
Come on if you want to eat a canine that eats Mice,Rats,gophers,Squirrels,Grasshoppers,Cats,Dogs ,Horse crap,Cow Crap,Road kill from last week and tries to get away with Human Babies you just go for it chomp away,BBQ that bad boy up,Put it in a pipe and smoke it for all I care.
Next you'll tell us that Coyotes are people too. Then try to tell all the families of the Infants the Coyotes tried to have for lunch how misunderstood the Coyote is.Then tell the same story to the young woman in Canada that loved to outdoors hiking and enjoying life that a pair of Coyotes attacked and chewed on and ultimately killed.
most of the Coyotes diet is Rodents and they carry many viruses and diseases
that can transfer to humans....
Again if you want to eat Coyote you and PCH can have a BBQ together and don't forget the Flowers.....
I'm sorry if this offends to many people,But this is just to dumb to be left alone.

Frank

rabbiddog
12-30-2010, 9:49 PM
Awesome, the Mojo Critter decoy is the best $40 I ever spent on. Coyotes just zone in on them like there's no tomorrow. Good job.

Ya, I like the Mojo. The flaw is the plastic is real thin and breaks easy. I made a stake out of a short metal pole and epoxied a 10 inch nail in it then filed the corners off the Mojo's square shaped base. Now I can slam the new stake into the ground and then insert the Decoy and it won't hurt the Mojo.
It has been extremely effective though.

Frank

BigBamBoo
12-30-2010, 9:51 PM
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mecam
12-30-2010, 10:11 PM
Keep watching my YouTube channel....will be posting new videos soon.....not sure how many more vids I will post here. Seems like to many people get their panties in a bunch at seeing vermin shot....still don't understand why people choose to watch things that offend them???

Take care,Stan

That's the reason I try not to post pics or vids here, just too many PETA members. ;)


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tenpercentfirearms
12-31-2010, 6:14 AM
I'm all about hunting. But killing just for the sport and letting the meat rot is unacceptable.

You are disrepecting the sport and the animal. If you don't plan on eating it, don't hunt it. Period.

Wow, I can't believe u really responded in that manner. I'm out this thread.

Actually, it is quite acceptable. Maybe it is unacceptable to you, but we do it all the time.

You are disrespecting us. You should have never entered this thread. If you want to make a thread to save the coyotes, be our guest. Just keep your drivel out of our thread about people who go out and kill coyotes.

Speaking of which, I missed one on a drive by in the Carrizo Plain yesterday. I was using my 3 Gun Rifle, a suppressor, and 43 grain bullets. Trying to get a rest off the bed of the pick up equals fail too.

This morning I get my revenge. Going out with the old man!

BigBamBoo
12-31-2010, 8:12 AM
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thejester
12-31-2010, 10:02 AM
Anyone ever hunted yotes with a Muzzleloader? I just got a CVA wolf, as I have never tried blackpowder before, and I am thinking about going out. I live in the IE, and I am not too sure about any good spots to hunt them out here, although I see them all the time.

BigBamBoo
12-31-2010, 10:29 AM
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Mstnpete
12-31-2010, 11:35 AM
Anyone ever hunted yotes with a Muzzleloader? I just got a CVA wolf, as I have never tried blackpowder before, and I am thinking about going out. I live in the IE, and I am not too sure about any good spots to hunt them out here, although I see them all the time.

I have, in WA. state using a CVA in .50 caliber.

Shoot-it
12-31-2010, 12:20 PM
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BigBamBoo
12-31-2010, 12:36 PM
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Shoot-it
12-31-2010, 2:02 PM
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CavTrooper
12-31-2010, 2:11 PM
When that dog ran off like lightning you said it needs time to bleed out. They get hit in the vitals and die maybe run 10 yards the most.

You have not been calling that long so act like you have. Remember shooting those foxes you thought were coyotes? In 2009 right in the archives on the CPC.
I thought PHC was bad but you are making him look good.

It was actually late 2008, but yeah, I remember the "hey, im new" posts on CPC.

Ya done good so far Stan, killin more coyotes than some ...pros... but I can see where shoot-it is coming from. Its all good though, you keep havin fun and thats all that really matters.

BigBamBoo
12-31-2010, 3:08 PM
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rabbiddog
12-31-2010, 3:42 PM
When that dog ran off like lightning you said it needs time to bleed out. They get hit in the vitals and die maybe run 10 yards the most.

You have not been calling that long so act like you have. Remember shooting those foxes you thought were coyotes? In 2009 right in the archives on the CPC.
I thought PHC was bad but you are making him look good.

Although Stan doesn't need my help defending himself lets get some clarification here. Stan and I have been hunting Coyotes since 2008 together. Fathers Day 2008 Stan and I hunted,called and shot 2 Coyotes and we were hunting together before that and I know for a fact Stan was hunting Coyotes long before that cause he was hunting with a close friend of his that happens to be related to me
Frank

thejester
12-31-2010, 3:53 PM
I have, in WA. state using a CVA in .50 caliber.

What kind of range do you have? I have heard anything from 50 yards to 200 (I sorta doubt that.)

Mstnpete
12-31-2010, 5:47 PM
What kind of range do you have? I have heard anything from 50 yards to 200 (I sorta doubt that.)

PM Sent. I was actually deer hunting in WA. state and using my Cameer deer call when a few yotes showed up. I shot the yote with iron sights at about 60 yards with a 50. cal black powder rifle using percussion caps.

cruddymutt
12-31-2010, 5:56 PM
Hey Stan I appreciate your videos. Ive been Coyote hunting for a couple years myself and its nice to see what others do. Gives a guy a fresh look at things. I know what works for ME but what works for you might work for me too.
Keep the videos coming. My daughter and I enjoy watching them.

rabbiddog
12-31-2010, 6:19 PM
I really wasn't coming to his aid,he takes care of himself. Just trying to clear the air.
Really I can't believe this is on going I feel like I'm in high school again.
So really the point is not so much to get you to shut up,But more to the fact you don't really know when Stan started hunting coyotes and that is what I was really trying to get across. I started hunting with Stan in the late winter or spring of 2008 and he was hunting with my cousin before that who just happens to be one of his closest friends. I really don't know why this is such a big deal,But then again I don't know everything.
I'm really surprised that anyone should hold any kind of judgment on a persons skill at anything just because he doesn't have as much experience.
Stan has a knack for detail and he and I discuss how to make a set up and then agree on how it will go and I've been hunting coyotes for almost 17 years.
I'm not afraid to ask others opinions whether they have less exp. or not.
So what ever your problem is with Stan is not mine,but I do know when I started hunting with him and any advice he gives me for just shooting or coyote hunting I listen again because I don't know it all and he doesn't claim to know it all either.

Just my stance on this issue I think we really need to put this 1 to rest but whatever..........
Frank

tenpercentfirearms
12-31-2010, 6:51 PM
When that dog ran off like lightning you said it needs time to bleed out. They get hit in the vitals and die maybe run 10 yards the most.

Are you saying a coyote that is going to die will run ten yards at the most before dieing? Well that goes against my years of experience and exactly what I witnessed today.

My father made a 70 yard running shot with his 12 gauge. The coyote dropped, got back up, and ran into the ditch. I found him about 50-75 yards up the ditch deader than a doornail about 10-15 minutes later.

We have coyotes take solid hits and run off with their guts hanging out up to 100 yards or more where they keel over and die out of sight.

However, maybe I misunderstood you. Maybe you mean if you get a really good shot in, then they go 10 yards max and die. Well that isn't right either because if you get a really good shot in, they don't go anywhere. They are dead right there.

professionalcoyotehunter
12-31-2010, 7:36 PM
Good video maybe PCH can learn a few things from it.
Great bang flop

Already know way more than this video could offer.:p

Great job Stan. Quit using an e-caller.

Fireguy
12-31-2010, 10:49 PM
Thanks Stan for the videos, I've never hunted Coyotes before, have been very informative. I hunt deer in C 4 and hear them every night around the camp. I learn better from visual info to learn than from the printed word. I hopefully I pop a coyote when I do my per season scouting.
I've gotten more out of your video than I have reading posts over the last couple of years.
May be because I'm a novice but I'll watch your stuff until someone else puts out better stuff.

Keep up the good work. Frank thanks for doing the heavy lifting.

professionalcoyotehunter
12-31-2010, 10:58 PM
Fireguy. I can send you some primos videos if you want some great info as long as you send them back to me when you are done?

rabbiddog
01-01-2011, 12:17 PM
Thanks Stan for the videos, I've never hunted Coyotes before, have been very informative. I hunt deer in C 4 and hear them every night around the camp. I learn better from visual info to learn than from the printed word. I hopefully I pop a coyote when I do my per season scouting.
I've gotten more out of your video than I have reading posts over the last couple of years.
May be because I'm a novice but I'll watch your stuff until someone else puts out better stuff.

Keep up the good work. Frank thanks for doing the heavy lifting.

I like doing the heavy lifting keeps me in shape although I already work out 4 days a week.
Don't get to wrapped up in believing all that you see or hear is gospel in Coyote hunting.
Different things work in different areas, Usually because some areas get over hunted and the coyotes learn and therefore won't respond to the usual sounds.You need to try different sounds and tactics.
I've found this to be a constant, experiment with different sounds.
Remember just because something works for us or Randy Anderson or Les Johnson or any one else you know that hunts coyotes doesn't mean its going to work for you where you are at and that includes the use of a decoy.

Frank

thejester
01-01-2011, 7:50 PM
What do you all do with the hides etc?

tenpercentfirearms
01-01-2011, 8:58 PM
What do you all do with the hides etc?

Nothing. Coyotes are non-game animals with no limit and no season. You shoot them and let them lie. It is no different than jack rabbits, rats, mice, cockroaches, and flies.

packnrat
01-01-2011, 10:25 PM
Uh, coyotes, aka the American Jackal, are indigenous to the Americas. They serve their purpose as predators to keep native prey animal populations at bay. It's all about ecological homeostasis. They weren't introduced unnaturally like the feral hog in Texas or the Burmese python or the cane toad in the Florida Everglades. But that is besides the point. By your rationale, why don't we kill off all the natural predators in the California ecosystem and see where we stand?

Real American hunting is about living off the land, respecting Mother Nature, and harvesting your own food.

Look at what happened to the American Bison in the 1800's. Absolute devastation.

Sustainable hunting while understanding the natural balance of your ecosystem is the key.

Extermination is solely reserved for foreign species introduced into an unnatural environ, directly threatening the natural local ecological balance.

The coyote does not fit that description.

So when you prance around public forums bragging about your wasted kills, don't get butt-hurt when you receive negative feedback. You make your bed, sleep in it.

The only reason the coyote has become more of a nusiance is because we keep invading into their natural habit.

A little education goes a long way.

I have an idea. Why don't we execute all homeless people, mental patients, and other public charges. They're just varmints anyways; pests at best.

Where is PCH when you need him. He understands harvesting the hunt.

sorry but the hunting to all gone of the American bison was to kill off the native Indians population. not all that much for any other reason.
but it did feed the rail workers and a lot of hides were sold off.

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thejester
01-01-2011, 11:28 PM
Nothing. Coyotes are non-game animals with no limit and no season. You shoot them and let them lie. It is no different than jack rabbits, rats, mice, cockroaches, and flies.

Yeah I get that. I was wondering if the hides or anything were useful? I'm not condemning anyone, just curious as I was thinking about shooting a few if I could use the hides.

Fate
01-01-2011, 11:29 PM
I shot coyotes years ago as a teen in TX, but know nothing about CA regulations, etc. Do you need a hunting license to take them in CA?

thejester
01-01-2011, 11:36 PM
sorry but the hunting to all gone of the American bison was to kill off the native Indians population. not all that much for any other reason.
but it did feed the rail workers and a lot of hides were sold off.

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Actually, that was one of several reasons. The hides were quite valuable, as well as the meat, so they were often hunted just for the profit off the hides, They would shoot as many as they could, drive a steak in the skull, and pull the hides off with horse. Also was the fact that they impeded the railroads, so they were shot for that as well. Back then bison coats were the shiz. Coyote hunting is not anywhere near the carnage that the buffalo saw. In fact, I highly doubt that a drop is being put in the Coyote population. The sad part about the buffalo was that they left the perfectly good amazing tasting meat to rot.

tony270
01-02-2011, 6:40 AM
Nothing. Coyotes are non-game animals with no limit and no season. You shoot them and let them lie. It is no different than jack rabbits, rats, mice, cockroaches, and flies.


Jackrabbits are game animals in California. That make it violation to shoot them and leave them in the field, that's considered “Wanton Waste”, and one could be cited for shooting them a leaving in the field. If you don't care for jackrabbits as table fare, they make good pet food.

I thinkd there's a regulation that states we are suppose move a coyote caucus out of the general publics view, that’s all that's required. I think I read that when someone posted if from the Fish and Game Commissions Code. I also think the regulation states a specific distance from trails, roads, and parking areas and the likes.

So if you kill a coyote that might be easily viewable to the general public, move it out of sight, if you don’t, that just might start someone on campaign to stop us.

That's just a good thing for the perseveration of coyote hunting.

jawbreaker
01-02-2011, 8:15 AM
Already know way more than this video could offer.:p

Great job Stan. Quit using an e-caller.

You are still a dork. Not you Stan, I have no issues with you, I don't hunt the way you do but it seems to work for you and no one can hold that against you.

tenpercentfirearms
01-02-2011, 9:23 AM
Jackrabbits are game animals in California. That make it violation to shoot them and leave them in the field, that's considered “Wanton Waste”, and one could be cited for shooting them a leaving in the field. If you don't care for jackrabbits as table fare, they make good pet food.I stand corrected and that makes sense since you can use leaded ammo on jack rabbits still. They don't have a season or limit like coyotes and that is where I made my error. Thanks for fixing it for me.


Yeah I get that. I was wondering if the hides or anything were useful? I'm not condemning anyone, just curious as I was thinking about shooting a few if I could use the hides.
My dad used to trap coyotes for hides, but it really is cheap work and a lot of it so he stopped worrying about the coyotes so much and just skinned the cats and the foxes. You could do something with the hide if you have the knowledge and the inclination.

professionalcoyotehunter
01-02-2011, 4:20 PM
You are still a dork. Not you Stan, I have no issues with you, I don't hunt the way you do but it seems to work for you and no one can hold that against you.

Namecalling really? Please get a life bro. Stan you are okay in my book even though you are not a very nice person.

Shoot-it
01-02-2011, 4:42 PM
As for muzzle loading and hunting coyotes that is one thing I would like to try.The only down side is you cant un load it like you do a rifle.So every time you leave like drive a vehicle to go to a new spot a person would have to discharge it into the ground.
Even on private land if I was to take out the percussion cap and make it safe a warden could still fine me for a loaded weapon in vehicle.

If I am wrong on this correct me.

Mstnpete
01-02-2011, 11:56 PM
As for muzzle loading and hunting coyotes that is one thing I would like to try.The only down side is you cant un load it like you do a rifle.So every time you leave like drive a vehicle to go to a new spot a person would have to discharge it into the ground.
Even on private land if I was to take out the percussion cap and make it safe a warden could still fine me for a loaded weapon in vehicle.

If I am wrong on this correct me.

It really depends on which state you are hunting in.
WA state during muzzle loading season, all you need to do is take off the percussion cap. No private lands to deal with a Free state .

YourHuckleberry
01-03-2011, 12:41 AM
Can you say RETARD?
Dude reality is just through that door.....go ahead it won't hurt you.......No really.....Come on leave the dope......
I mean REALLY!!!!!
Come on if you want to eat a canine that eats Mice,Rats,gophers,Squirrels,Grasshoppers,Cats,Dogs ,Horse crap,Cow Crap,Road kill from last week and tries to get away with Human Babies you just go for it chomp away,BBQ that bad boy up,Put it in a pipe and smoke it for all I care.
Next you'll tell us that Coyotes are people too. Then try to tell all the families of the Infants the Coyotes tried to have for lunch how misunderstood the Coyote is.Then tell the same story to the young woman in Canada that loved to outdoors hiking and enjoying life that a pair of Coyotes attacked and chewed on and ultimately killed.
most of the Coyotes diet is Rodents and they carry many viruses and diseases
that can transfer to humans....
Again if you want to eat Coyote you and PCH can have a BBQ together and don't forget the Flowers.....

Frank

Wow, way to hang a neon sign over your head.

I like doing the heavy lifting keeps me in shape although I already work out 4 days a week.

Frank

:rolleyes:

rabbiddog
01-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Wow, way to hang a neon sign over your head.



:rolleyes:

Your a little late this topic is done.....Keep your sign.

YourHuckleberry
01-03-2011, 12:31 PM
Your a little late this topic is done.....Keep your sign.

What? My post was 40 minutes after the previous. How is that late?

You just posted 12 hours after the fact.

And why is it done? Because you say so?

rabbiddog
01-04-2011, 5:07 AM
What? My post was 40 minutes after the previous. How is that late?

You just posted 12 hours after the fact.

And why is it done? Because you say so?

You're funny.... didn't take much to get you riled up. I didn't even look at the other posting times.

tony270
01-04-2011, 6:34 AM
Hey guys, try to keep the thread on topic and ignore the testosterone that makes one want to defend or attack the poster in disagreement or for past issues. Heck, you guys are one of the few who actually post action videos that looks real to me, but when you give attention to negative post that detracts from your accomplishments. Let us handle those distractions, and you guys concentrate on perpetuating coyote hunting and in making your investment profitable. You donít get that by responding negatively on an open forum. If you must, send that kind of stuff via PM.

Keep it up, and good luck.


I shot coyotes years ago as a teen in TX, but know nothing about CA regulations, etc. Do you need a hunting license to take them in CA?

Yeap, but you don't need a hunting license to hunt rattlesnakes, you do need a fishing license to hunt other reptiles though.

professionalcoyotehunter
01-04-2011, 8:13 AM
rabbiddog despite what you say, coyotes are delicious.

Stan was there wind? What was the temperature and the moon phase?

rabbiddog
01-06-2011, 3:40 PM
Hey guys, try to keep the thread on topic and ignore the testosterone that makes one want to defend or attack the poster in disagreement or for past issues. Heck, you guys are one of the few who actually post action videos that looks real to me, but when you give attention to negative post that detracts from your accomplishments. Let us handle those distractions, and you guys concentrate on perpetuating coyote hunting and in making your investment profitable. You donít get that by responding negatively on an open forum. If you must, send that kind of stuff via PM.

Keep it up, and good luck.




Yeap, but you don't need a hunting license to hunt rattlesnakes, you do need a fishing license to hunt other reptiles though.

You're right there. Sometimes I just can't ignore those types of people.
Its especially hard when those people throw all their misguided facts in the mix and they try to attack you personally,But I will try to ignore them because I don't want a bad reputation to go along with my name here or anywhere else.
Just be aware I am only human and may have special moment from time to time to fend off some of those kinds of attacks.:94:

Frank

tony270
01-06-2011, 4:02 PM
Good to go Frank.
Just keep posting videos, those folks will have to shut-up, if they don’t other folks will check them. You guys ignore them and keep posting those realistic and fantastic hunts. What you guys post is the real deal and enough for us. Now that's enough of me giving out free warm fuzzies, j/k.

Good Luck and we all look forward to the future videos.

rabbiddog
01-08-2011, 9:26 PM
Oh we will keep posting videos. Matter of fact we have a local Predator hunt coming up in a couple weeks we hope to have a bunch of new video.
Hopefully get my 9 years old son his 1st coyote during that competition.
And everyboby needs warmm fuzzies from time to time so be sure to share some with others.

Good hunting
Frank

CavTrooper
01-08-2011, 10:49 PM
Did we ever find out how long it takes coyotes to bleed out after a solid hit? Im pretty sure its somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 to 2 hours and a good 3 to 5 mile run.

Khram
01-08-2011, 11:00 PM
Holy Lord, not again. My sis actually says she wants to try the coyote jerky!

rabbiddog
01-09-2011, 9:45 AM
Did we ever find out how long it takes coyotes to bleed out after a solid hit? Im pretty sure its somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 to 2 hours and a good 3 to 5 mile run.

Well, you know there's just to many senarios. I've personally hit both lungs and had a couple run 100 yards or more.
I've also had double lung shots drop them in their tracks.Even perfect heart shots and see em run of 25-50 yards.
I've hit them just a bit far back and had em drop right there,There's just a lot of different experiences that a lot of people have had and I really don't think there is a perfectly right or wrong answer.
I don't believe 1 persons experience with the "right hit" is going to be everyones experience. Don't believe caliber has all that much to do with it either unless we start talking about magnums and most predator hunters don't use those.
I don't think we are ever going to get the right or wrong answer because every animal is different. This makes for a good thread and everyone who has experience with any kind of hunting should put their experiences here and you'll see in most cases they do drop right there,But not always.
Its probably 10-1 for dropping on the spot but that is not written in stone.

Eat,Drink and be merry for tomarrow we shall die.......Frank

CavTrooper
01-09-2011, 2:22 PM
Well, you know there's just to many senarios.

I was under the impression that solid hit coyotes will drop dead immediately, no running, no move, no nothing, anything else indicated a not so solid hit. Is that not the case?

I mean, if coyotes CAN be dropped DRT, wouldnt every "solid" hit result in a DRT coyote?

rabbiddog
01-09-2011, 10:55 PM
Well that what I have been hearing, It is more common that they drop DRT but as I stated above I have hit some solid and they run.
Again the norm is a well place shot and they drop. There are times however they do the dirt boogy and then get up and run sometimes for 80 or more.
There is a thread on californiapredatorsclub.com about this very topic and these topics get kind of ugly sometimes,But again what is 1 persons experience may not be others.
Thats like saying that if you shoot a buck with a 7mm or an 06 that they drop right there and thats not always the case. I've seen deer get nailed perfect and still run 100 or more. When you find them there they are lung or heart shot and still they ran after being hit perfect with a large caliber rifle.
There are no absolutes in hunting and never will be and anyone who says there is doesn't hunt very often.
It really comes down to a persons personal experiences in the field.
Shot placement is the most critical thing in hunting and there are times in that split second before you shoot something might change just as you are squeezing the trigger.
One of my recent hunts I had a perfect shot on a coyote I squeezed the trigger and nothing happened not even a click. Well my safety was off so I looked at my bolt and it was up just enough to prevent my rifle from firing. So instead of a perfect shot on a standing coyote I had to make a shot on a moving coyote. Not a solid hit resulted in a no recovery. Hit looked good but in the end it may not have been that good.
This is just some of my experiences and may not be that of others and therefore is not the gospel by any means, But I can tell you I get out and hunt coyotes at least once a week and this is why I have these experiences because I get out there and hunt.

Frank

tenpercentfirearms
01-10-2011, 6:37 AM
I was under the impression that solid hit coyotes will drop dead immediately, no running, no move, no nothing, anything else indicated a not so solid hit. Is that not the case?

I mean, if coyotes CAN be dropped DRT, wouldnt every "solid" hit result in a DRT coyote?

I think the non-lead ammo might factor in too. I shot a coyote right in the kill zone for a deer with a 120 grain 6.5 Grendel TSX, but I think that non-lead bullet just kept going. So the coyote spun around for like 20 seconds until I hit him again and his guts came spilling out. Then he ran with his guts hanging out over the hill and died 40 yards down the other side.

In hindsight, I need to shoot for the shoulder so he won't run off.

So yeah, you can hit an animal right where you are supposed to and sometimes they don't just fall right over. It happens.

tony270
01-10-2011, 8:20 AM
Nothing is instant. Even a man has a half a minute after his head is cut off. Here, read how Henri Languille responded after his date with a guillotine. A key factor to look for in a bullet is design, weight and velocity.

http://www.executedtoday.com/2008/06/28/1905-henri-languille-a-man-of-science/

Shoot-it
01-10-2011, 2:31 PM
Good to go Frank.
Just keep posting videos, those folks will have to shut-up, if they donít other folks will check them. You guys ignore them and keep posting those realistic and fantastic hunts. What you guys post is the real deal and enough for us. Now that's enough of me giving out free warm fuzzies, j/k.

Good Luck and we all look forward to the future videos.

We are writing not talking buddy.
What is not the real deal Please explain.

tony270
01-10-2011, 3:11 PM
I donít and have a grudge with BB or Frank. As a matter of fact I know nothing about them except for what theyíve posted in their videos. I believe you may have a past history that caused bad blood between you and at least one of them. I believe you wrote that BB didnít know the difference between a kit fox and coyote. I think you worte that was something he posted on the CPC forum. That doesnít make it so that he canít learn, some people learn faster than others, he obviously has access to exceptional hunting grounds too.

I go by what I see, not by what people write, tell me, or hate on others about. I know what haters do. Itís called human nature. It happened to me when I learned how to race RC off-road trucks, it happends all the time. I moved from novice to expert class in less than a year. The haters came out of the woodwork. Thatís not much difference than what I see here. All you have to do is look at the thread over on CPC, that just stupid. Itís like you telling me, that dude is this and that, but when I met him heís was cool with me

Do you have any videos to post, if you don't, then please go make at least one. I know for a fact that when a coyote is shot broadside with a small caliber light bullet it can run, and often does.

DirtNapKing
01-10-2011, 4:00 PM
Holy Lord, not again. My sis actually says she wants to try the coyote jerky!
Once I get a copper & lead combo magnet kit to clean the fragments out the meat I will fire up the smoker. :D

rabbiddog
01-10-2011, 4:44 PM
I'm kinda pissed that this has become such a big ugly ordeal. I mean really guys its a video that Stan and I put together.
shoot-it I don't know what your problem with Stan is but from what I have been reading here and on CPC seems to me you just want to make an issue out of what most of us think is nothing.
Where is your video and pics of shot coyotes? You don't seem to be much more of an expert than Stan or myself or anyone else for that matter.This is STUPID...we should be talking about the hunts and comparing experiences not fighting about who's way is better or who has enough experience to hunt and give advice.
Did I mention this pisses me off?
I'm not sticking up for Stan either as you have stated before, He can really take care of himself,I'm just stating how dumb this whole topic has become on both boards.
All I have read from you is negative and insulting I don't think we need this kind of crap in any of these forums.
If you don't like me or Stan then just don't look at our posts' save us some grief.
Or just state you thoughts and move on this shouldn't be on going here or CPC.
Whatever your issue is GET OVER IT ALREADY or seek help......

Frank

rabbiddog
01-10-2011, 4:48 PM
I think the non-lead ammo might factor in too. I shot a coyote right in the kill zone for a deer with a 120 grain 6.5 Grendel TSX, but I think that non-lead bullet just kept going. So the coyote spun around for like 20 seconds until I hit him again and his guts came spilling out. Then he ran with his guts hanging out over the hill and died 40 yards down the other side.

In hindsight, I need to shoot for the shoulder so he won't run off.

So yeah, you can hit an animal right where you are supposed to and sometimes they don't just fall right over. It happens.


Well I'd love to use that one ,But in Northern Ca. we use real lead jacketed bullets.
My run offs have more n likely been me more than anything,although I'd like to think not. I'll make up for it next time.

Shoot-it
01-10-2011, 5:32 PM
It's cool rabiddog :D
Can we be friends now.....lol

tony270
01-10-2011, 5:54 PM
The videos you guys post are just like The Truth videos, they depict what really happens, some times you get them, and some times you don't. What is happening when people hate? that's called joylessly, and is actually ***** like.

HH and Good Luck

pdugan6
01-10-2011, 6:11 PM
I pig and yote hunt some land like that in elk creek. It is always a rush to see a yote come running in. It is amazing how smart and crafty those guys are. And if they wind you or sense danger they will literally turn themselves inside out to try and hightail it out of the country! fastest 180 retreat in the biz.

Matt P
01-10-2011, 6:16 PM
Excellent video quality btw.

I edited this due to I found my answer.

pat4wd
01-10-2011, 9:22 PM
:rolleyes:

rumblebee
01-11-2011, 12:57 PM
this thread needs a little pet coyote :reddevil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQDZWHrGTU

I don't see how you guys can shoot those cute little things anyway:confused: they help keep Jessica Simpsons pets in check and keep the Roadrunner on his toes too...win win! :rofl2:

NRAhighpowershooter
01-11-2011, 1:22 PM
Alright everyone... the peeing match will STOP rightnow! anymore and this thread goes by the wayside and the higher up Mods will take a look at the individual posters in here....

Kestryll
01-11-2011, 1:53 PM
I'm not going to be as nice as NRA.

Rabbiddog, Shoot-it, jawbreaker.

If I see you shooting off your smartassed mouths again I will boot your rude and juvenile sorry asses to the curb.

IS THIS CLEAR?

theseacow
01-11-2011, 2:53 PM
All these coyote vids need is a little more singing and dancing.