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dwtt
07-27-2006, 7:31 PM
I just looked up the guy who's going to challenge Alberto Torrico (AB2714 mail order ammunition ban) in November. I can't find much info about Ken Nishimura other than his address in Fremont and that he's a Republican. Does anyone know anything about him or his campaign? Things aren't looking good for challenging that fat pig Torrico.

anotherone
07-27-2006, 9:13 PM
The only way for the seats in the state legislature to change hands is by redrawing the voting districts. The only way to get Torrico or any of the other gun grabbers out of the legislature is for them to term out. They cannot be defeated in an election short of doing something insanely stupid like Gary Conduit did when he murdered that intern.

What I find to be disgusting is the way that many Republicans collaborated with the Dems to secure their positions as well. However, with unions able to form multi-million dollar political action committees and welfare used to buy votes we're pretty much screwed. Maybe we should spend just as much time on intiatives for redistricting as we're trying to spend on RKBA initiatives.

bwiese
07-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Arnie's problem last year was that he tried to do too much in one swell foop wiht the four propositions he was promoting...

While I entirely supported Prop 75, Prop 77 (redistricting) was the real priority gem. He coulda done the other 4 later, he shoulda just spent time on Prop 77.

Prop 77 wasn't perfect but at least it'd really scramble the pot.

anotherone
07-28-2006, 1:13 PM
What I find hillarious and hypocritical is how the voters of California voted in Arnie because they "wanted change". Then when Arnie attempts to bring about said change, everyone votes to maintain the status quo and gives themselves a big pat on the back.

Seriously though, we need to do something about the Cal Pers pensions out there, if we have to keep paying for an expanding government workforce because the state keeps growing and we also have to pay 90% of their salary whenever they retire we're screwed... this state is going bankrupt isn't it? It's already the first state to have a B credit rating.

vonsmith
07-28-2006, 2:50 PM
What I find hillarious and hypocritical is how the voters of California voted in Arnie because they "wanted change". Then when Arnie attempts to bring about said change, everyone votes to maintain the status quo and gives themselves a big pat on the back.
+100 I couldn't agreed more. Arnie did what he promised he would do. He put the opportunity in front of voters and they they left him swinging in the wind. Kalifornians missed out on the one chance I've seen in my lifetime here to fix, or at least improve, some things. I've come to the conclusion that most Kalifornians are stupid, very stupid. :mad:

Seriously though, we need to do something about the Cal Pers pensions out there, if we have to keep paying for an expanding government workforce because the state keeps growing and we also have to pay 90% of their salary whenever they retire we're screwed... this state is going bankrupt isn't it? It's already the first state to have a B credit rating.
This is a good point that seems never to be talked about. Kalifornia and many other state politicians elsewhere have supported the most wacky benefit packages for state employees. Several states are either going to go broke in a decade or two or they'll have to default on their commitments. I don't think taxpayers will being willing to shell out double digit percentage increases in tax liability. The retirement benefits in particular are not sustainable. During the "Tech Bubble" here in Kalifornia Gray Davis, his cronies, and even some republicans spent all we had and then some. Then they increased state employee wages and benefits to levels that were only sustainable if the tech boom continued forever. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Can you tell I'm p*ssed. Well too bad Kalifornia. By the time the Bandini hits the fan and the taxpayers are asked to pony up I'm going to be living in Free America. :p


=vonsmith=

Charliegone
07-28-2006, 4:53 PM
What I find hillarious and hypocritical is how the voters of California voted in Arnie because they "wanted change". Then when Arnie attempts to bring about said change, everyone votes to maintain the status quo and gives themselves a big pat on the back.

Seriously though, we need to do something about the Cal Pers pensions out there, if we have to keep paying for an expanding government workforce because the state keeps growing and we also have to pay 90% of their salary whenever they retire we're screwed... this state is going bankrupt isn't it? It's already the first state to have a B credit rating.


Yup...even my Poli sci professor said Californians lack long term vision. Even though some of the propositions had their negatives, IMHO, their benefits far outweighted the negatives.

chris
07-29-2006, 12:52 AM
all of these posts say what i want to say. people in this state keep voting for the people that are screwing them over so much they are just used to it. we need to redisdrict this state as it is now we really live in a socialist society where the people vote and nothing changes. people vote with their jobs and not their freedoms. they have been taken for granted and now look where we are now. SCREWED is one word that comes to mind.

anotherone
07-29-2006, 2:24 AM
all of these posts say what i want to say. people in this state keep voting for the people that are screwing them over so much they are just used to it. we need to redisdrict this state as it is now we really live in a socialist society where the people vote and nothing changes. people vote with their jobs and not their freedoms. they have been taken for granted and now look where we are now. SCREWED is one word that comes to mind.

There is good news though! Basically what the state government of California has been attempting to do is create a "nation within a nation" through a crazy patchwork set of socialist laws and politics. Eventually there will be two possibilities: declare independence and leave the US or declare bankruptcy and get more realistic about the size and role of the state government. All my money points towards option #2. Just like the feds borrowed money and spent the country into oblivion in the 1980s, eventually the state here will wake up. Unfortunately when it does, we'll just be paying the tab for a big state employee party.

I gotta admit that I often laugh when I continue to see offers for state employees to retire at 90% of their top salary. Yep, just because a guy who made $51,000 a year ended his career at age 55 making $72,000 for the final 6 months he gets to retire and get $64,800 for the next 33 years until he's 88!!! And oh yeah did I mention that because said state employee was a law enforcement officer on top of that $64,800 a year he'll also be making another $50,000+ because he has a state monopoly on his CCW and will provide part-time security for a bingo hall? Work for the state and earn $72,000 for six months... retire at $114,800 a year. Yep definitely sustainable NOT!!!

paradox
07-29-2006, 4:32 AM
The only way for the seats in the state legislature to change hands is by redrawing the voting districts. The only way to get Torrico or any of the other gun grabbers out of the legislature is for them to term out. They cannot be defeated in an election short of doing something insanely stupid like Gary Conduit did when he murdered that intern.


If Joe Liberman can lose his senatorial primary, there is hope for us all that Gerrymanders can be overcome. People are pissed this year. Itís a bad time to be an incumbent and a good time to be a challenger.

Ford8N
07-29-2006, 5:12 AM
There is good news though! Basically what the state government of California has been attempting to do is create a "nation within a nation" through a crazy patchwork set of socialist laws and politics. Eventually there will be two possibilities: declare independence and leave the US or declare bankruptcy and get more realistic about the size and role of the state government. All my money points towards option #2. Just like the feds borrowed money and spent the country into oblivion in the 1980s, eventually the state here will wake up. Unfortunately when it does, we'll just be paying the tab for a big state employee party.

I gotta admit that I often laugh when I continue to see offers for state employees to retire at 90% of their top salary. Yep, just because a guy who made $51,000 a year ended his career at age 55 making $72,000 for the final 6 months he gets to retire and get $64,800 for the next 33 years until he's 88!!! And oh yeah did I mention that because said state employee was a law enforcement officer on top of that $64,800 a year he'll also be making another $50,000+ because he has a state monopoly on his CCW and will provide part-time security for a bingo hall? Work for the state and earn $72,000 for six months... retire at $114,800 a year. Yep definitely sustainable NOT!!!


Law Enforcement Unions run this state. Just accept it. Even Arnie tucked his tail between his legs when he tried to take on the Correctional Officers Union.

chris
07-29-2006, 7:11 AM
If Joe Liberman can lose his senatorial primary, there is hope for us all that Gerrymanders can be overcome. People are pissed this year. Itís a bad time to be an incumbent and a good time to be a challenger.

i sure ads hell hope people in our state are pissed at the legislature. but then again this is Kalifornia.

it's too bad in this day and age that an incumbent does'nt even have to fight to keep his job. even though most legislators are doing a horrible job. if it was anyone of us at a regular we would have been canned along time ago. i hope that someone challenges this guy so the people in that district can fire him.

dwtt
07-29-2006, 11:21 AM
Law Enforcement Unions run this state. Just accept it. Even Arnie tucked his tail between his legs when he tried to take on the Correctional Officers Union.

Yes, labor unions and other special interests who support the Democrat party run this state, but that doesn't mean we should roll over and die.
Does anyone know anything about this Nishimura guy or his campaign?
If he's not likely to defeat the fat pig Torrico because of the gerrymandering, I think we should at least make it tough for him. The numbers look like this for our district: 47.1% Democrat, 24.3% Republican, 24.6% Decline to State. I'm in the last group of 24.6%. If every registered Democrat in District 20 votes in November and votes for Torrico, then the only way he can be beat if every Republican and nonaffiliated voter goes to vote and votes for the Nishimura guy. This isn't likely, but what is likely is that only a small percentage of registered voters will vote, and that's how we might have a chance to help the challenger. We just have to get more voters who are sick of Torrico to go vote than voters who will support Torrico.

So, anyone here a registered Republican in district 20 and can get some info on this Nishimura guy?