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Anchors
12-27-2010, 10:53 PM
New one. With a lot of interesting marks. Almost every piece of metal including every piece of the bolt is stamped with something. Many are just numbers inside diamonds (probably batch numbers), but the rest seem strange/cool.
1943 Tula. It has the ex-sniper marks, but I don't see any holes. So I'm not sure.
My favorite parts are the little star under the sight and the little star on the left button of the sight adjustment.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1087/dscf1570u.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/dscf1570u.jpg/)

Little bow and arrow. Looks cool.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6271/dscf1572l.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/dscf1572l.jpg/)

M?
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1453/dscf1576w.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/dscf1576w.jpg/)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5889/dscf1582p.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/dscf1582p.jpg/)

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/55/dscf1584s.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/dscf1584s.jpg/)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3261/dscf1587o.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/dscf1587o.jpg/)

Anchors
12-27-2010, 10:53 PM
C?
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9/dscf1591.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/dscf1591.jpg/)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8162/dscf1592v.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/dscf1592v.jpg/)

Little star on the left button.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7250/dscf1593n.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/dscf1593n.jpg/)

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3437/dscf1594iu.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/dscf1594iu.jpg/)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8032/dscf1595b.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/dscf1595b.jpg/)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2819/dscf1599n.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/dscf1599n.jpg/)

Anchors
12-27-2010, 10:54 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5985/dscf1605t.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/dscf1605t.jpg/)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9403/dscf1606u.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/dscf1606u.jpg/)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9387/dscf1608s.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/dscf1608s.jpg/)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3269/dscf1609a.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/dscf1609a.jpg/)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7016/dscf1610w.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/dscf1610w.jpg/)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3342/dscf1611g.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/dscf1611g.jpg/)

Anchors
12-27-2010, 10:55 PM
And of course, everything you need to survive WWII comrade.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9621/dscf1612ny.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/dscf1612ny.jpg/)

Flyin Brian
12-27-2010, 11:19 PM
That's definitely one that got plenty of stamps on it. I've never noticed a stamp on the sight adjuster button like that, good catch.

I like the corn holder thing in the pic too, is that your back up weapon? :D

16in50calNavalRifle
12-28-2010, 12:01 AM
Brass end-caps on the handguard? At least I never see those, especially on regular war-time refurbs. That seems unusual (and nice). There are an endless variety of mysterious proof marks on these Mosins - and I have yet to see any explanations or definitions (I refer to the numerous small stamps, not the well-known ones like the date, arsenal, and Ukraine refurb cartouche on the stock). Probably will never be known - unless the Tula and Izhevsk archives are intact, and someone gets in and digs out the answers ...

Anchors
12-28-2010, 2:29 AM
That's definitely one that got plenty of stamps on it. I've never noticed a stamp on the sight adjuster button like that, good catch.

I like the corn holder thing in the pic too, is that your back up weapon? :D

Yeah I thought that one was pretty cool.
Hahaha no that is my tool to scrape shellac out of tiny places it shouldn't be in. But it would be a pretty decent back up weapon against a small child or a wild piece of rabid corn. :D

Brass end-caps on the handguard? At least I never see those, especially on regular war-time refurbs. That seems unusual (and nice). There are an endless variety of mysterious proof marks on these Mosins - and I have yet to see any explanations or definitions (I refer to the numerous small stamps, not the well-known ones like the date, arsenal, and Ukraine refurb cartouche on the stock). Probably will never be known - unless the Tula and Izhevsk archives are intact, and someone gets in and digs out the answers ...

I've seen brass caps before, I always wanted them haha.
Yeah I was thinking about why they were unknown while I was cleaning (for four hours, I love Cosmoline), then I remembered that shortly after WWII we didn't exactly have great open communication with Soviet Russia. That would be awesome if they were archived somewhere. I would really like to know what they all mean.
I've seen the ones on 7.62x54r, but all the weird ones out there are really interesting.
Mosins sure are great. I'm going to be sad when there are no more historic $100 rifles left.

CDFingers
12-28-2010, 4:59 AM
You can find out what some of the stamps mean here:

http://7.62x54r.net/

Nice rifle.

CDFingers

laika
12-28-2010, 8:04 AM
I haven't seen those brass caps before.

Let us know how it shoots! Congrats.

SVT_Fox
12-28-2010, 11:50 AM
that one is tatted up proper! and i think those brass parts are super early..

luckystrike
12-28-2010, 1:19 PM
Tula and Izhevsk frankenmosin? awesome:)

novabrian
12-28-2010, 1:39 PM
I have those same corn cob holders.

Anchors
12-28-2010, 4:05 PM
Tula and Izhevsk frankenmosin? awesome:)

Looks like when the Ukrainians refurbished it they put an Izhevsk bolt in it. (Aside from the serialized piece). Some pre-1928 (bow and arrow) some post-1928 (arrow in triangle).
Pretty interesting.

Anchors
12-28-2010, 7:48 PM
I have those same corn cob holders.

They are mil-spec; polymer with stainless skewers.
Lol. I remember my grandma having them at her house when I was about 5. She still has them, too.
They get the job done pretty well (though I never saw a use for them when I was younger).

Interloper
12-28-2010, 8:03 PM
Funny how a pre-28 firing pin can show up in a '43 GPW Special. Good pics.

IronCobra
12-28-2010, 8:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a "C" stamp indicates Serbian arsenal/service.
C is the Cyrillic letter for S. It also has a Ukraine arsenal refurbishment mark.

finloq
12-29-2010, 5:56 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a "C" stamp indicates Serbian arsenal/service.
C is the Cyrillic letter for S. It also has a Ukraine arsenal refurbishment mark.

No. The 'C' 'H' is the Tula mark for a sniper.
Cyrillic 'CN' translates to 'SN'.
Is it an ex-sniper (welded over holes in the chamber from the scope mount)? Or an almost sniper, they needed alot more regular rifles in 1943 than snipers?
They designated some rifles to be snipers that either failed along the line or for some other reason became standard 91/30's; but most with that mark were snipers at some point.

finloq
12-29-2010, 5:57 AM
Here is an article on a similar ex-sniper.
http://7.62x54r.net/Forums/index.php?topic=8953.0

Anchors
12-29-2010, 5:58 AM
No. The 'C' 'H' is the Tula mark for a sniper.
Cyrillic 'CN' translates to 'SN'.
Is it an ex-sniper (welded over holes in the chamber from the scope mount)? Or an almost sniper, they needed alot more regular rifles in 1943 than snipers?
They designated some rifles to be snipers that either failed along the line or for some other reason became standard 91/30's; but most with that mark were snipers at some point.

I think it was an almost sniper haha.
I think he knows about the barrel shank markings.
I think he is referring to the "C" stamped in the stock.

finloq
12-29-2010, 6:10 AM
Ahh, I missed the mark. Sorry.
Still, the Serbian 'C's and the Soviet 'C's are very different looking.
Best I could find in pictures.

Soviet
Serbian

Interloper
12-29-2010, 10:05 AM
I've seen that "C" mark in that exact same spot before. I wonder if it's actually a tool mark from the stock finishing process?

Haggar85
12-29-2010, 10:22 AM
i have the C on my stock too. i think its an acceptance stamp of some sort.

Anchors
12-29-2010, 12:38 PM
Hmm.
I say we write a letter the motherland asking for confirmation on all these mosin marks on 7.62x54r.com that are unknown.

IronCobra
12-29-2010, 6:30 PM
C stamp could also be some type of inspector mark. I've only seen Imperial era Serbian marks, not even sure about the soviet era. I'm interested in the marks on the top of the tang. Its difficult for me to make them out, Can you describe them ?

Also Sometimes the barrel and receiver do not match or were matched at a later date. Have you checked the bottom of the tang? I have quite a few mosin's that have different barrel and tang stamps.

Anchors
12-30-2010, 12:57 AM
C stamp could also be some type of inspector mark. I've only seen Imperial era Serbian marks, not even sure about the soviet era. I'm interested in the marks on the top of the tang. Its difficult for me to make them out, Can you describe them ?

Also Sometimes the barrel and receiver do not match or were matched at a later date. Have you checked the bottom of the tang? I have quite a few mosin's that have different barrel and tang stamps.

Pictures included.
Sorry my camera has a terrible macro setting.

I included a rough illustration of what is going on "untitled.jpg" below.