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tacticalcity
12-27-2010, 3:20 PM
Updated: Added Peirce Grip Enhancer (finger grooves), a Wilson Combat Magwell, and picked up a Wilson Combat 8 Rd Magazine (in the well) and several Chip McCormick 10-Rd Power Mags (one shown). The holster and mag pouch are both Don Hume. I am not a huge fan of leather holsters (too much grip) but custom kydex can get pretty expensive, especially the ones that conceal carry as well as leather. So I need decide on whether or not I want to add a Novak rail before investing in it. Also deciding on whether to add night sights, or just 3-dot sights. The all black sights are a little slower for me. I am not used to them. I've always used 3-dot in one form or another on my handguns. The knife is a new CRKT MINI MY TIGH spring assisted knife I just picked up. Great little knife.

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I struggled with the decision of which 1911 I wanted to buy for my very first one. So forgive me while annoy you with my decision making process (only the real process was much more annoying and complicated).

I've been a 1911 fan for a while, considering them and Glocks the best option for a primary self defense handgun. But I've never owned my own, just tried out my buddies and drooled from afar.

I wanted to start off with a Kimber Pro Carry. But I could not find one new for the price I wanted, or used in a condition I would accept.

Then I looked at Rock Islands. Excellent price, and their owners swear by their quality, but my ego just wouldn't let me commit to buying one.

I had settled on buying a Springfield GI Champion and just upgrading it with Wilson Combat Parts, and even ordered a bunch of parts to do so (which I will either return to my supplier for a full refund or sell here on Calguns) but then I found a Kimber for a price I could afford so I bought it.

Gently used Kimber Custom II.

If the actual quality matches the pictures, and there is nothing wrong with it, then I got an excellent deal. I'll find out later this week when my dealer receives and I can inspect it.

There is nothing all that special about the Custom II. It is Kimber's least expensive entry level 1911. Still, I have been drooling over them for some time now. They come with some nice bells and whistles, and in my opinion are damn sexy for a combat pistol. New they were running about $150 more than I paid for this used one. And if it is really in this good of condition, I consider that a good deal.

The real question will be how well it conceals. I might just end up having to buy a Rock Island Compact after all, to be a companion to this one, if I find the full 5" 1911 too much of pain to carry. But I am certain it will come in handy for all the tactical courses I love taking from www.StoneCobraTactical.com here in Sacramento.

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fullspeed1
12-27-2010, 3:54 PM
Congrats, I went from this
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/fullspeed1/MarksBlackberry013.jpg

To this
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/fullspeed1/MarksBlackberry007-2.jpg
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The magwell and gips made a big difference, And it shoots perfect. I am amazed at how many people knock Kimber's, Mine has shot all my handloads without any issues with Wilson 47d's, Kim pro tacmags and even the stock mag. It's a great production 1911 under $800, With a lot of upgraded features. I love it, And the price allowed me to have a very nice 1911 added to my collection. But, My Glock 19's are still my go-to's for sure.

GUNFREAK
12-27-2010, 3:59 PM
That's a great price for a great gun. I think you'll have a lot of fun shooting it. I love shooting my Kimber.

i<3HK
12-27-2010, 3:59 PM
nice!

den888
12-27-2010, 4:29 PM
Congrats!

stormvet
12-27-2010, 4:45 PM
congrats and welcome to the 1911 world.

415shooter
12-27-2010, 4:46 PM
I will have to look at the custom II's more. I LOVE the TLE/RL II, but they are a bit $$$ for me. Good find

glockman19
12-27-2010, 4:50 PM
Congrats...Great price. My first 1911 was also a Kimber Custom II.

tacticalcity
12-27-2010, 4:50 PM
You can always add a rail later.

Brownells has a rather streamlined rail made by Novak available for only $60, but you have to get it intalled. I think it looks just as sexy. Unlike a lot of other aftermarket rail options, it looks like it was always there.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=27001/Product/1911_AUTO_TACTICAL_LIGHT_RAIL

http://novaksights.com/products/lightrails.html#instruction

http://spinstage.http.internapcdn.net/Spinstage/userdocs/products/p_662000078_1.jpg

http://novaksights.com/assets/images/lightrail/rail0011.jpg

http://novaksights.com/assets/images/lightrail/railnaname.jpg

Heiko
12-27-2010, 5:08 PM
Nice find! The price seems good for the condition of that gun too. I'm still trying to decide if I'll bite on the same model Kimber that is sitting at my dealer on a hold. These 1911s are addictive!

roushstage3
12-27-2010, 5:08 PM
Very nice purchase. You are going to be happy with it. I love my Kimber and want to get a second one.

fullspeed1
12-27-2010, 5:09 PM
You can always add a rail later.

Brownells has a rather streamlined rail made by Novak available for only $60, but you have to get it intalled. I think it looks just as sexy. Unlike a lot of other aftermarket rail options, it looks like it was always there.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=27001/Product/1911_AUTO_TACTICAL_LIGHT_RAIL

http://novaksights.com/products/lightrails.html#instruction

http://spinstage.http.internapcdn.net/Spinstage/userdocs/products/p_662000078_1.jpg

http://novaksights.com/assets/images/lightrail/rail0011.jpg

http://novaksights.com/assets/images/lightrail/railnaname.jpg

Very clean look

tacticalcity
12-27-2010, 5:29 PM
Very clean look

Especially compared to some of the options out there. I have got to assume the above option would work with the integral rail lydex holsters like those from Blade-Tech, and Safariland. I know some of the larger rails won't.

702Shooter
12-27-2010, 5:55 PM
You can't go wrong with a Kimber, especially when you get it at a great price.

My first 1911 was a Kimber TLE-RLII. I traded it off a number of years ago and missed it so much that I bought another. This one isn't going anywhere.

morrcarr67
12-27-2010, 6:20 PM
Congrats on your new/used 1911. I'm sure you'll like it. And, I like the way you are already looking at your next 1911. :D

HowardW56
12-27-2010, 6:26 PM
I struggled with the decision of which 1911 I wanted to buy for my very first one. So forgive me while annoy you with my decision making process (only the real process was much more annoying and complicated).

I've been a 1911 fan for a while, considering them and Glocks the best option for a primary self defense handgun. I've never owned my own, just tried out my buddies and drooled from afar.

My first 1911 was a old Colt Combat Commander, I bought it new in the early 80's. I traded it for a new 6" model 29, I wish I had just bought the model 29.. But....

I have a Custom II, great gun, the only thing I have done was remove the full legnth guide rod...

Once you shoot it for a while, you'll want another... I now have the Custom II, a TLE/Custom II, and a Eclipse...

Enjoy

tacticalcity
12-28-2010, 12:08 AM
Getting all new Kydex gear is next on the list.

MontClaire
12-28-2010, 12:37 AM
Let me know if you have a smith who can install that rail for my kimber tactical pro. thanks.

DaveFJ80
12-28-2010, 12:59 AM
You can always add a rail later.




In another thread, I posted pics side by side with my TLE/RL and a Kimber Custom II with a Novak rail. While you can install a rail onto a non-railed 1911 and still have it look clean, the problem is the actual position of the rail is lower now and so will your light and switch/controls. IMO, it's very natural for me to reach the TLR-1s light switch on my TLE/RL, where as when I put the same light onto a Custom II with the Novak rail, the switch was a lot lower and required a stretch of my index finger to reach for it. Also, it dropped my finger from next to my trigger guard so if I really needed to pull the trigger in a situation, I would need to move my finger back up from the light and into the trigger... not so with the TLE/RL since the switch is at the same level as the trigger.

For most people, this won't matter as you can get used to whatever setup that you're going for. But for me, the light position on both my TLE/RL and Glock 19 are pretty much exactly the same for me (same movement, same position of the light switch relative to the trigger), and that is very important to me if I shoot either one side by side. I'm used either gun in a low-light scenario, but I've trained with the G19 in a low light course, and going to with the Kimber this Spring.


Just my opinion about aftermarket rails on 1911 frames. Otherwise, nice pickup on the Custom II.

tacticalcity
12-28-2010, 10:28 AM
In the grand scheme it seems pretty minor. I suppose if you've never had the luxury, you probably won't miss it. There are so few rail models on the CA list, and they are all a pretty penny. Both bargain hunters like myself, and people with a bug up their rear for a specific high-end brand light Nighthawk and the like may find themselves making the best of whatever they can afford. So while the Novak rail may not be perfect, it sure beats a tick rail.

I am not sure I am even going to add a rail. It is just one possiblity of many tweaks that may or may not happen over time. Right now I am just happy to have found a Kimber I could actually afford.

Just got off the phone with the dealer. He has my paperwork, and credit card information, and it will ship to my FFL today.

Swoop
12-28-2010, 10:32 AM
That was my first 1911 as well, I should have kept it. After about 400-500 rounds it was 100% reliabile. I got went through 2x TLE II models which I was not so lucky with.

Enjoy !

tacticalcity
12-29-2010, 1:01 AM
I take a lot of training courses. Both handgun courses, and carbine courses where you use the handgun as a secondary and shoot it just almost as much as your primary. I expect to shoot 200-400 handgun rounds per training day routinely. So if there are any issues, they should rear their ugly head pretty darn quickly.

Since I plug them every chance I get, up here in Sacramento www.StoneCobraTactical.com offers affordable high-end training. I have an excellent time and learn something new with every course I take from them. Great guys, great courses. Hence my plugging them on at least 50% of my posts.

ZX-10R
12-29-2010, 6:37 AM
Great choice. It was between the Custom II and M&P 45...I went the M&P 45 but the Custom II is a gun that will be mine one day...If I cannot find a Beretta M9...Then the Custom II is next up.

Congrats!

tacticalcity
12-29-2010, 11:00 AM
I've owned the Beretta before, skip it. Nightmare trigger/action.

Already ordered a bunch of accessories for this handgun.

- A couple Chip McCormick 10RD Power Mags
- Wilson Combat Magazine Well
- Wilson Combat Shok-Buffs
- Wilson Combat Bushing Wrench for taking it down and not getting the idiot mark
- Don Hume Concealment Holster
- Don Hume Mag Pouch

Plan to order a Blade-Tech Kydex Training Holster / Pouch combo pack and night sights soon. Might need to order some non-tappered grips as well depending on how the magwell looks with the existing grips.

Was just emailed the tracking # on this handgun and half the accessories, ordered the other half a little bit ago.

xMAC1x
12-29-2010, 11:46 AM
1911 damn that is an old model. Welcome to the family just plain timeless. It is fun going to Angeles range & dinging swinging the plates 35 & 50 yards 230gr.

1911_sfca
12-29-2010, 11:48 AM
Good choice. The gun looks very clean. Buy it and shoot the *!@$ out of it.

Don't add a rail. It's more of a pure 1911 this way. If you want a rail gun, just save up and buy another one!!

stphnman20
12-29-2010, 11:52 AM
Kimber Custom II is such a handsome gun!! I love mine!

fullspeed1
12-29-2010, 11:57 AM
Tac, The Wilson Combat bushing wrench isn't going to save you from the idiot mark. Technically you can use any non metallic item to remove your bushing. The idiot mark is caused by carelessly re-installing your slide stop.

tacticalcity
12-29-2010, 12:43 PM
I assumed that if there was NO spring pressure on the slide-stop it would not slip and scratch the frame, and that trying to remove or install it while under spring pressure was what caused it to slip and scratch. So getting the spring out before even touching the slide stop would make it a non-issue. Either way, the tool was like $3 wholesale, so it is no big deal.

Guess I'll have to learn by doing. What little experience I have with 1911s is from shooting other people's. This is my first of my very own.

bsg
12-29-2010, 12:47 PM
congratulations on your Kimber.

FredoSD
12-29-2010, 1:18 PM
Color me "jelous"

B Strong
12-29-2010, 1:18 PM
As long as it runs 100%, you found a great deal for the money.

I've found that the 5" Kimbers seems to run better than the shorter versions, but ymmv.

rips31
12-29-2010, 4:00 PM
congrats. i love mine, altho it has the external extractor.

railroader
12-29-2010, 5:16 PM
I assumed that if there was NO spring pressure on the slide-stop it would not slip and scratch the frame, and that trying to remove or install it while under spring pressure was what caused it to slip and scratch. So getting the spring out before even touching the slide stop would make it a non-issue. Either way, the tool was like $3 wholesale, so it is no big deal.

Guess I'll have to learn by doing. What little experience I have with 1911s is from shooting other people's. This is my first of my very own.

Very nice kimber. I have an older kimber custom 1 that just runs and runs. As for using the wrench cock the hammer and put on the safety. That will keep the slide from moving. Use your wrench to turn the bushing being careful not to launch the plug. Once the plug is out take the safety off and pull the slide back until the notch lines up so you can push the slide stop out. When you go to put the slide back on make sure the link on the barrel is facing about 7 o'clock. Slide the slide, barrel and guide rod onto the frame and watch for when the link hole and the hole in the frame line. Put the slide stop part way in the hole and bring the slide back carefully until the notch lines up so the stop can go in. This is how I push it in. First I lay the gun down flat. I grab the stop with my thumb and 1st finger of my left hand to hold the stop so it can't swing and cause the dreaded scratch then I push it in with my right thumb. You might need to wiggle the stop very slightly but don't let go of it with your left hand until it goes in. Some stops are harder than others to get in.This has worked for me and I haven't got the scratch in 10 years (knock on wood). Once you get the slide stop in put slide forward and put on the safety. Reinstall your spring, push in your plug the turn the bushing and you are done.

tacticalcity
12-30-2010, 1:17 PM
So I started the DROS paperwork today and got to inspect it. It is in amazing shape for the money. There is a hint of a faint idiot mark, which is a plus because I would feel really guilty if I were the first to put on their. It is barely there at all however.

Even though I was expecting it to be heavier than I am used to (being a Glock guy) I have to admit the weight did catch me a little off guard. I know it will help with recoil, but it is gonna be a bear on the hip. Gonna have to sinch that belt tight to support it.

Other than that I could not be more pleased with the first inspection. Can't wait to get her on the range and test her out.

This is going to be a very long 10-days!

tacticalcity
12-30-2010, 1:27 PM
Very nice purchase. You are going to be happy with it. I love my Kimber and want to get a second one.

Trade you for your airplane! Man that is nice. The car isn't bad either. You're doin' just fine, brother.

para38super
12-30-2010, 1:46 PM
The idiot scratch is done during reassembly not during take down. Ask me how I know.:)


I put an idiot scratch on my brand new Colt XSE (was also my first 1911), but luckily it was the stainless steel version so it was easy to fix.

bsg
12-30-2010, 2:11 PM
So I started the DROS paperwork today and got to inspect it. It is in amazing shape for the money.

This is going to be a very long 10-days!


great find, great deal, long wait! but it's yours.

jimmykan
12-30-2010, 2:17 PM
The Custom II or Stainless II is all you need.

From what I can tell, the TLE just adds front strap checkering, which is nice, but not "$200 extra" nice.

And the TLE/RL just adds a dust cover rail on top of that, right? ... I don't think 1911s should have the dust cover rail. Beavertail grip safeties and barely-there magwells, fine, but the dust cover rail changes the pistol's original silhouette too much, in my opinion.

tacticalcity
12-30-2010, 3:28 PM
Also found out the FFL I have been using for many years is retiring and closing up shop. Now I need to find another semi-retired guy to do my transfers for me. :(

zdragon
12-30-2010, 3:34 PM
here's mine CII...definitely a keeper.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5540/p1050802j.jpg
By zdagon52 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/zdagon52) at 2010-12-29

tacticalcity
01-06-2011, 2:45 PM
I am going a little stir crazy during the 10 day DROS, which I found out will be a 14 day wait since my FFL who is in the process of retiring will not be in the office until next Thursday. On day 7 now.

No upset with my FFL or anything. He has always been good to me and I understand wanted to slow things down and retire. I'm just anxious to take this baby to the range.

kahai808
01-06-2011, 2:59 PM
Man $600, that a good buy to me!!!!

DArBad
01-06-2011, 3:00 PM
Tacticalcity,
Congratulations on the very good purchase of the Kimber Custom II. Like you, I've been wanting one for YEARS! I used to have 4 Colts and 4 Springfield Armory's. I've since sold off all the Colts, and kept 2 of my Springfields.

I was able to to buy a pristine, used Kimber Custom II from a fellow Calgunner here and I am thankful that he sold it to me. It is now my favorite piece together with my Beretta 92fs.

In the future, I am planning to buy a few more Kimbers. Again, congrats and have fun with your Kimber!

PS: I am also thankful that " zdragon " above on post#41 and others like " glockman 19 " or something like that, guided me to the Kimber.

morrcarr67
01-06-2011, 3:23 PM
Also found out the FFL I have been using for many years is retiring and closing up shop. Now I need to find another semi-retired guy to do my transfers for me. :(

Why don't you get your FFL and ask the guy who is retiring if he'll tell all his current customers about you, ready made business :)

No more paying someone else to do a transfer and people will now be paying you :D

tacticalcity
01-11-2011, 3:06 PM
Is it Thursday yet?

tacticalcity
01-13-2011, 12:37 PM
Finally got her out of DROS jail. Looking forward to getting off work tonight and getting her cleaned up. Hopefully I will get a chance to hit the range with her this weekend.

para38super
01-18-2011, 8:24 PM
Finally got her out of DROS jail. Looking forward to getting off work tonight and getting her cleaned up. Hopefully I will get a chance to hit the range with her this weekend.

Where are the pics bro...

socal425
01-18-2011, 8:42 PM
Congrats...new to the 1911 world myself. Six more days of jail time for my SA MC Operator.

tomtom7
01-18-2011, 9:31 PM
Great choice, I have one of them and haven't had any problems. Works and feels great.

joea
01-18-2011, 9:33 PM
Congrats on your 1911. I know you'll enjoy it as I do enjoy mine. Whoa nice job fullspeed1 those grips are very nice too.
I have a Blackhawk Serpa CQC holster, 4 Chip McCormick 10rd power mags, & Blade-Tech's quad mag pouch.:thumbsup:
http://www.blade-tech.com/Quad-Mag-Pouch-w-Tek-Lok-pr-1017.html

kahai808
01-18-2011, 9:34 PM
pics, pics!!!!!

tacticalcity
02-01-2011, 9:47 AM
Updated pic:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/tacticalcity/IMG_0643.jpg

X-NewYawker
02-01-2011, 9:57 AM
Congrats! My "go to" 1911 --

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/handguns/KimberAnswer.jpg

Alumigrips thin grips, Novak sights and Answer that replaces grip safety --

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/handguns/AnswerBack1.jpg

AleksT
02-01-2011, 9:58 AM
Very nice choice. I have a Kimber Custom Classic (90s vintage) and I've been extremely happy with mine.

S dot
02-01-2011, 10:33 AM
Scratches on a 1911? I thought that was called character.

tacticalcity
02-03-2011, 4:23 PM
Ha ha, she's up for sale already. That is so me. Don't worry, another 1911 will be back in the collection soon. Got a bug up my rear for something and need to fund it.

para38super
02-03-2011, 6:46 PM
Ha ha, she's up for sale already. That is so me. Don't worry, another 1911 will be back in the collection soon. Got a bug up my rear for something and need to fund it.

Selling the Kimber already? Were you not satisfied with it?