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mlancaster
12-27-2010, 9:30 AM
Hey All,

Im new to reloading and bought some bullets kinda cheap they are .40 180gr made by Rainier. Per Rainier these bullets should be loaded to lead bullet specs. even though they are FMJ. However, I cannot find a 180 gr lead bullet load data for any powder out there for .40-180gr only for 185gr bullets. I dont want to overcharge and blow up or undercharge and get a bullet stuck in the barrel...how do i load this are there any of you reloadig folks outh there that can help me.....i know reloading can be dangerous if not done correctly....i dont want to screw it up....please help :confused:

Oceanbob
12-27-2010, 10:14 AM
First off Rainier bullets are not Jacketed. They are plated. Looking at my Lyman #49 Reloading Handbook under 10MM (which I load)..I can see plenty of recipes for 175 Grain Lead (alloy). Not 180 certainly but close enough that you could back off a bit and work up a good load.

What powder are you using...and .40 or 10mm?

Oceanbob
12-27-2010, 10:19 AM
Shows that our own CHIEF-7700 ( a great resource) posted an obsolete Rainier Data sheet as a PDF file on another forum. You will have to register on the forum to read the file;but you will find the info you seek.

SCROLL down to post #21 for Chief-7700 info.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=317439

Bill Steele
12-27-2010, 10:48 AM
Hey All,

Im new to reloading and bought some bullets kinda cheap they are .40 180gr made by Rainier. Per Rainier these bullets should be loaded to lead bullet specs. even though they are FMJ. However, I cannot find a 180 gr lead bullet load data for any powder out there for .40-180gr only for 185gr bullets. I dont want to overcharge and blow up or undercharge and get a bullet stuck in the barrel...how do i load this are there any of you reloadig folks outh there that can help me.....i know reloading can be dangerous if not done correctly....i dont want to screw it up....please help :confused:

Looking at my Lee book, there are 8 different brand powders with loads for 180 gr. .40 S&W bullets in lead and copper plated.

What powder do you favor?

mlancaster
12-27-2010, 11:28 AM
Looking at my Lee book, there are 8 different brand powders with loads for 180 gr. .40 S&W bullets in lead and copper plated.

What powder do you favor?

Which Lee book do you have?

Bill Steele
12-27-2010, 11:46 AM
Which Lee book do you have?

I have the second edition, it has loads for the Lead/Plated 180's for Accurate (9.5.7,2), Universal, Power Pistol, Unique, Amer-Select, etc.

If you have one of those powders already, I can post what the book says.

mlancaster
12-27-2010, 12:07 PM
I have the second edition, it has loads for the Lead/Plated 180's for Accurate (9.5.7,2), Universal, Power Pistol, Unique, Amer-Select, etc.

If you have one of those powders already, I can post what the book says.

unique would be good....my local shop has that powder

Bill Steele
12-27-2010, 12:22 PM
unique would be good....my local shop has that powder

OK, the .40 S&W, Unique load for a 180 gr. lead bullet in Lee Second Edition reads as follows:

Start: 5.2gr - 919fps, Max: 5.5 gr - 973fps, Min. OAL - 1.125

Chief-7700
12-27-2010, 12:24 PM
A blast from the past.

stormvet
12-27-2010, 1:04 PM
I have used Rainier plated bullets for a long time, they are my favorite low cost training bullets. I like them more then Barry's. I have loaded and shot thousands of Rainier bullets in 9mm, .40 and .45 without any problems. They are plated not jacketed but I shoot them out of Glocks and Kahrs with no problems, I do clean all my weapons after each range outing though so there is no chance of lead build up. The last 180g Rainier I reloaded was 4.8g of W231 with a COL of 1.125.

mlancaster
12-27-2010, 1:20 PM
thx all....im gonna pick up that lee book pretty soon.


I was interested in loading up 45 and 9 too does the book have that data as well?

Triple R Munitions
12-27-2010, 3:18 PM
even though the projo's are plated, you can still load them "hotter" then a lead load....i run 40sw at 4.3gr of TITEGROUP at around 1050 fps. my 9mm plated is at 1150 fps at 4.3gr of tite. and 45 is 810fps at 4.9gr of tite.

hornaday/sierra manual is good too...

R

Corbin Dallas
12-27-2010, 5:53 PM
unique would be good....my local shop has that powder

I run Unique @ 5.5g with a OAL of 1.125 under a 180g Bear Creak Moly coated lead.


These chrono at 870 out of my G23

Bill Steele
12-27-2010, 9:53 PM
thx all....im gonna pick up that lee book pretty soon.


I was interested in loading up 45 and 9 too does the book have that data as well?

Sure, on the 9mm there are fewer Unique loads, so if you have not bought the bullets yet, I can tell you the bullets that have Unique loads in 9 (in the Lee book). The .45 ACP has a lot more Unique loads, but again some bullets are not listed with Unique.

The best way is to get a couple of books (I like Lee as he puts the volume and pressure in as well as the weight and has a lot of loads, Lyman is also good), some have loads others don't and on the loads that are dups, you get to double check for typo's.

spoolnaround
01-01-2011, 8:13 PM
.40
155 gr Rainer RS
6gr Power Pistol

Good accurate load out of my G-23.

bruceflinch
01-02-2011, 7:36 AM
I have used Rainier plated bullets for a long time, they are my favorite low cost training bullets. I like them more then Barry's. I have loaded and shot thousands of Rainier bullets in 9mm, .40 and .45 without any problems. They are plated not jacketed but I shoot them out of Glocks and Kahrs with no problems, I do clean all my weapons after each range outing though so there is no chance of lead build up. The last 180g Rainier I reloaded was 4.8g of W231 with a COL of 1.125.

I like the Rainer's much better than Berry's too.