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ebourqui
07-26-2006, 10:41 PM
Looking into gun safes, I see that the Sentry Safe G0135 (http://www.sentrysafe.com/Products.asp?r=30&s=178) is advertised as "Meets California Department of Justice standards for firearm safety", but it seems to me that it falls short in at least 2 places with regard to the California safe affidavit (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/gsaff.pdf):

1) Affidavit says "Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts...", but the G0135 has "2 live-locking bolts"

2) Affidavit says "...which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.", but the G0135 has no separate handle; it only has the key, which serves as both the lock-opener, and the handle, i.e. there is no lock and handle, just a lock.

Your thoughts?

EvolutionGSR
07-26-2006, 10:54 PM
The G0135 is a model that is listed on the CA DOJ roster.

ebourqui
07-26-2006, 11:16 PM
That's absolutely correct, the G0135 is listed on the CA DOJ site as approved for use with 'Any firearm up to 55" in overall length' (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/allmakes.pdf, page 849 and http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/chart.pdf, page 6). It just seems a bit odd that someone signing a safe affidavit will be under the impression that the G0135 meets all the requirements set forth in that affidavit, when it in fact does not.

chiefcrash
08-09-2006, 9:07 AM
DOJ regulatory standards require a gun safe to meet either:

All of the following requirements:
1. Shall be able to fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage.
2. Shall have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters, or symbols. The lock shall be protected by a case-hardened (Rc 60+) drill-resistant steel plate, or drill-resistant material of equivalent strength.
3. Boltwork shall consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least ˝ inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe, which are operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock.
4. Shall be capable of repeated use. The exterior walls shall be constructed of a minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single-walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least .100 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum of two layers of 12-gauge steel, or one layer of 7-gauge steel compound construction.
5. Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.

or

All of the following requirements:
1. Is listed as an Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container;
2. Is able to fully contain firearms;
3. Provides for the secure storage of firearms.

I'm guessing it's the Underwriters Laboratories variety...

Librarian
08-13-2006, 1:50 PM
That's absolutely correct, the G0135 is listed on the CA DOJ site as approved for use with 'Any firearm up to 55" in overall length' (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/allmakes.pdf, page 849 and http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/chart.pdf, page 6). It just seems a bit odd that someone signing a safe affidavit will be under the impression that the G0135 meets all the requirements set forth in that affidavit, when it in fact does not.So, presuming you have a receipt, don't sign the top one - sign the bottom one that says Affidavit Stating Ownership of a DOJ-Certified Lock Box
(This affidavit applies only to lock boxes listed on the Roster of Firearms Safety Devices Certified for Sale and is not valid for any other type of firearms safety device. Firearms Dealer: This affidavit is only valid when accompanied by a receipt.)