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doc540
12-26-2010, 5:43 PM
When I opened the box it looked like this '78 GC might have been fired before.

Since I'd never shot one, I went ahead and murdered some paper with it.

How do you decide whether to shoot or not shoot?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/goldcup3-2.jpg

RollingCode3
12-26-2010, 5:45 PM
Shooting is fun. If you want to collect, then start collecting coins. :83:

roushstage3
12-26-2010, 5:46 PM
I know people like to collect, but guns were made to be fired. I say shoot. Its like car collectors. Cars were made to run. Letting them sit is wasting them.

Just my opinion.

rimfire78
12-26-2010, 6:08 PM
Im having the same dilema

vintagearms
12-26-2010, 6:17 PM
I know people like to collect, but guns were made to be fired. I say shoot. Its like car collectors. Cars were made to run. Letting them sit is wasting them.

Just my opinion.

This exactly.

Synergy
12-26-2010, 6:19 PM
Shoot it, that 65k 1911 100 year commemorative is one to save and never shoot.

5.56Geo
12-26-2010, 6:21 PM
Unless its a presentation piece or a unfired pre-war I say shoot it.:D

sevensix2x51
12-26-2010, 6:22 PM
i wouldnt shoot that colt, personally.


it would give me wicked hammer bite.

doc540
12-26-2010, 6:32 PM
i wouldnt shoot that colt, personally.


it would give me wicked hammer bite.

Isn't that like a sabre scar to 1911 owners?:D

sevensix2x51
12-26-2010, 6:37 PM
ive still got scars from hammer bite (havent had a standard hammer/safety in like 5 years), so at this point, its just downright unpleasant. :)

honestly, i usually just shoot most of my purchases. if there is something thats just too nice to shoot, i wind up passing it on to a real collector who wont get it all muddy or something. except for my garand, its just waay too awesome to part with...

robcoe
12-26-2010, 6:45 PM
Unless it's something like an unfired, engraved gun in a presentation case, shoot it, thats what it was made to do.

Speedpower
12-26-2010, 7:24 PM
Both, Collect them so you can shoot them! :D

morrcarr67
12-26-2010, 8:37 PM
I collect. I shoot. I shoot the guns I collect. Unless you have more money then you know what to do with and can buy that $65k Colt I say shoot the one you got. :D

jdg30
12-26-2010, 8:53 PM
I don't have any guns that I don't shoot. I understand wanting to keep expensive guns in mint condition all locked up in a safe, but you only live once and can't take them with you so you might as well have some fun with them. I'd rather have an expensive gun I can shoot well instead of having one I'm afraid to shoot and never know what it was like.

ap3572001
12-26-2010, 9:04 PM
When I opened the box it looked like this '78 GC might have been fired before.

Since I'd never shot one, I went ahead and murdered some paper with it.

How do you decide whether to shoot or not shoot?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/goldcup3-2.jpg

For me it works like this: I own two types of handguns. The ones I carry off duty. SOME of them are collectible and hard to get . Guns like my three inch model 66 s&W or a three inch 686 CS-1 etc.

The others that I like to shoot. custom 1911, S&W 52, S&W 41 , Long slide Glock in 9mm set-up for competition etc.

Other than that I own maybe 2-3 handguns that I just like to have.

checkenbach
12-26-2010, 9:48 PM
I collect guns so that I can shoot them. No wall hangers or safe queens here.
I do have a family heirloom '27 model 12 that hasn't been shot in a while, may have to do that soon.

GUNFREAK
12-26-2010, 10:07 PM
The only gun I don't shoot is my 1903 springfield from CMP. It was advised by them not to shoot it because it's a "low number" '03 which the receiver was heated treated once which makes it vulnerable to cracking if fired. As much as I want to shoot it, I don't want to destroy such a beautiful collectable.

drunktank
12-26-2010, 10:18 PM
I view my firearms as tools and will never buy one to just put away and brag about.

I'n a situation like gunfreak's, I wouldn't shoot it.

JanG
12-26-2010, 10:50 PM
that's a very nice colt. i would love to shoot one of those. but i'm stuck shooting kimbers and rock islands :D

jackandblood
12-26-2010, 11:46 PM
Do the gun, its makers, it's craftmenship justice. Shoot it.

This of course does not apply to antiques.

Eddie1965
12-26-2010, 11:54 PM
+1 to all who said "collect to shoot"!

ZNinerFan
12-27-2010, 4:37 AM
For me, I am a shooter. If there are guns that I don't shoot often, then they get sold to make room for guns I will shoot. I would rather be that person with 1 gun who is darn good with it, then the person with 20 guns who is so-so with them.

I don't show off my guns to my friends and I don't really talk about guns much outside of Calguns. So if I am not shooting them, they serve no purpose to me.

If I want to see something historic or artistic I will go to a museum or look at some pictures on the internet.

There is nothing wrong with being a collector and if you have the money for it then more power to you. It's just not my thing.

PsychGuy274
12-27-2010, 5:25 AM
Unless it's THIS (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206871796) I'd say shoot.

But then again, I have a real bad habit of buying guns and then not having enough money for ammo. :D

dascoyne
12-27-2010, 6:17 AM
I shoot every gun I own except for a 1925 Colt Commercial 1911a1 and a 1945 Luger. They're both in pristine condition - the Colt unofficially appraised at $12k. Then there's my grandfather's S&W Model 10 which he probably only shot a few times if at all. It's essentially new in the box with all the papers - even the sales receipt. I may still shoot that one some day.

B Strong
12-27-2010, 6:38 AM
When I opened the box it looked like this '78 GC might have been fired before.

Since I'd never shot one, I went ahead and murdered some paper with it.

How do you decide whether to shoot or not shoot?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/goldcup3-2.jpg

This might be extravagant to some, but it's not a bad idea to have shooters and collectors - I have firearms that are NIB, with another example of the same piece as a shooter.

Usually I have the shooter before the collector.

If this isn't an option, I'd take into account the type, age and condition the firearm is in at the time of purchase - a pre-war NIB Smith would remain NIB, a shooter would not, and a newer NIB specimen would be on a case-by-case basis.

beerman
12-27-2010, 7:04 AM
This might be extravagant to some, but it's not a bad idea to have shooters and collectors - I have firearms that are NIB, with another example of the same piece as a shooter.

Usually I have the shooter before the collector.

If this isn't an option, I'd take into account the type, age and condition the firearm is in at the time of purchase - a pre-war NIB Smith would remain NIB, a shooter would not, and a newer NIB specimen would be on a case-by-case basis.

I agree , some mint collectables shouldnt be shot. I have some that I deem too valuable to shoot, but others as designated shooters. Ive shot my mint series70 GC twice. But I bought a sig 220 to do the heavy lifting.Same with the revolvers.The old colts dont get out much...the S&Ws get worked.Thats just me,to each his own

pkc168
12-27-2010, 8:59 AM
Guns are made to be shot. I would shoot any gun in my collection unless it is deemed unsafe. Could not afford the $65K colt anyways.

ZX-10R
12-27-2010, 9:41 AM
Shoot it...You could die tomorrow and that gun just sits there forever.

xenophobe
12-27-2010, 9:49 AM
I don't buy a gun that I can't shoot.

That's a pretty amazing GCNM. That's the kind you shoot maybe once or twice and just leave it alone. Unlike most guns, in 10 years, that gun should be worth considerably more. At one point those were going up in value $100-$150 a year. Unlike most hanguns, that is one that will appreciate in value.

Sell it and buy a Les Baer or something if you want a shooter.

Super Spy
12-27-2010, 9:57 AM
Both.....why limit yourself?

415shooter
12-27-2010, 9:59 AM
Shoot, shoot and shoot some more! Granted, I'm broke right now so I'm not. But I will be

slowjonn
12-27-2010, 10:21 AM
The only gun I have ever bought that I haven't and won't shoot is my John Wayne Commemorative Winchester.

Every other gun, and there have been A LOT, get shot at least a few times.

After that, some just sit, some become favorite shooters. I like to collect. I like to look at them and to me, they are like art.

I never buy a gun (except the JW) that I don't intend to shoot.

Fishslayer
12-27-2010, 10:51 AM
Did ya buy it to shoot it or as an investment?

Doesn't matter. It's not LNIB anymore. Might as well take it out & play with it some more!:D

SuperSet
12-27-2010, 11:01 AM
Shoot to collect trigger time. :)

redcliff
12-27-2010, 12:46 PM
Stick a solid barrel bushing in it (can order custom ones from EGW) to save the original collet bushing and shoot away. 78 Gold Cups aren't really rare and about the only part that can't be replaced readily is the collet bushing.

Very nice pick-up Doc, go have fun with it.

toby
12-27-2010, 1:06 PM
It's a happy go lucky Colt just shoot it!

Quinc
12-27-2010, 2:10 PM
I'm jealous that yours doesn't have "the scratch" on it. Great looking GC, I have shot almost 1000rds threw mine and I love it.

Colt
12-27-2010, 3:45 PM
Beautiful.

I have one I don't shoot - 1978 Colt Combat Commander in blue. Absolutely beautiful. Funny thing is, I bought it to shoot, it wasn't advertised as unfired, but when I got it I saw no evidence it had been fired. I got it for basically the same price I sold another 1978 that had been shot a lot and didn't have papers, box, etc. With this one I have the box, hang tag, papers, all the original stuff. Can't (yet) bring myself to shoot it.

Luckily, I have other things to occupy my time.

i<3HK
12-27-2010, 3:54 PM
shooot it :D

BillCA
12-27-2010, 4:11 PM
Makes me happy that so many people say "shoot it". That means the ones I have will be worth waaaay more in the coming years.

Unfortunately, I buy guns I really like and find it hard to part with them. It's almost as bad as selling your children or your dog. :p

I look at it this way... if the gun is in 98% condition or better and it's no longer made or easily available, don't shoot it unless you have a better specimen. This way you end up with a very collectable gun while you enjoy the others and can sell it to buy some plastic wondernine and shoot the snot out of that.

cannon
12-27-2010, 4:47 PM
I don't buy guns I can't shoot. I figure If I died with an unfired pristine gun in my collection some addled headed relative would take it out and shoot it. So why deny myself that pleasure first?

trashman
12-28-2010, 6:10 PM
How do you decide whether to shoot or not shoot?


Right now *time* is what dictates what I can and can't shoot. I've got a handful of guns I've bought in the last year that I just haven't had a chance to shoot due to a combination of weather and travel.

I have a couple of revolvers (http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee126/northslope/27-2/27-2_5-inch0004.jpg)that are nearly pristine - and so I won't shoot them very much...

Thing is, most guns will clean up just fine after shooting them. It's carrying them that adds the real wear.

--Neill

PS that's a gorgeous Colt. And I'd shoot it, too.

'09CTS-V&'87Turbo-T
12-28-2010, 6:26 PM
Shoot it, Samuel Colt will forgive you. If he had it, he would shoot it.
I would shoot it. If it was a very pristine pre-70 National Match, I'd shoot that too.

fullrearview
12-28-2010, 6:42 PM
Shoot it....JMB designed it for that purpose!