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TacticalChihuahua
12-22-2010, 10:15 PM
What is your favorite weapon mounted light for your handgun? WHY?

Is a laser really necessary?

1911Operator
12-22-2010, 10:19 PM
I like my Blackhawk xiphos NT light. They go in blackhawk holsters, they have a strobe selection, and its a blinding 90 lumen light. also, it only needs one 123 battery.

doubledgarage
12-22-2010, 10:20 PM
I really like my X300. It's very light, incredibly bright, strong construction.

I have a laser but I don't really use it anymore. When I first bought my gun, it was kinda cool and nice to know if you're flinching. Now, I'm just way faster with iron sights.

scootle
12-22-2010, 10:54 PM
I'm >< close to pulling the trigger on a Streamlight TLR-3 for my M&P9 (and maybe AR too). I honestly can't decide between the TLR-3 and TLR-1. Cost is almost a non-issue, both come in either at or under $100. Weight is one thing... the TLR-3 is *light* since it's mostly polymer, which could be a questionable thing. The TLR-1 has more output power and uses more easily-obtained CR123 cells though, so that is a big plus.

I might just suck it up and order one of each and be done with it. I don't know.

Surefire is bomb-proof, sure, but their stuff is just so expensive for what you get, I could get both the TLR-1 and TLR-3 like I mentioned and still be paying less cash than a single X300. I mean sheesh!

I'd be curious about other people's thoughts on their various flavors of weapon lights though.

hossb7
12-22-2010, 11:03 PM
X300

Heiko
12-22-2010, 11:06 PM
I'm >< close to pulling the trigger on a Streamlight TLR-3 for my M&P9 (and maybe AR too). I honestly can't decide between the TLR-3 and TLR-1. Cost is almost a non-issue, both come in either at or under $100. Weight is one thing... the TLR-3 is *light* since it's mostly polymer, which could be a questionable thing. The TLR-1 has more output power and uses more easily-obtained CR123 cells though, so that is a big plus.

I might just suck it up and order one of each and be done with it. I don't know.

Surefire is bomb-proof, sure, but their stuff is just so expensive for what you get, I could get both the TLR-1 and TLR-3 like I mentioned and still be paying less cash than a single X300. I mean sheesh!

I'd be curious about other people's thoughts on their various flavors of weapon lights though.

I'm also considering the TLR3 for a Glock 19 because the smaller size of the TLR 3 fits the G19 better but the weird battery is a turn off. I have a bunch of CR123 powered items so I can buy batteries in bulk.

Surefire is WAY overpriced. Great stuff but stupidly expensive.

scootle
12-22-2010, 11:12 PM
I'm also considering the TLR3 for a Glock 19 because the smaller size of the TLR 3 fits the G19 better but the weird battery is a turn off. I have a bunch of CR123 powered items so I can buy batteries in bulk.

Surefire is WAY overpriced. Great stuff but stupidly expensive.

Realize the TLR-3 uses CR2 lithium batteries, not CR123 like the rest of the high-perf lighting world. This is one downside that keeps me waffling over the TLR-1 with the dual CR123 design... if the TLR-3 was a single CR123 design, I wouldn't be waffling (as much).

Dunno what they were thinking, really.

jumbopanda
12-22-2010, 11:16 PM
I say skip the laser. If you practice shooting on a regular basis, you'd probably be able to aim and shoot faster with the iron sights than you would trying to track the little red dot around. I would rather strive to be consistent rather than switching back and forth between two modes of aiming.

kahai808
12-22-2010, 11:34 PM
x300 is awesome

doubledgarage
12-22-2010, 11:35 PM
X300 also works quite well on a AR-15 with picatinny rail :)

Heiko
12-22-2010, 11:43 PM
Realize the TLR-3 uses CR2 lithium batteries, not CR123 like the rest of the high-perf lighting world. This is one downside that keeps me waffling over the TLR-1 with the dual CR123 design... if the TLR-3 was a single CR123 design, I wouldn't be waffling (as much).

Dunno what they were thinking, really.

Yup, I did realize the TLR3 uses a weird battery, not the CR123s. That is what has kept me from just ordering the TLR3 for about $75. The CR2s seem to be about $6 to $8 each which I suppose isn't crazy expensive for a battery that is going to sit most of the time. I doubt I'd be burning up the TLR3 and CR2 battery. My M3X has had the same set of CR123s since I bought it a few years ago. For some reason, this issue has really bothered me even though I really like the TLR3 form factor. :mad:

http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/46244/2691135100100259265S600x600Q85.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4757/001ge.jpg

scootle
12-22-2010, 11:48 PM
Yup, I did realize the TLR3 uses a weird battery, not the CR123s. That is what has kept me from just ordering the TLR3 for about $75. The CR2s seem to be about $6 to $8 each which I suppose isn't crazy expensive for a battery that is going to sit most of the time. I doubt I'd be burning up the TLR3 and CR2 battery. My M3X has had the same set of CR123s since I bought it a few years ago. For some reason, this issue has really bothered me even though I really like the TLR3 form factor. :mad:

Yeah, no joke there... making the TLR-3 use the CR2 was a big mistake, imho. The cost for CR2 is a huge downside as well... CR123 is amazingly cheap in bulk.

Believe it or not, the TLR-1 is actually lower in overall height than the TLR-3, which is a plus for me since I am hoping to use the light in a 12 o'clock mount on my AR build as well... but the TLR-1 is double the weight. :(

Agonizing, isn't it? :chris:

I'll let you know if I just light a match to some cash and get both TLR-1 and TLR-3 to test drive on both the AR and M&P9.

In_this_city
12-23-2010, 1:34 AM
I love my TLR-1. Plenty bright and easy to find a holster for it.

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6426/glock1.jpg

jshoebot
12-23-2010, 3:45 AM
I have an old Insight SSL-1 on my XD9. Sticks out about an inch past the barrel (4" barrel) but I like it. The activators are placed perfectly do with a high-thumb grip that I use, I can activate the light with my left thumb.

Shenaniguns
12-23-2010, 5:42 AM
X300


Same here brother!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad251/SShenaniguns/47e5dd33.jpg

Ltfive
12-23-2010, 6:54 AM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o268/ltfive/guns/DSC00324.jpg

jello2594
12-23-2010, 7:32 AM
I like my Blackhawk xiphos NT light. They go in blackhawk holsters, they have a strobe selection, and its a blinding 90 lumen light. also, it only needs one 123 battery.

I have the same. Here's what it looks like, with and without being in the holster designed for it.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3484644747_b99207756e.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3484653515_5604a64e9a.jpg

XDseb
12-23-2010, 8:46 AM
Streamlight TLR-3 ...found it used on ebay for $50. Its not too bulky and its super bright...what else could you ask for. Does not require a tool to put on or remove...just a coin...quarters work best.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/sebastian22/XD-40/IMG_0884.jpg

DaveFJ80
12-23-2010, 8:57 AM
TLR-1s

I like the way it operates and it's bright enough. The X300 is nice, but too bright & intense for what I would use it for (in house for HD.... outside in a large open area is fine with the X300). Plus the strobe feature is nice for a $99 light.



http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/mugenef8/FIREARMS/Kimber/HD_Pics/61.jpg

Shawn L
12-23-2010, 9:26 AM
X400
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z279/splinse/100_1533.jpg

Mastermason11
12-23-2010, 9:29 AM
Glock GTL-22

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5288/5275469595_2567c7b078_b.jpg

sr503
12-23-2010, 9:40 AM
x400, but only because i got it through a dealer incentive program that brought it down to $200. laser isn't necessary but definitely doesn't add much weight and serves a purpose every once in a while

timmyb21
12-23-2010, 9:48 AM
I run an M3 on my 1911 and even have a holster that allows me to carry with it attached. Been working for me for a while now, chillin' on the nightstand or in the safe most of the time, and on my hip when I'm in the woods. Does a fine job illuminating stuff that needs illumination!

tomd1584
12-23-2010, 9:56 AM
I'm a fan of the Surefire X series. I have both an X200a and X300.

the X200a has tight beam, while the X300 has the tight beam, it also has a good amount of flood.

I've used the TLR-1 before, and while a good deal for the price, it doesnt have quite the features of the Surefires. Thats expected though, considering they are about half the cost.

The fact that the Surefires controls are fully ambidextrous are much more appealing to me than the Streamlight.

The Sure series (non-laser) have a slimmer profile too.

CALI SHOT DOC
12-23-2010, 9:59 AM
TLR-1

VERY BRIGHT, VERY DURABLE, EASY AND FAST TO REMOVE OR MOUNT. GREAT LIGHT AND WON'T BREAK THE BANK AS MUCH AS THE OTHER ONES

evidens83
12-23-2010, 10:03 AM
Streamlight M3X
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/evalencia83/Mexico084-1.jpg

SexualChocolate
12-23-2010, 10:36 AM
I love my TLR-1

And for those debating on the TLR-1 vs the TLR-3, are you seriously concerned with weight? We are talking ounces here not pounds. Based on output and battery alone that should be enough to make you not care about the extra weight.

fennecfrank
12-23-2010, 10:42 AM
surefire x300. it's light and durable. the major construction is not of plastic.

RollingCode3
12-23-2010, 3:02 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cadetcode3/guns/IMG_1078.jpg

ir0nclash86
12-23-2010, 3:28 PM
TLR-1S
+1 on the strobe feature

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/melikesid/DSC00085.jpg

Dhena81
12-23-2010, 4:59 PM
The first HG light I bought was a Streamlight I forget the model number but it has a plastic body and a laser with ambi controls. Its a great little light but then there's the Surefire x series and even though the Streamlight was 279.00 when I bought it you can tell where the extra money goes with the quality of the beam its amazing. My streamlight has tons of dark spots which never really bothered me until I saw a Surefire beam.

To answer your question with weather or not a laser is worth it I guess it depends on your POU. The areas a laser shines so to speak is when your in awkward shooting positions that do not allow you to use your irons or optics.

97F1504RAD
12-23-2010, 5:15 PM
TLR-1s

I like the way it operates and it's bright enough. The X300 is nice, but too bright & intense for what I would use it for (in house for HD.... outside in a large open area is fine with the X300). Plus the strobe feature is nice for a $99 light.



http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/mugenef8/FIREARMS/Kimber/HD_Pics/61.jpg



I agree, it really is hard to beat the TLR-1 when you consider the price point of it. And when you get discount codes from places like LAPolice gear it makes it even better.

Like right now they are having a 15% off sale.

Olav
12-23-2010, 5:16 PM
I repurposed the Larue Tactical LT606 Offset flashlight mount that I use for my carbine.

Works great.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc212/olava1/MP9/light_left.jpg

Aspec5vz
12-23-2010, 5:25 PM
Anyone have experience with the Viridian X5/C5 series of lights?

Jerkdog
12-23-2010, 5:40 PM
+1 on the TLR-1...


http://i.imgur.com/v9CXk.jpg

cindynles
12-25-2010, 6:09 PM
I'm using a Safariland RLS mount with a Streamlight Poly-Tac LED light. It works great for me. Total cost was only $75 ($40 for the light and $35 for mount).

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/cindynles/IMG_0838.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/cindynles/IMG_0839.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/cindynles/IMG_0842.jpg

Can't buy anything here
12-25-2010, 6:53 PM
TLR-3 works for me..not too long...lightweight....easy on and off....

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/sipowicz/P1070134.jpg

orangeglo
12-25-2010, 7:23 PM
Anyone have experience with the Viridian X5/C5 series of lights?

Just ordered a C5L. Won't have it till Tuesday though.

http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/catalog/images/C5Lstore.jpg

Aspec5vz
12-25-2010, 7:28 PM
What kind of pistol are you putting it on? I'm looking to buy a P99 and that's the light I'm looking at getting for it.

SeanCasey
12-25-2010, 8:10 PM
Just got a TLR-1s as a gift, great light, looks cool on my P226R, and its bright, the strobe is a nice feature too.

orangeglo
12-25-2010, 8:40 PM
What kind of pistol are you putting it on? I'm looking to buy a P99 and that's the light I'm looking at getting for it.

Actually going to put it on a full size M&P45.

I heard it doesn't mount to a P99 very well. I think it was on a review on opticsplanet.com. You might want to give viridian a call a make sure it fits properly on the P99.

Calm
12-25-2010, 8:46 PM
I've used the Insight M6X, Insight X2 and the TLR-3. The M6X and TLR-3 are pretty bright, and the M6X had the laser. All and all, I have to say the Streamlight TLR-3 is by far my favorite. Small, lightweight, descent run time and easy to actuate. If I were in need of a replacement, I would go TLR-3 in a minute. Meets my needs fully.

scootle
02-06-2011, 6:32 PM
Yeah, no joke there... making the TLR-3 use the CR2 was a big mistake, imho. The cost for CR2 is a huge downside as well... CR123 is amazingly cheap in bulk.

Believe it or not, the TLR-1 is actually lower in overall height than the TLR-3, which is a plus for me since I am hoping to use the light in a 12 o'clock mount on my AR build as well... but the TLR-1 is double the weight.

I'll let you know if I just light a match to some cash and get both TLR-1 and TLR-3 to test drive on both the AR and M&P9.

sorry to resurrect an old thread, but i finally took some time to bust out the camera for some comparisons of the TLR-1s vs. TLR-3 on the same pistol (M&P9 FS). i ended up just getting one of each since i couldn't decide!

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/15/20110206221159s90img259.th.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/15/20110206221159s90img259.jpg) http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4412/20110206221149s90img259.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4412/20110206221149s90img259.jpg)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4712/20110206221111s90img259.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4712/20110206221111s90img259.jpg) http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5710/20110206221057s90img258.th.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5710/20110206221057s90img258.jpg)

To see how the TLR-3 actually sits higher than the TLR-1s... here are both of them mounted on my AR rail:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1280/20110206221749s90img260.th.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1280/20110206221749s90img260.jpg)

So... which one should I put on the pistol vs. the AR? :D

X-NewYawker
02-06-2011, 6:37 PM
Surefire X-200, 300 and sometimes 400 if I need a laser, although it is very bulky compared to the others.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/handguns/SIS-gun-table.jpg

swrdply400mrelay
02-06-2011, 6:52 PM
For those that have or are considering the TLR-3, here is a good affordable source for CR2's:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/w2en-lcr2.html

scootle
02-06-2011, 6:56 PM
For those that have or are considering the TLR-3, here is a good affordable source for CR2's:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/w2en-lcr2.html

whoa... $1 each? are these batteries gonna blow up on us or something? lol.

thanks for the link!

RollingCode3
02-06-2011, 7:29 PM
whoa... $1 each? are these batteries gonna blow up on us or something? lol.

thanks for the link!


They charge high for shipping. Whenever I order from them, I order enough batteries to last me for the next 3 years.

swrdply400mrelay
02-07-2011, 4:45 AM
whoa... $1 each? are these batteries gonna blow up on us or something? lol.

thanks for the link!

Their 123's actually compare very well to Surefire's. They're very popular with people on candlepowerforums.

Like RollingCode3 said, to save on shipping, you should probably order dozens at a time. Lithium disposable batteries have a 10 year shelf life and don't self discharge or leak like alkalines, so might as well :)

I order a couple dozen 123's and CR2's at a time.

For 5% off, use coupon code: CPF2009

Jack L
02-07-2011, 5:53 AM
Weird. I woke up this AM wanting to buy a light, never had one and never really thought of it before until this AM. Then I see this post. I am going with the TLR-1 for now. I can always upgrade. I have a M&P and a Glock 27. Going to put it in the M&P since that is my HD rig. The 27 is my CCW.

Jack L
02-07-2011, 4:13 PM
On sale!

http://www.ombexpress.com/p_FL779.aspx

scootle
02-07-2011, 4:36 PM
On sale!

http://www.ombexpress.com/p_FL779.aspx

wow, $84.99 for the TLR-1s is a pretty nice price. has anyone had a history or ordered from this outfit before? thanks.

aermotor
02-07-2011, 4:37 PM
TLR-3 hands down for me. Size, weight and performance are unbeatable.

baz152
02-07-2011, 4:59 PM
I have owned about one of all of the mentioned lights and for the money there is no way that you can beat a TLR1s. But for the love of god stay away from the old polymer Streamlight M3 lights, I have seen hundreds of them cr@p the bed. For $100 you can easily find a TLR1s which has good battery life from a now common battery, a light bright enough and with enough throw to do rifle work and the entire thing is extremely tough.

Jack L
02-07-2011, 5:28 PM
People that checked in at Accessories: Holsters, Safes, Locks & more say they have ordered from these folks are are satisfied with prompt delivery. I ordered one. Check their posts.

stix213
02-07-2011, 5:29 PM
TLR-1 due to its somewhat common battery type, and its very bright.

If its a small handgun then go for TLR-3, but you are using an uncommon battery and it isn't as bright as the TLR-1. Still good though.

Sturnovik
02-07-2011, 5:34 PM
What is your favorite weapon mounted light for your handgun? WHY?

Is a laser really necessary?


I bought a TLR1 streamlight for 100 flat. I love that damn thing. My other streamlight Polytac, isnt as bright as it even. I love that its not to heavy and big and is damn near indestructible. I bought a brick of the C123 batteries so I'm good to go for years to come.

Katana
02-07-2011, 10:02 PM
wow, $84.99 for the TLR-1s is a pretty nice price. has anyone had a history or ordered from this outfit before? thanks.

I ordered a TLR-1s from them a couple of weeks ago.

They have great customer service and an $89.99 order gets you free shipping. Just pick up a couple packs of these with the light and you're good to go:

http://www.ombexpress.com/p_BY028.aspx

scootle
02-07-2011, 10:15 PM
sort of off-topic, but has anyone tried running the TLR-1s on a shotgun? i'm going to search a bit, but i presume it works fine. main concern is if it can withstand the increased recoil.

i might order a spare at that price to mount to the scattergun at some point.

zod
02-07-2011, 11:22 PM
On sale!

http://www.ombexpress.com/p_FL779.aspx

Great find. Ordered one also.

kahai808
02-08-2011, 5:28 AM
x300 is the way to go!

duc748bip
02-08-2011, 6:11 AM
+1 on Surefire X300

scootle
02-08-2011, 6:21 AM
I got both my TLR-1s and TLR-3 for less money than one X300... just sayin'... ;)

cineski
02-08-2011, 6:47 AM
The Surefire system is the best because of the molded grip activated remote switch. I got this for my wife to really simplify the home defense process for her but I ended up loving it. You never have to change your grip. Don't want the light on? Just ease up on the button. I wish Streamlight made something similar but when I called them they had no plans (but oddly understood why I wanted one). Very strange, but Surefire got my money. Oh, and no laser for me at all. Lasers can fail and I don't want myself or my wife relying on something that can fail when life depends on it.

Yuba
03-02-2011, 9:19 PM
Going with the TLR-3, after all its a $4 battery and a better unit.

http://www.amazon.com/KODAK-Single-CR2-Lithium-Battery/dp/B0002GS4YQ

Lowball
03-03-2011, 9:16 AM
I went with the TLR-2 for my Glock 17 and then the TLR-1 for my shotgun...with the side rail on my shotgun I could actually interchange both lights if I wanted. Is the laser necessary, no. Pretty much just did it for the hell of it.

West coast
03-03-2011, 9:38 AM
TLR-1.....

asuh
03-03-2011, 11:03 AM
Just picked up a PX4 Storm full-size and just purchased a TLR-1 weapon light. Will the Streamlight contoured remote switch fit the PX4? Thanks.

rudeboy3
03-03-2011, 11:51 AM
I'm >< close to pulling the trigger on a Streamlight TLR-3 for my M&P9 (and maybe AR too). I honestly can't decide between the TLR-3 and TLR-1. Cost is almost a non-issue, both come in either at or under $100. Weight is one thing... the TLR-3 is *light* since it's mostly polymer, which could be a questionable thing. The TLR-1 has more output power and uses more easily-obtained CR123 cells though, so that is a big plus.

I might just suck it up and order one of each and be done with it. I don't know.

Surefire is bomb-proof, sure, but their stuff is just so expensive for what you get, I could get both the TLR-1 and TLR-3 like I mentioned and still be paying less cash than a single X300. I mean sheesh!

I'd be curious about other people's thoughts on their various flavors of weapon lights though.

Definitely go with the TLR-1. They are extremely tough, bright and last a long time. I have a TLR-1s on my auto shotgun and a older TLR-1 on my M&P45 and they both have functioned every time. Unfortunately I have had nothing but trouble with my surefire light(granted its an older one, but supposedly it's one of there best models and people still try and find them).

socal425
03-03-2011, 12:06 PM
I run the TLR-1S on both my AR-15 and 1911 MC Operator. On my SIG P228 and XD-9 I've got them with the TLR-3. Very happy the setups and you can't beat Streamlight for their performance and price.

JJ1911
03-03-2011, 12:38 PM
I have a TLR-1 on my Glock 19 and a surefire x300 on whatever I decide to get next.