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randog
12-22-2010, 10:20 PM
45 ammo is putting a big dent in my wallet. Can anyone help me out or recommend me a list of things I will need to get. Nothing to fancy just wanting to put togeather a cheap setup just enough to get the job done. thanks

joelogic
12-22-2010, 10:22 PM
Just cruise over to the reloading forum, there a ton of info there. Including what to buy lists. Reloading doesnt actually save you any money. You really just get to shoot more with your budget.

1911Operator
12-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Just cruise over to the reloading forum, there a ton of info there. Including what to buy lists. Reloading doesnt actually save you any money. You really just get to shoot more with your budget.

+1 they always help me

Vanilla Gorilla
12-22-2010, 10:28 PM
RCBS rock chucked kit it will come with almost everything you will need after that you will need a set of dyes calipers powder bullets brass primers and you are good to go the whole set up - the bullets powder primers and brass will run you round 350 ish
http://www.safariandoutdoor.co.za/images/rcbs%20smk.jpg

Vanilla Gorilla
12-22-2010, 10:44 PM
Here's some pics of my set up I just loaded some 45 acp tonight I can do about 100 in 2 hours but I am in no rush the best part is it only costs me about 10-15 bucks to reload 100 45 acp if you load 1000 rounds of 45 acp the whole kit has just about paid for itself
http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j466/VanillaGorilla3/c603c275.jpg
http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j466/VanillaGorilla3/3fe9f06b.jpg
http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j466/VanillaGorilla3/c5911a76.jpg

AVgunGUY
12-22-2010, 11:01 PM
Reloading doesnt actually save you any money. You really just get to shoot more with your budget.

This is 100% correct - in fact reloading is quite a bit more expensive. It caused me to buy a second 9mm to shoot all that ammo. Don't question the logic - it's just more expensive.:confused:

randog
12-22-2010, 11:02 PM
Where do you buy your brass, primers and powder? Any good sites. thanks

Vanilla Gorilla
12-22-2010, 11:09 PM
Where do you buy your brass, primers and powder? Any good sites. thanks

You can reuse your old brass I buy all my powder primers and bullets from nicks gunworks in Lodi I don't know where you are located but I would just buy your supplys at your favorite gun shop of choice best advice on supplys is to buy in bulk the more you buy the more you save you can pick up a rcbs rock chucker supreme kit at bass pro shop or your local gun shop too I don't know of any good sites to order anything from I would rather support small shops in my area

Vanilla Gorilla
12-22-2010, 11:11 PM
Where do you buy your brass, primers and powder? Any good sites. thanks

If you dont have any use brass you can get some in the for sale section or most ranges will sell it by the pound

1911Operator
12-22-2010, 11:13 PM
Id say go with a dillon 550B or the one before it. I thin its called square deal or somethin weird. With my 550 I can load about 400 an hour easy and about 500 if I step up my game, your gonna want a faster machine eventually so might as well start off with it.

Don the savage
12-23-2010, 12:55 AM
Go simple. I have a lee turret press and I load .45 for about $9 for 50 rounds and that is on the high end if I don't get a deal on components. I can load about 100 rounds an hour. Sure you can buy a 700dollar progressive and load quicker but how much do you need. Are you a high end ispda guy who needs 10000 rounds a month or are you doing range work twice a month? If you are a normal recreational shooter you can save a lot. Up front for my setup would be around 200 bucks for a press, dies, tumbler and misc other goods needed. At $9 a box that amortizes quick. I just don't get it when people say you can't save money reloading. Today I loaded 400 rounds of 9mm for around $25 in components reusing brass and not computing my time( by the way hobby time is not a cost). If you enjoy building things you will enjoy reloading and save a lot of money if done right. If you dont enjoy building things stake out walmart for cheap ammo.

dlouie87
12-23-2010, 12:57 AM
don't forget, with these kits, you still need dies. seaters, etc.

Heiko
12-23-2010, 1:12 AM
I have heard some good things about the Lee Pro 1000 progressive. This kit is for .45ACP for $145 from Midway. (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=351321) A couple of guys I know have these, with one having two of them so each is set up for different calibers. At this price I suppose that is not a bad idea.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/351/351321.jpg

jumbopanda
12-23-2010, 1:21 AM
https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=26&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41

This is the setup I got a couple of years ago, and I can load up to 180rds/hr with it. I'd suggest getting both upgrades.

IntoForever
12-23-2010, 1:34 AM
I have heard some good things about the Lee Pro 1000 progressive. This kit is for .45ACP for $145 from Midway. (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=351321) A couple of guys I know have these, with one having two of them so each is set up for different calibers. At this price I suppose that is not a bad idea.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/351/351321.jpg

That's what I have, works great. Just don't get the cheap Classic Lee kit where you hammer everything together. I get my brass from the gun shops at about $20/100 rounds new or $10/100 rounds once fired. I'm sure you can get it cheaper if you look around.

himurax13
12-23-2010, 1:37 AM
I started with a Dillon Square Deal back in February for 9mm and then I bought a second one dedicated for .45 ACP. Between the two, I have loaded roughly 30,000 rounds since then. With FMJ's, I can do over 300 rounds an hour at a steady and careful pace. Loading lead takes a bit longer, especially if you have to clean off any alox or bullet lube. I can say that they have more than paid for themselves. However getting started into reloading can cost you a great deal of money. If you get a progressive you will still need to get a good electronic scale, calipers, bullet puller, tumblers, tumbler media, primer trays, primer pickup tubes, boxes for your bullets, boxes for your boxes etc. etc. Then in order to see any real savings you have to buy all of your components in bulk, especially the powder and primers which is cheapest to buy online. Then you need to find a steady source for bullets. Search around for the best price. You can find good deals on brass if you look hard enough. Before you know it, you will be spending way more money on ammo than on your gear. Don't forget that you will also need a lot of work space and a lot of time on your hands.

IMHO, if you are shooting less than a few thousand rounds a year, it is not worth it. You might want to look into investing in a 22 kit to get some additional trigger time. However in light of the upcoming laws, now may be a good time to get started. I have spent far more money on reloading that I originally planned on. The best thing about reloading is that you can fine tune your ammo to a specific gun, the problem is that there are a lot of choices to pick from. Everyone has their opinion on what is best, but only you can determine what is optimal for your setup.

five.five-six
12-23-2010, 1:40 AM
you can never go wrong starting off with a single stage like a rockchucker, you's still use the same dies, books and other tools, and if you ever want to load some match loads, single is the way to go.

IMO, it is better to learn what's going on with each stage in a single before you jump into a progressive anyways

railroader
12-23-2010, 5:45 AM
I would also recommend the Lee turret press. You install your dies once in the plates and you are done. It won't break the bank and you can load 100 rounds or so per hour. With a single stage you will repeatedly have install and remove dies, with the turret press you don't have too. Mark

Fishslayer
12-23-2010, 7:50 AM
Where do you buy your brass, primers and powder? Any good sites. thanks

You can get range pickups (brass) here. The usual caveats dealing on the internet but I've had good luck. Just check out the deadbeats & straight shooters thread & you should be OK.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

I get my primers & powder at a couple different places depending on availability. I don't buy enough at a time to justify a $20 hazmat fee.

.45ACP is a very n00b friendly round for reloading.

morrcarr67
12-23-2010, 8:00 AM
I have heard some good things about the Lee Pro 1000 progressive. This kit is for .45ACP for $145 from Midway. (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=351321) A couple of guys I know have these, with one having two of them so each is set up for different calibers. At this price I suppose that is not a bad idea.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/351/351321.jpg

+1 for Lee. I have had the Classic Turret press for about 20 years now. I can't tell you how many 1000"s of rounds I've reloaded with this press. I have dies for 380/9MM, 38/357, 40/10MM, 44Spl/Mag and 45ACP. With all that I have reloaded I wish I had gotten a progressive.

Buy new ammo, go and shot it, save all your brass and start reloading. :43:

Wonderwhippet
12-23-2010, 8:17 AM
With my Dillon 650 om just one evening I load enough in one caliber to last me six months. Yes, in the end you don't save any money because you end up shooting more. But the more you shoot, the better you feel. That makes it an excellent investment in preserving your mental health.

Oceanbob
12-23-2010, 8:25 AM
If you want to reload get this list copied. This is from "Linkpimp" and a good resource for the Reloader. :D

Here is a list of manufactures and or companies that you should know about if you plan on reloading and buying reloading supplies:

Listed in no Particular Order

Where to find "Bullet"s:
www.dardascastbullets.com
www.berrysmfg.com/
www.missouribullet.com/
www.twoalphabullets.com/
www.rmrbullets.com/
www.rozedist.com
www.montanagoldbullet.com/index.html
www.precisiondelta.com/index1.htm
www.xtremebullets.com/index.htm
www.scharch.com/index.php
www.grafs.com/
www.midwayusa.com/
www.gamaliel.com/
www.rrarms.com/
www.wideners.com
www.sinclairintl.com/
www.natchezss.com/index.cfm
www.tjconevera.com/index.html
http://www.rmrbullets.com/
http://www.twoalphabullets.com/ [/COLOR]


Who has "Primers?"
www.cabelas.com
www.powdervalleyinc.com/
www.grafs.com/
www.midwayusa.com/
www.natchezss.com/index.cfm
www.wideners.com
www.sinclairintl.com/
www.rrarms.com/
www.gamaliel.com/


Where can I get "Brass"
http://www.starlinebrass.com/
www.oncefiredbrass.net/
www.berrysmfg.com/
www.midwayusa.com/
www.grafs.com/
www.gamaliel.com/
www.powdervalleyinc.com/
www.starlinebrass.com
www.natchezss.com/index.cfm
www.tjconevera.com/index.html
www.rrarms.com/


Reloading Press and Tools:
www.kempfgunshop.com/
www.gamaliel.com/
www.dillonprecision.com/
www.eguns.com
www.brianenos.com/
www.wideners.com
www.sinclairintl.com/
www.leeprecision.com/html/index.htm
www.hornady.com/
www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/
www.midwayusa.com/
www.rrarms.com/



Dies:
www.kempfgunshop.com/
www.dillonprecision.com/
www.eguns.com
www.brianenos.com/
www.leeprecision.com/html/index.htm
www.hornady.com/
www.natchezss.com/index.cfm
www.wideners.com
www.sinclairintl.com/
www.midwayusa.com/
www.rrarms.com/


Misc. Tools and other places to spend your kids Inheritance
www.rrarms.com/
www.berrysmfg.com/
www.kempfgunshop.com/
www.dillonprecision.com/
www.eguns.com
www.brianenos.com/
www.leeprecision.com/html/index.html
www.hornady.com/
www.harborfreight.com/
www.wideners.com
www.sinclairintl.com/
www.natchezss.com/index.cfm
www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/
www.jandjproducts.com/.
www.midwayusa.com/
www.gamaliel.com/

zdragon
12-23-2010, 8:27 AM
all the basics....but it gets the job done using 45acp RCBS dies and 9mm Lee dies.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/P1050821.jpg

jeferd
12-23-2010, 9:10 AM
Just cruise over to the reloading forum, there a ton of info there. Including what to buy lists. Reloading doesnt actually save you any money. You really just get to shoot more with your budget.

Shooting more for the same money?? Woo-hoo..perfect!! I feel I always limit myself at the range thinking about the $$$ flying down range. :D

Oceanbob
12-23-2010, 9:28 AM
I know that most people want to get started reloading to
'save money' on ammunition.

I think feeding our hobby (bullets/ammunition) is NOT going to get less expensive; I expect increased cost for factory ammo and further restrictions on our rights via Government Idiots who make rules without our input or vote.

My Opinion (your mileage may vary) is to invest in a GOOD press with good equipment.

Reasons:
1. A quality Press will last several lifetimes. Ignore the initial cost (less than one good 1911 or a couple of used Glocks...:D ) Because a good quality Press holds it's value, over a short period of time you can always sell your set up for what you paid or very close to it. So it is NOT money that is lost or unrecoverable. A good Press/set up is an investment.

2. Once you make an initial investment in a GOOD press and all the odds and ends to manufacture ammunition; your costs to make bullets will drop dramatically. Ignore the up-front cost. Why? Because from now on nothing can stop you from manufacturing ammo; you can switch calibers by changing dies; you can make hot HD ammo for pennies instead of a buck; you can have fun doing it. A GOOD press will save you TIME. And Money.

3. The Budget for getting on the right track will be $1000. (A weekend in Vegas...hahaha)..Sure you can nickel and dime a cheap set up for $500
but if your a working man who likes to shoot and save time and money, the extra money spent on a GOOD press will be well worth it.

4. Sure, a less expensive Press/set up can be had. But for me, I don't want to spend 2 hours making 100 Bullets. That's a lot of time in my busy world. A GOOD press (my personal minimun) should be able to produce 500 Rounds Per Hour..!..and that press would be a DILLON 550B.

5. If you shoot a lot and really want to save time then the Ultimate Press would be a DILLON 1050. I have both of these models..The DILLON 1050 is set up for .45 Auto...and this Press can produce 100 fresh new bullets in exactly 5 minutes.!...(1200 bullets per hour)...sure the up-front cost is high; but if I ever decide to end my Gun Hobby I can sell this machine for close to it's cost. Maybe more as time goes by.

6. The DILLON 550B I have can pump out an easy 500 rounds per hour. Those 100 rounds a that took two hours on a less expensive set up can be manufactured in 12 minutes.!..to me, saving time is important. And the same
escape plan applies; if I want to I can sell it for close to my cost. No problem.

7. Once you have a Good Press/set up running smooth nothing can stop or restrict your ability to feed your Gun collection. If you decide to get into other calibers, all you will need to start saving $ is a set of dies.

I have both my presses on a heavy duty table with wheels. I can reload
.45 auto/.40/.223/.308/9MM

Here's a good link for reading about DILLON...(Dillon is number one for a reason)

http://www.brianenos.com/pages/dillon.html

Have fun!
http://i51.tinypic.com/2zrqqo1.jpg

Vanilla Gorilla
12-23-2010, 9:32 AM
you can never go wrong starting off with a single stage like a rockchucker, you's still use the same dies, books and other tools, and if you ever want to load some match loads, single is the way to go.

IMO, it is better to learn what's going on with each stage in a single before you jump into a progressive anyways

+1:iagree:

Vanilla Gorilla
12-23-2010, 9:40 AM
wow! all thease nice reloading set ups are making oakey rig look like crap lol i am going to have to clean up a bit in my shop and maybe get some new wall paper lol or not :shrug:

shinbone
12-23-2010, 10:20 AM
Going budget is okay, but know where youre going to have to spend a few bucks to do it right the first time.

Lee Challenger Press --> 50
Lee 45 Dies -->30
Home Depot calipers --15
RCBS Uniflow powder dispenser --> 70
RCBS 502 balance beam scale -->70

I threw RCBS powder measure and scale on the list because weighing and dispensing powder is where you dont want to skimp. Over or undercharging can be dangerous, not to mention the inconsistencies from cheaper measures and scales that don't stay zero can lead to inconsistent pressures/accuracy.

and then you have to get components. 45 is a low pressure low velocity round. So just go with cast instead of jacketed. Long as you dont load hot you wont foul up your bore.

Primers can be had for 22-35 dollars for 1000.

Leobrass.com has 1000 once fired brass pieces for 50 bux.. (that might just be an end of year special), or just collect brass at the range if you can. Benefit of buying brass is that there are less variances from mixed headstamps.

If you want to get really efficient in your routine, get yourself a brasscatcher or make one. That way you can keep more of your brass and keep track of how many uses each set of brass goes through.

Get yourself a 45 ACP "Loadbook" for 8 bux. Unless you see yourself getting into more calibers, just getting a one round- one book will have all the data you need since it also has info from various manuals.

Thats pretty much it, to start with.

zfields
12-23-2010, 10:28 AM
You need to go study the reloading forum. Buy a couple manuals and READ THEM before you even buy your press.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_L9wuEAD0zJM/TQfHHHXXGxI/AAAAAAAAADA/rcYy4VcolIQ/s512/IMG_20100820_144923.jpg

Vanilla Gorilla
12-23-2010, 11:55 AM
You need to go study the reloading forum. Buy a couple manuals and READ THEM before you even buy your press.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_L9wuEAD0zJM/TQfHHHXXGxI/AAAAAAAAADA/rcYy4VcolIQ/s512/IMG_20100820_144923.jpg


I just bought the press and a book and started learning i would recommend reading the abs's of reloading it will help you a bunch but as long as you keep the idea in the back of your head that gun powder is not to be played with all willie nillie you should be fine
keep your powder dry! and your muzzle down range!
(always wanted to say that:D)

randog
12-23-2010, 12:44 PM
Thanks for the info guys.

five.five-six
12-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Buy a couple manuals and READ THEM before you even buy your press.

QFT

joelogic
12-23-2010, 11:13 PM
Surprised this thread hasnt been moved yet.

The joys of reloading. 1100 rounds of my competition blasting ammo and 1000 of my knock-off SS109. The XL650 has a crusing speed of 600 rounds per hour.
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m353/joelogic/pl020.jpg
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m353/joelogic/klp020.jpg

Argonaut
12-23-2010, 11:14 PM
The biggest challenge with reloading straight wall cases is getting the "bell" just right before seating the bullet. otherwise it is nothing difficult with a little practice. I also vote for a standard RCBS outfit, it will teach you the basics.

MarioS
12-24-2010, 1:35 AM
I would plan to spend a good amount of time reading threads in the reloading section. There are good threads there that can get you going. You will need a number of things besides the materials for the cartridges themselves and the press, like a set of calipers, method of cleaning brass, scale, etc. You can find load data online from powder manufacturer webpages. I highly recommend getting a reloading book like Speer's Reloading Manual #14. A cheap setup will probably not be efficient or very productive. Only advice I can give is if you're going to get into it, get into it; nice setup that is set up right.