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fredieusa
12-16-2010, 11:46 AM
This person needs parts. I am not even sure what he has. I am told it is a "Colt 38"

Barrel fails the bullet test miserably, swallows the whole bullet and some of the casing.

Thank you for your help.


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harmoniums
12-16-2010, 11:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_M1892

jdberger
12-16-2010, 11:56 AM
One of the first examples of the "Caliber Wars".

"Y'all can shoot a guy 23 times with a .38 and he'll keep on coming, but if you just hit him in the pinky finger with a .45 he'll spin around and drop right deader than a doornail."

jdberger
12-16-2010, 11:59 AM
Oh - one reason it fails the "bullet test" is that a bullet for .38 Long Colt is .361 inches in diameter. .38 Special is .357 inches in diameter.

morrcarr67
12-16-2010, 3:03 PM
I told you the guys over here know their stuff. :D

harmoniums
12-16-2010, 3:27 PM
:o oopsie.

So can the barrel be switched and it be used for 38 spl/ 357mags? The cylinder looks/works just fine with 38 spl. maybe switch that out too for a .357 mag.

This gun is overseas and the guy is stuck with it. Thats all he has and upgrading to a Glock is not possible legally given his local laws.

38 spl will fire, but extraction will be stiff, as the cases will swell in the cylinder a bit
Dont fire +P though

Fjold
12-16-2010, 7:51 PM
There is always a market for original condition Colts. They are almost always worth more than a run of the mill 38 special revolver.

You would probably have to manufacture a cylinder to fit the frame, convrting it to 38 Spec ouldcost you more than just buing an older 38 Spec revolver.

TRAP55
12-17-2010, 12:13 AM
With the lanyard ring, I think that would be the 1894 Model. That one was made in 1901 if I got the serial right.
Needs an ejector rod head:
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=195300-01C&catid=7199

smle-man
12-17-2010, 8:18 AM
They are not up to handling +P or .357 pressures and accuracy with standard .38 special rounds will be poor. The .38 long colt round uses a heeled bullet like a .22 rim fire round. Not really a practical shooter. Plus the mechanism is somewhat fragile and prone to getting out of sorts.

-hanko
12-17-2010, 9:21 AM
I would definitely NOT consider .357 mag in this gun, even though you can fit one in the chamber:eek:

It's designed for the .38 Colt cartridge...12,000 CUP MAXIMUM.

To avoid blowing-up the pistol, go here and read VERY carefully...;)
.38 Colt Cartridge (http://www.thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=420400)

If it were my gun, I'd keep it as a wall-hanger until I found some .38 Colt ammo.

hth

-hanko

El Gato
12-17-2010, 9:43 AM
There is always a market for original condition Colts. They are almost always worth more than a run of the mill 38 special revolver.

You would probably have to manufacture a cylinder to fit the frame, convrting it to 38 Spec ouldcost you more than just buing an older 38 Spec revolver.

+1

ask and ye shall receive


http://ows-ammo.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=58_21&products_id=201

38 LC 150GR Lead FP
$34.95
.38 Long Colt 150GR Lead FP. Correctly headstamped, precise hand cast bullet. Box of 50 rds.


not in stock today.. but soon I'm sure...

and from gunbroker... 425.00 out of lake isabella ca...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206114753

I think I would keep it in original condition and shoot a few rounds each year just because... which is why I have sold most of my old guns.. i shoot them too much...YMMV

gun toting monkeyboy
12-17-2010, 12:41 PM
DO NOT try to monkey around with it to get it to fire .38 Specials. It is very old, and there is no way of telling how much abuse it has had over the past century. Just track down ammo, or get reloading supplies. There are several companies out there that make .38 long colt ammo and/or components. It will never be a glock. It will never be a .357 Magnum. But if he is stuck over seas, and that is what he has, I would seriously consider getting a bullet mold, and having it customized to cast hollow points. A .38 long colt isn't the greatest round, but it is a damned sight better than nothing. With good hand loads and some soft lead hollow points, it is nothing to be sneezed at either. Where exactly is your friend located? The Philippines?