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sfwdiy
12-13-2010, 10:36 PM
I kinda want one, but I have a feeling it'll end up just sitting in my bag, ignored most of the time and then I'd be pissed off about spending so much cash on it.

I already have a 15" Core i5 Macbook pro, I just got a 13" Macbook Pro from work (with an SSD drive, which is the best possible upgrade on earth, by the way), and a Droid Incredible.

I can't find an excuse to squeeze the iPad into this ecosystem. If I can find something, especially work-related to justify it I'd like to get one, but I just don't see anything valid.

My wife wants one. Maybe I'll just get one for her, then borrow it whenever I feel like dicking around with it. (Yeah, that'll go over well.)

--B

Tawcoma26
12-13-2010, 11:38 PM
jailbreak...and then...

FREE APPPS!!!! YES!!!! Sorry, but its true.

sfwdiy
12-13-2010, 11:55 PM
jailbreak...and then...

FREE APPPS!!!! YES!!!! Sorry, but its true.

I got apps out the wazoo on my phone already, most of which I use rarely or not at all.

That's another part of this equation, I don't ever "play around" with my devices. I don't buy games or apps that are purely for dicking around in some manner. Pretty much everything I have has some utilitarian value, and I have no desire for fart-sounds or birds that are angry about something.

--B

hcbr
12-14-2010, 2:41 AM
i'll admit it's just a complimentary device, it's not something you would use over another device. I have a droid X, blackberry 9650 and macbook pro 17, and i uses those more than my ipad. Unless you plan on using the ipad as a notebook replacement ( and when i mean a notebook i mean physical pen and paper notebook) and soemthing to read on the train, then it's the best complimentary device. If you don't do alot of that, then don't buy it, just stick with your laptops!

bigmike82
12-14-2010, 9:02 AM
iPads are great for the living room couch.

See a cool show on the History Channel and want to know more?

Pull up Wikipedia on the iPad. Check your email. Feed some trolls on 4chan. Pull up some recipes for dinner. The list is virtually endless.

DaveFJ80
12-14-2010, 9:10 AM
I have a 64 GB iPad... jailbroken, tons of apps & really hacked the way I want it.... and 90% of the time it just sits on my desk not being used.

I use a PC laptop the majority of the time at home, and another PC laptop at work (even when I travel between my offices). I've only taken my iPad with me on the plane twice to watch some movies and I actually found it a little more cumbersome to travel with than with my work laptop. My wife really wanted it to use at home while she sits on the couch, but she instead also uses my laptop at home more for her video chatting, Facebook, and whatever else she does (mostly uploading photos from the camera).

Don't get me wrong, it's a great toy and a cool thing to use. But for me, I'm better off just giving it away to my nephew for christmas.

high_revs
12-14-2010, 9:11 AM
the only time i ever can see benefit, when you're flying. most laptops are hard to use with the tray down and the passenger in front lower his/her seat. and then you have to angle your screen more to prevent it smacking directly if the person moves around.

most of the other stuff, you can do with a laptop though heavier.

how hard is it to use qwerty when you can't have it angled at times?

Casual_Shooter
12-14-2010, 9:14 AM
I know a couple people with them. After talking with them, I can see no reason to buy one.

stphnman20
12-14-2010, 9:15 AM
It's just something to have when your doing number 2.

silversix
12-14-2010, 9:17 AM
Or #3 :eek:

Rivers
12-14-2010, 10:12 AM
I have one. I also have a MacBook Pro 17" and a Mac Pro tower. It really depends on your needs. I use the iPad for image galleries (photos, desktop publishing, etc.), database access (FileMaker), maps (driving), DropBox (common file sharing), word processing, spreadsheets, Skype, Remote Desktop (for remote control of a PC), and the required ballistic apps. My general contractor (doing my home remodel) used Inclinometer to bust the chops of tile setters who get sloppy with bubble levels. He and my project manager use the iPads I got them for my job for quick access of PDF plans, drawings, photos and more. This saves me money by getting faster responses from the engineer, architect and subcontractors.

But the iPad isn't for everyone.

Casual_Shooter
12-14-2010, 10:14 AM
Why do you use the iPad v.s. the MBP for those tasks?

Rob Roy
12-14-2010, 10:20 AM
No reason to buy it until they provide full web browsing experience.

JDay
12-14-2010, 6:13 PM
Don't get me wrong, it's a great toy and a cool thing to use.

That's exactly why you shouldn't buy one, you'll play with it for a week or so and pretty much forget about it.

JDay
12-14-2010, 6:16 PM
Why do you use the iPad v.s. the MBP for those tasks?

Especially since you can do 99% of that on your smart phone and the rest is better suited for a real machine.

Casual_Shooter
12-14-2010, 7:12 PM
Especially since you can do 99% of that on your smart phone and the rest is better suited for a real machine.

Don't get me started on smart phones. Seems like we waited for years to get large color monitors for our computers. Just when we get 20+ inch, clear LCD monitors, everyone decides they need to work on tiny 3" screens on their phones. :chris:

Doheny
12-14-2010, 7:17 PM
I kinda want one, but I have a feeling it'll end up just sitting in my bag, ignored most of the time and then I'd be pissed off about spending so much cash on it.

I already have a 15" Core i5 Macbook pro, I just got a 13" Macbook Pro from work (with an SSD drive, which is the best possible upgrade on earth, by the way), and a Droid Incredible.

I can't find an excuse to squeeze the iPad into this ecosystem. If I can find something, especially work-related to justify it I'd like to get one, but I just don't see anything valid.

My wife wants one. Maybe I'll just get one for her, then borrow it whenever I feel like dicking around with it. (Yeah, that'll go over well.)

--B

I think you answered you own question.

Good idea about buying one for the Mrs. Just borrow it when you need it. Besides, she'll remember the goodwill you showed when you wanna buy your next gun.

.

JDay
12-14-2010, 8:47 PM
Don't get me started on smart phones. Seems like we waited for years to get large color monitors for our computers. Just when we get 20+ inch, clear LCD monitors, everyone decides they need to work on tiny 3" screens on their phones. :chris:

Have you ever tried to carry around a desktop computer with you? The battery pack alone would be over 100lbs. Smart phones are great for checking email while on the go, all the other features are just a bonus.

JDay
12-14-2010, 8:48 PM
I can't find an excuse to squeeze the iPad into this ecosystem. If I can find something, especially work-related to justify it I'd like to get one, but I just don't see anything valid.

You're looking for a problem for a solution when you should be focusing on solutions for problems. Reminds me of when the iPod came out and all the corporations were integrating it into products just so they could say they supported it.

Curtis
12-14-2010, 8:54 PM
I'm posting yhis on my iPad. It depends on how you use your computers. For us, it is great. I would love to get a 2nd one for when I'm on the road.

We use ours sitting around the house or eating breakfas (it has replaced my news paper). It fits our use of the Internet so well that we omitted one desk top and one laptop from our home.

I would like to use login with the iPad, but the cost of the software is just too much money. I also like to use it when driving. The maps are easier to read. My wife used it for movies, Internet, and reading during our 3,000 mile road trip this summer.

Casual_Shooter
12-14-2010, 9:05 PM
I'm posting yhis on my iPad. It depends on how you use your computers. For us, it is great. I would love to get a 2nd one for when I'm on the road.

We use ours sitting around the house or eating breakfas (it has replaced my news paper). It fits our use of the Internet so well that we omitted one desk top and one laptop from our home.

I would like to use login with the iPad, but the cost of the software is just too much money. I also like to use it when driving. The maps are easier to read. My wife used it for movies, Internet, and reading during our 3,000 mile road trip this summer.

Why did you replace the laptop with the iPad?

Casual_Shooter
12-14-2010, 9:06 PM
Have you ever tried to carry around a desktop computer with you? The battery pack alone would be over 100lbs. Smart phones are great for checking email while on the go, all the other features are just a bonus.

Yes. I used to carry a Apple SE-30 home with me every weekend to catch up on paperwork. Yah, I looked pretty cool huffing that thing around in that giant case. :cool2:

bigmike82
12-14-2010, 9:27 PM
"Why did you replace the laptop with the iPad?"
I haven't yet, but the iPad is tons more convenient. My netbook has to be flipped open, powered up, and then I have to wait for Ubuntu to actually start responding.

The iPad is basically ready the second you pick it up. Plus, it works very well, it's cool, the UI is slick, and it's just fun to use.

SuperSet
12-14-2010, 9:37 PM
I won one from a company function and dickered around with it for a week before boxing it back up and re-gifting it to my brother. I can see the appeal for those who are technically inclined.. I have no idea what or who Ubuntu is.. but for average users, like myself, I didn't find it much better than my 3-year old DELL laptop.

OutlawDon
12-14-2010, 9:41 PM
Save your money.

Eljay
12-14-2010, 9:48 PM
There will probably be a new model Marchish.

I have the current model and like it. It's been useful for things like when my 1.5 year old daughter was in the hospital for 5 nights - she could watch movies on it, and my wife and I could use it for longer email replies than would really be comfortable on a phone and generally get enough stuff done to make things work. In theory I could have done that with a laptop but I don't have a 3G capable one, and it was a lot better putting the iPad in her crib than a laptop and having her throw up on it or something.

We've used it as a kind of second machine while traveling - I need a real laptop to handle CF cards, photoshop, video... but it's nice to have a second machine so my wife can poke around the Internet or whatever, but it kind of sucks to carry two laptops.

It's really nice for watching things like instructional videos - it's a lot more comfortable holding one than using a laptop and I can move around with it.

There's also less concern about it getting stolen in the sense that it's a lot less expensive and it doesn't contain a lot of personal data on it.

DaveFJ80
12-14-2010, 10:17 PM
next gen iPads will be coming out soon... well, info released in Q1/Q2 of 2011. Rumor has it there will be some hardware improvements (possibly a camera).

MissionMTMan
12-14-2010, 10:26 PM
Spend the money on ammunition or a tactical course.

negolien
12-15-2010, 5:47 AM
Mobile porn?

JDay
12-15-2010, 6:02 AM
There's also less concern about it getting stolen in the sense that it's a lot less expensive and it doesn't contain a lot of personal data on it.

You can get a decent laptop for less then an iPad these days. They cost as little as $350 (less for many netbooks), and the iPad starts at $499. Check this Lenovo at the link below for an example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146943

NSR500
12-15-2010, 6:21 AM
Meh... Geek Toy.

There's more use from a Netbook than an iPad at this point. If you want an instant-on experience with the Netbook, just keep it on sleep.

Rivers
12-15-2010, 10:32 AM
You can get a decent laptop for less then an iPad these days. They cost as little as $350 (less for many netbooks), and the iPad starts at $499.

I guess that the key word is "decent". Funny that I never hear the cheap netbook/laptop owners brag about what great computers they have. I do however occasionally get pictures of how they finally store them, in a round trash can! I'm not kidding. I'm also not specifically blaming the hardware as the user can often be overwhelmed by the lousy operating system that the laptops have. Once these users see how the same task is done on a Mac, they want nothing to do with their cheap laptops. The intuitiveness of the Mac is very evident in the iPad.

I find that it's far more convenient to bring the iPad along when I'm not sure that I will need my MacBook Pro. Should a client call me with an issue, I can often resolve it over the phone. If I need to access their database or a computer, even a PC, I can - using my iPad. Same for editing text, spreadsheets, viewing PDF files, etc. The iPad is small enough to be extremely convenient, has very long battery life and is cross-platform. It's large enough that I can read the screen, use the mapping while driving, and type without accessories. A Bluetooth keyboard and mouse will also wirelessly connect. And the iPad can be connected to a TV or projector for group presentations.

AJAX22
12-15-2010, 10:37 AM
The ipad is pretty much the perfect device for playing with while you're sitting on the couch watching stuff on TV...

probably be good for class too.

Coded-Dude
12-15-2010, 10:41 AM
a great reason would be to gift it to me! :mnl:

DaveFJ80
12-15-2010, 1:10 PM
You can get a decent laptop for less then an iPad these days. They cost as little as $350 (less for many netbooks), and the iPad starts at $499.

Don't get me started on netbooks. They are no way considered a 'laptop' IMO, as the hardware & software used in them are complete garbage. If I had the choice of a netbook or iPad, I'd take the iPad any day. If I had the choice of an iPad or a cheap $399-$499 "full size" laptop (14" or 15" screen), then I'd take the laptop.

Eljay
12-15-2010, 2:26 PM
And would that hypothetical $350 netbook have 3G access? Somehow I doubt that. And to me that's part of the minimum feature set.

JDay
12-15-2010, 4:00 PM
I guess that the key word is "decent". Funny that I never hear the cheap netbook/laptop owners brag about what great computers they have. I do however occasionally get pictures of how they finally store them, in a round trash can! I'm not kidding. I'm also not specifically blaming the hardware as the user can often be overwhelmed by the lousy operating system that the laptops have. Once these users see how the same task is done on a Mac, they want nothing to do with their cheap laptops. The intuitiveness of the Mac is very evident in the iPad.

That Lenovo is not "cheap", it also has far more power then an iPad. You're just spouting out the typical Apple fanboy nonsense. Windows 7 is also far from lousy, in fact it is more secure then OSX.

JDay
12-15-2010, 4:03 PM
Don't get me started on netbooks. They are no way considered a 'laptop' IMO, as the hardware & software used in them are complete garbage. If I had the choice of a netbook or iPad, I'd take the iPad any day. If I had the choice of an iPad or a cheap $399-$499 "full size" laptop (14" or 15" screen), then I'd take the laptop.

The link I posted goes to a laptop, a full featured one. The Core 2 Duo is just as fast as the newer Core i3 processors. iPads cannot come close to the performance or usability at 2x the price. You can say whatever you want but the fact remains that the iPad is nothing more then Apple's latest gimmick toy.

JDay
12-15-2010, 4:05 PM
And would that hypothetical $350 netbook have 3G access? Somehow I doubt that. And to me that's part of the minimum feature set.

That is not a netbook (it's a ThinkPad), you should try following the link before you comment. And for around $20 - $30 more you can buy a 3G network adapter from your provider (besides, AT&T sucks) and you still save over $200 over the price of a 3G iPad.

Kestryll
12-15-2010, 4:08 PM
Don't get me started on netbooks. They are no way considered a 'laptop' IMO, as the hardware & software used in them are complete garbage. If I had the choice of a netbook or iPad, I'd take the iPad any day. If I had the choice of an iPad or a cheap $399-$499 "full size" laptop (14" or 15" screen), then I'd take the laptop.

I don't know what netbooks you've been looking at but the hardware and software on mine are the same as on desktop PCs.

My first netbook had an 8.9" screen, a 1.6Ghz processor, 1Gb of RAM, 120Gb HDD, wireless G and 10/100 NIC and ran full Windows XP Home without a hiccup at all for 2 years.
I just wiped it to give to my niece for school since I got a new one.

This one has an 11" screen, 1.8Ghz CPU, 1.5Gb of RAM, 160Gb HDD, wireless G and 10/100 NIC, runs WinXP Home and even comes with an Nvidia graphics card!

I want a 3G iPad for the novelty but I'd rather have my netbook any day of the week!

Eljay
12-15-2010, 6:04 PM
That is not a netbook (it's a ThinkPad), you should try following the link before you comment. And for around $20 - $30 more you can buy a 3G network adapter from your provider (besides, AT&T sucks) and you still save over $200 over the price of a 3G iPad.

You mean the link that goes out to a closeout item that you can't actually buy that doesn't include 3G? Not helpful.

ZX-10R
12-15-2010, 6:05 PM
Macbook.

sevensix2x51
12-15-2010, 8:17 PM
I don't know what netbooks you've been looking at but the hardware and software on mine are the same as on desktop PCs.

My first netbook had an 8.9" screen, a 1.6Ghz processor, 1Gb of RAM, 120Gb HDD, wireless G and 10/100 NIC and ran full Windows XP Home without a hiccup at all for 2 years.
I just wiped it to give to my niece for school since I got a new one.

This one has an 11" screen, 1.8Ghz CPU, 1.5Gb of RAM, 160Gb HDD, wireless G and 10/100 NIC, runs WinXP Home and even comes with an Nvidia graphics card!

I want a 3G iPad for the novelty but I'd rather have my netbook any day of the week!

they make netbooks with dedicated graphics cards now!?! :eek:
hmm, interesting.. one of these days. gotta buy more scratchers, or work more overtime...... im thinking scratchers. :D

shootingblanks00
12-15-2010, 9:10 PM
Uhh you need an iPad cuz you need something to match your iTamp--- oh never mind lol

Sabot
12-15-2010, 9:28 PM
Buy one to help Obama jumpstart the economy. :beatdeadhorse5:

tankerman
12-15-2010, 9:43 PM
I purchased one for my kids (5 and 7 years old). They screw with it in the car on road trips, watch movies, play games etc...

bigmike82
12-16-2010, 11:39 AM
iPads are very cool pieces of tech that are a pleasure for (most) people to use.

Cheap, crappy laptops aren't (yes, I have had several)(no, I haven't found a sub-600 laptop that doesn't qualify as cheap/crappy).

For something to keep around the house, by the couch, on trips, whateve you, iPads are very cool. If you want to use it as your main computer...yeah, not so much. But most people don't buy iPads to replace their desktops and laptops.

U2BassAce
12-18-2010, 9:21 PM
IPADs are great. I guess it depends on how much disposable income you have? A lot like firearms the more you invest in them the more you can have the exact tool to fit the required job. My MacBook Pro will do everything my IPAD will do. But a lot of times the IPAD is what is with me. If all I am doing is reading, watching video or movies, listening to music (then maybe my IPOD is all I need), surfing the web, or showing people photos, then the IPAD is all I need.

Small, light, durable, great battery, instant on and off and beautiful screen. It has its place in my arsenal.

sfwdiy
12-19-2010, 11:20 PM
My wife managed to con her dad into getting her an iPad for Christmas/Birthday (her birthday is Dec. 24th), so I guess we'll see how that works out.

I'm kinda pissed though. I was planning on getting it for her as a surprise and now I'm stuck without a gift, so I'm in a bit of a bind. Sh*t, I guess I'm off to the Beverly Center after work tomorrow.

--B

BilletGarage
12-19-2010, 11:45 PM
I have a blackberry, an iPad 3G, and a desktop PC. Used to own a PC Laptop but gave it to my Mom after purchasing the iPad and not having booted the laptop up in 2 months. It all depends on your needs but the iPad for me is the perfect intermediary between my Blackberry and desktop PC. I am on the go constantly and with iTeleport Connect (remote desktop app), my desktop PC is always with me, both monitors! I only have about 30 apps on my iPad but they all get used. One of the best things for me about the iPad is NO BOOT UP and LONG BATTERY LIFE. If I'm out and need to look something up, I can in seconds. I find I use it at home too alot more than I thought I would. It's the perfect size for carrying around the house, lounging on the couch or in bed. Not an apple guy at all but, I have to admit, if it had Flash support and front/rear cameras, it would be dang near perfect IMHO. Anyway, again, it all depends on your needs, but for me, it's paid for itself in increased productivity several times over and I was the biggest skeptic ever upon purchase. Good luck.

TNP'R
12-19-2010, 11:54 PM
If it incorporated flash I might have considered it but since it doesn't i'll pass.I really don't do much in the living room except watch movies so I really don't want to be messing around with an Ipad when while i'm watching it.My little man cave is where I get my nerd on so no use in an Ipad really.

BilletGarage
12-20-2010, 12:15 AM
I should also note, you can get around the lack of flash support on the iPad with a remote desktop app bridge to a PC or Mac. Do this all the time. A bit of a pain, but solves the problem most of the time. However, no iPad remote desktop apps have sound support that I know of, so visual only.

bigmike82
12-20-2010, 9:33 AM
I actully got one yesterday (early xmas present from the gf), and it's freakin' sweet.

It can be expensive to own and use. I spent like 20 bucks on software in my first half hour alone...

That said, it's a breeze to use. The apps are cool, the screen is amazing, and they've got some kickass games that run surprisingly well on something so small (RAGE HD is the perfect example). The notetaking apps are pretty cool (so you can basically replace yoru paper notepads with the iPad). I wish someone ported over the rifle log books (the write in the rain ones) to the iPad.

All in all, it's a great little device.

Cbr1000Rider
12-20-2010, 2:31 PM
"The Iphone! It's the Ipad that is smaller, can make phone calls and take photos!!"

Only this day in age can a company make a bigger, crappier device than something so perfect such as the iphone and slap an $800 price tag on it with an apple logo and people go bananas over. Steve Jobs could take a ****.. put some buttons on it.. slap an apple logo on it and clone it 2 million times and have people waiting in line for 2 nights to pay $1000 for it.

Our own ego is our greatest enemy.

The Ipad? I'll take two.

bigmike82
12-20-2010, 2:34 PM
*rolls eyes*

Yeah, that's it. The iPad is popular because of marketing...

Not because it's a slick device that works very well right out of the box.

Not because it's got kick-butt graphics.

Not because it's fun to use.

Not because it's so damn versatile.

Cbr1000Rider
12-20-2010, 2:37 PM
*rolls eyes*

Yeah, that's it. The iPad is popular because of marketing...

Not because it's a slick device that works very well right out of the box.

Not because it's got kick-butt graphics.

Not because it's fun to use.

Not because it's so damn versatile.

Yah no totally.

Oh wait I thought you were describing the Iphone.

Cbr1000Rider
12-20-2010, 2:44 PM
iPads are great for the living room couch.

See a cool show on the History Channel and want to know more?

Pull up Wikipedia on the iPad. Check your email. Feed some trolls on 4chan. Pull up some recipes for dinner. The list is virtually endless.

I literally Lol'ed. How would someone not be able to do this on their Iphone?

For the same price someone could get a nice laptop with hard drive space where you can install actual programs on and have full internet capability.

I'm sorry but when I see someone with an Ipad I either think...

1. They have an ego problem
2. They are in denial about it being so useless compared to a smartphone, they pretend to "use" something they paid $800 for.
3. They got it as a gift and carry it around in case the person who bought it for them sees them.
4. They voted yes on prop 8 because they want to marry Steve Jobs
5. They have sausage fingers so can't use an iphone.
6. You are too dumb to know they purposely left out features such as camera so they could sell you the Ipad 2 next year for an even higher price with a camera.

If you have one, sell it now lol.

bigmike82
12-20-2010, 2:56 PM
"Oh wait I thought you were describing the Iphone."
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Have you tried reading books/mags/newspapers on a 3.5" screen over an extended period of time? I have, and it sucks.

On a 9.7" screen, however, it's quite nice.

"For the same price someone could get a nice laptop with hard drive space where you can install actual programs on and full internet capability."
Sorry, try again. For 550 (the cost of a basic iPad after tax), you can get a 500 dollar laptop. 500 dollar laptops are crap. I've tried several. There's a huge difference.

For the rest of your points....
1. Hell yeah.
2. Nope. Smart phones have a place as your primary communications device. An iPad supplements this.
3. Possible but not really.
4. Lol. The pure ignorance in that statement is mind-boggling.
5. Yes, but I can use my DroidX just fine.

Cbr1000Rider
12-20-2010, 2:59 PM
"Oh wait I thought you were describing the Iphone."
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Have you tried reading books/mags/newspapers on a 3.5" screen over an extended period of time? I have, and it sucks.

On a 9.7" screen, however, it's quite nice.

"For the same price someone could get a nice laptop with hard drive space where you can install actual programs on and full internet capability."
Sorry, try again. For 550 (the cost of a basic iPad after tax), you can get a 500 dollar laptop. 500 dollar laptops are crap. I've tried several. There's a huge difference.

For the rest of your points....
1. Hell yeah.
2. Nope. Smart phones have a place as your primary communications device. An iPad supplements this.
3. Possible but not really.
4. Lol. The pure ignorance in that statement is mind-boggling.
5. Yes, but I can use my DroidX just fine.

Depending what you want to do with the laptop.. check newegg you can get a deal. I read on my laptop propped up on my lap and scroll with my mouse.

Ok I will amend it..

6. You are so filthy rich the bigger screen size is worth $800.

wash
12-20-2010, 3:07 PM
The iPad has a place but I went with an iPod touch 4g instead and will stick with that until the iPad gets some competition and a couple product generations.

The fact that the iPad doesn't have native 720p HD resolution is stupid and continuing to leave out flash support is worse.

After a few iPad competitors mature Apple will have to react and give the consumer what we want unless they are happy with a 15-25% market share (when they could have 80% if they play their cards right).

bigmike82
12-20-2010, 3:13 PM
"check newegg you can get a deal. I read on my laptop propped up on my lap and scroll with my mouse."

Yeah, that's where I got mine from. ;) Point is, for 500 bucks, you're not getting a *good* laptop. The build quality is generally crap. I've bought cheap laptops from all the major manufactors at the bargain prices, and the the difference in quality is quite evident.

"6. You are so filthy rich the bigger screen size is worth $800."
$550. That difference in screen size gives it a whole host of additional functionality. It bridges the realm from smartphone to desktop. It can absolutely replace a standard laptop, depending on your needs.

Certainly, it's not for everyone. For some people, it would just sit there gathering dust. For others, it's a great piece of gear. It really depends on how you'd use it.

"The fact that the iPad doesn't have native 720p HD resolution is stupid and continuing to leave out flash support is worse."
720p is essentially 1280 by 720. The iPad is capable of 1280 by 768....HD looks fine. The lack of flash is a pain in the ***, but that'll be fixed.

wash
12-20-2010, 3:22 PM
Sorry, iPad resolution is 1024x768, not 1280x768...

It might look OK but it's scaled and 4*3 instead of 16*9.

It was a dumb move with all the HD content out there and very little new 4*3 content in the future.

bigmike82
12-20-2010, 3:26 PM
Ahhh, you're right. I didn't read that right. My bad.

Davidwhitewolf
12-22-2010, 4:14 PM
"Oh wait I thought you were describing the Iphone."
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Have you tried reading books/mags/newspapers on a 3.5" screen over an extended period of time? I have, and it sucks.

On a 9.7" screen, however, it's quite nice....

Replace "reading books/mags/newspapers" with "watching porn together in bed" and that's why my wife and I are thinking about getting an iPad. The handheld nature of the iPhone is excellent in such situations, but the images are way too small on the iPhone. The iPad looks to be optimal for that purpose. :)

mur
12-25-2010, 8:53 AM
Got an iPad for Xmas, it will not replace my notebook, however I like it. Posting from bed now. I find a bunch of items on the iPhone are just too small, this de ice looks like a perfect fit. One thing that sucks is that my iPhone game apps will not sync, I can't play the same game on both devices :(

Mastermason11
12-25-2010, 10:00 AM
Because the iPad is fantastic... But you may just want to wait for the new model that will come out in March... Much more better...

DiscoBayJoe
12-25-2010, 10:10 AM
With Netflix and Slingbox, it's the perfect portable media player.

JDay
12-25-2010, 2:02 PM
With Netflix and Slingbox, it's the perfect portable media player.

Right, because it's comfortable having the hold the display during the entire movie/show, and the built in speakers are so much better than a home theater system. :rolleyes:

MontClaire
12-25-2010, 2:05 PM
wait till they have iPad2 out then buy!

DannyInSoCal
12-25-2010, 2:13 PM
I'm on mine now. Great for when you don't want to lug around a laptop. Plus it's fun to play strip air hockey with my sexy wife...

high_revs
12-25-2010, 3:21 PM
can always use it like these guys

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JDay
12-25-2010, 4:14 PM
can always use it like these guys

F9XNfWNooz4

What a waste of money, they could have got better keyboards for that price.

sfwdiy
12-26-2010, 12:50 PM
Right, because it's comfortable having the hold the display during the entire movie/show, and the built in speakers are so much better than a home theater system. :rolleyes:

I think the key word there was portable. And with my noise-canceling headphones, it actually wouldn't be too bad.

My wife ended up getting one and it's actually a very useful little device.

My analogy would be that of a carry-pistol. Sure, a full size 1911 is great, but are you really gonna carry it everywhere? You're much more likely to throw a little .38 in your pocket when you head out the door.

The iPad is the P3AT, the 15" laptop is the 1911. I'll actually take the iPad places I wouldn't bring a full size laptop.

--B

jonyg
12-26-2010, 2:25 PM
You mentioned utility. Quite frankly, its a nice novelty, but its basically one of two things:

An oversized iTouch/smartphone. Too big to carry around.
or
A weaksauce touchscreen laptop.

Sure, there are plenty of things that make it "cool", but everything useful that it does can be done better by a smartphone or a laptop/netbook.

winnre
12-26-2010, 4:33 PM
Angry birds!

JDay
12-26-2010, 4:41 PM
I think the key word there was portable. And with my noise-canceling headphones, it actually wouldn't be too bad.

My wife ended up getting one and it's actually a very useful little device.

My analogy would be that of a carry-pistol. Sure, a full size 1911 is great, but are you really gonna carry it everywhere? You're much more likely to throw a little .38 in your pocket when you head out the door.

The iPad is the P3AT, the 15" laptop is the 1911. I'll actually take the iPad places I wouldn't bring a full size laptop.

--B

That is a bad analogy, a full size 1911 is plenty easy to carry around thanks to the single stack magazine. If a 15" laptop is too big, you can always go with a 13" model and have a much more capable machine. And you can watch movies on it without having to hold it upright.


You mentioned utility. Quite frankly, its a nice novelty, but its basically one of two things:

An oversized iTouch/smartphone. Too big to carry around.
or
A weaksauce touchscreen laptop.

Sure, there are plenty of things that make it "cool", but everything useful that it does can be done better by a smartphone or a laptop/netbook.

^^^ This.

atto
12-26-2010, 4:44 PM
Buy one... Steve Jobs needs a new solid gold toilet for the maid!!

sfwdiy
12-26-2010, 5:02 PM
Buy one... Steve Jobs needs a new solid gold toilet for the maid!!

Now that's funny. :rofl2:

--B

bigmike82
12-27-2010, 10:00 AM
I got one over Christmas.

The iPad is hands down better than any netbook I've used. It's easier to use, has a far better screen, and is always on. I push a button and it instantly turns on. It doesn't replace my desktop, and it doesn't replace my DroidX. But it does become my device of choice when I'm not in front of my computer.

For me, the three things it does best are:
1) Quick web browsing while watching TV (checking email, wikipedia, etc).
2) COOKING. The epicurious app is awesome. I can hang the iPad off a cabinet and have the display up while I'm preparing the food. I can also use it as a music player (Pandora). As I have neither a TV nor a stereo in the kitchen, it works very well for both purposes.
3) Reading. The screen is more pleasent to read than my kindle, so it's great for bed-side browsing and reading.

It's an oustanding device for what I use it for. The netbook, phone and desktop wouldn't work nearly as well.

wash
12-27-2010, 3:51 PM
You mentioned utility. Quite frankly, its a nice novelty, but its basically one of two things:

An oversized iTouch/smartphone. Too big to carry around.
or
A weaksauce touchscreen laptop.

Sure, there are plenty of things that make it "cool", but everything useful that it does can be done better by a smartphone or a laptop/netbook.
I was just discussing exercise with a lady friend of mine. She suggested a Zumba kind of dance class.

I'm sure it's great but it's not something I would do.

Between something I will do and something I won't do, I better stick to the exercises that I will do...

An iPad might be a compromise in many ways but it is more usable than a smart phone or a laptop in different respects. It has a better interface than a smart phone (mostly because of the bigger screen) and it's more portable than a laptop (because it has a smaller screen, no keyboard and very good battery life).

If you won't use a smart phone because the interface sucks and you won't drag around a laptop because it's too bulky and the battery life sucks, iPad is a solution that you might use.

It's not for everyone but there are lots of people who will find value in it.