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mif_slim
12-13-2010, 10:17 AM
My google-foo sucks today.. so, I just wanted to ask.. if you guys gotta link or know the WWII calibers please list them or link me one?

I know of

7.62x39, 7.62x54r, .303 brit, 30-06 for the larger rifle calibers... please add to the list? Thanks.

11011500a
12-13-2010, 10:24 AM
8x33mm ,8x57mm ,8x56r ,6.5x50r,7.7,6.5x52,7.5x54
7.62x39 was after ww2 (1947)

migz
12-13-2010, 10:27 AM
.30 carbine
.45 acp
.50 bmg
.455 webley

Sutcliffe
12-13-2010, 10:38 AM
German primary rife/MG round was the 7.92X57(or 8MM Mauser)
The STG-44 used the groundbreaking 7.92X33 cartridge.
9MM Parabellum for most service handguns.

The Russians used a 7.62X25 for handguns and SMG's

Japanese used the newer 7.7 MM rifle cartridge, but continued to use their superior 6.5MM Arisaka as well. Their primary handgun caliber was the 8MM Nambu.

The USA had the .30-06, .45 ACP(Handguns and SMG's)9MM Parabellum(SMG), and .30 carbine.

The Italians had 9MM Parabellum for handguns and SMG's and, like Japan, couldn't decide on just one main battle round. The 6.5 Carcano and the newer 7.35 MM

Pretty safe to say that any satellite country that had adopted the mauser 98 design was nearly always the 7.92/8MM Mauser.

Not a complete list but hits most of the highlights.

mif_slim
12-13-2010, 11:15 AM
Sweet! That helps a bunch! Keep em coming if there's any more.

I added 7.62x39 simply because it was around that era... But I know it don't come until after.

Thanks again.

quagmiles
12-13-2010, 11:52 AM
Don't forget the most important caliber, .32 the one Hitler offed himself with.

slowjonn
12-13-2010, 12:43 PM
You could also add .22lr that was used in training rifles. 12 gauge was also in use.

tonelar
12-13-2010, 12:46 PM
...
The USA had the .30-06, .45 ACP(Handguns and SMG's)9MM Parabellum(SMG), and .30 carbine
...

I had no idea the US fielded any 9mm in WWII (was under the impression their smg was .45 in the M1 and M3).

Sailormilan2
12-13-2010, 12:57 PM
Don't forget the 8x63 Swedish.

IEShooter
12-13-2010, 1:56 PM
I didn't see the 7.62X54 that the Mosin Nagant fired. The Mosin was the primary infantry rifle of the Soviets. Literally millions of them were made and can still be found for under $100.

Just bought my first one and with the solid steel butt plate, it kicks like an angry mule.

Spaceghost
12-13-2010, 1:56 PM
It because they didn't. The Germans used it.

I had no idea the US fielded any 9mm in WWII (was under the impression their smg was .45 in the M1 and M3).

xibunkrlilkidsx
12-13-2010, 1:58 PM
.55 in the boys anti tank round.
20mm cannons + other misc cannon rounds im sure.

are we talking in rifle format or the hole shebang(anti aircraft guns, guns used on aircraft, etc?)

How wide do we want to make the list of countries. USA, Britian, Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy were some of the largest involved. But you also get China, Australia, New Zeland, French(Regular Army and resistance),+ many other misc eastern European countries that got overrun by Germany early on(Poland etc.)

Wikipedia: Complete list of ww2 firearms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_firearms. can use that for a little more accurate listing.

USA:
.30-06
45acp
50bmg
.55boys

British:
.303
.455 Webley
.55boys

Russian
7.62x54R
7.62x25
12.7x108
14.5x114

Germany
9mm Parabellum
7.92X57(or 8MM Mauser)
7.92X33 cartridge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_firearms_of_Germany
Complete list of firearms from Wikipedia.

Japan:
7.7 Arisaka
6.5 Arisaka
8.5 Nambu

Italy:
The 6.5 Carcano
7.35 MM




If i miss any lets try and keep this one list going and expanding so, everytime we add a caliber/ Country copy this list in order to keep a some what organized view on things.

Sutcliffe
12-13-2010, 2:24 PM
I had no idea the US fielded any 9mm in WWII (was under the impression their smg was .45 in the M1 and M3).

I know that the M3 was a dual caliber weapon but the requirement for the 9MM version could have been a postwar attempt at adopting the 9MM for NATO usage.

hybridatsun350
12-13-2010, 2:53 PM
Don't forget the 8x63 Swedish.

I would think 6.5x55 Swedish would be more common.

HotRails
12-13-2010, 3:25 PM
I had read that the Germans had something in the works similiar to the Vulcan cannon. I don't know if they ever built a prototype. Maybe if they did build a prototype it had a novel caliber?

Sailormilan2
12-13-2010, 4:30 PM
I had read that the Germans had something in the works similiar to the Vulcan cannon. I don't know if they ever built a prototype. Maybe if they did build a prototype it had a novel caliber?

What they were working on was a cannon with a revolving chamber. IIRC, it had 4 chambers. The British based a lot of their aircraft cannons on it.

Eddie1965
12-13-2010, 5:52 PM
I believe some US officers carried .38 SPL revolvers; and don't forget Patton's .357.

smle-man
12-13-2010, 5:59 PM
Don't forget the various 6.5mm chamberings from the Netherlands, Greece, Romania, and Norway; The 7.7mm rimmed used by the Japanese and the Italians; the 7.92mm rimmed used by the Netherlands; the 12.7 and 14.5mm by the Soviets; 7.92mm anti tank round used by Poland and Germany; 9mm Glisenti; 8mm Nambu, .380 revolver; .25, .32, .380 auto pistol rounds; 8mm French Ordnance, 7.65mm long French auto; 7.63 mauser; 7.62x25 Tokarev; .45 Colt and .30-30 (really!) used by Canada for their home guard;

mif_slim
12-13-2010, 6:08 PM
Sticking to rifle mostly but it's intresting to see pistol calibers too.

Rekrab
12-13-2010, 7:06 PM
7.63 Mauser
9mm Largo

Those are the only two I haven't seen on this thread yet. Was the 9mm Nambu not in use during WW2? How about the weird round used in the Nagant revolvers?

mosinnagantm9130
12-13-2010, 7:14 PM
7.5x54 french. Used in the MAS 36.

7.62x38r, used in Nagant revolvers.

Noonanda
12-13-2010, 8:02 PM
7.62x39 was after ww2 (1947)

Actually this round was developed in 1943 (hence the designation M-43) and did see use during the last months of the war. The prototype of the SKS-45 was tested in combat against the germans in Poland and eastern Germany.

Hell the SKS design saw use during the whole war as the SKS-45 is just a PTRS antitank gun reduced in size.

Rifle/intermediate Calibers of the Main combatants

Germany 7.92x57mm and 7.92x33Kurtz intermediate cartridge
Italy 6.5x52 and 7.35x51 Carcano
Japan 6.5x50 and 7.7x58 Arisaka
Finland 7.62x53R and 7.62x54R (they were aligned with germany against russia only)


England/Canada/Australia .303 British and .30-06(lend-lease rifles after Dunkirk)
France 850mmR and 7.5x54
USA .30-06 and .30 Carbine
Russian 7.62x54R and 7.62x39
Poland 7.92x57mm

Participants but not

brickhead
12-14-2010, 12:15 AM
dont forget 7.5x55 swiss

Noonanda
12-14-2010, 5:11 AM
dont forget 7.5x55 swiss

who did the swiss fight with or against? thats why I said participants not spectators;)

slowjonn
12-14-2010, 9:23 AM
who did the swiss fight with or against? thats why I said participants not spectators;)

Based on that, all the French calibers need to be removed too.:D

mif_slim
12-14-2010, 10:42 AM
I've learned a bunch! thanks for everyone who replied. ;)

Noonanda
12-15-2010, 11:28 AM
Based on that, all the French calibers need to be removed too.:D

well there were the free french who escaped at Dunkirk but then the english and US rearmed them lol.

Talking about the French performance in WW2 makes me think of Groundskeeper Willie from the Simpsons or Vinnie Jones from Eurotrip(and yes I know its wrong to think of them this way but it is still funny). Also warning there is some "Rough" language in the Eurotrip clip.

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