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SVT_Fox
12-12-2010, 1:51 PM
ive been doing the hopps solvent and oil, patches ect ect, brass/copper scrubbing all that for years but I want to step it up and maybe purchase a kit that uses a power drill or something similar to do a super scrub and clean.

what are all you guys doing?

please tell

freonr22
12-12-2010, 2:03 PM
anyway to remove action, and soak entirely in kerosene for 1-2 days? any additonal comments to this?

SVT_Fox
12-12-2010, 2:11 PM
not a gunsmith so thats out of the question


seems super overboard, why not just soak the entire gun minus the wood, not to mention there is no scrubbing involved either?

Paul S
12-12-2010, 2:25 PM
ive been doing the hopps solvent and oil, patches ect ect, brass/copper scrubbing all that for years but I want to step it up and maybe purchase a kit that uses a power drill or something similar to do a super scrub and clean.

what are all you guys doing?

please tell

Hey my friend...you missed the extensive discussion on just this very topic in the gunsmithing section

go here...read the whole thread...very informative... also check out some of the links...good stuff..cheap...simple and effective

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=368416&highlight=bore+cleaning

HTH

SVT_Fox
12-12-2010, 6:15 PM
thanks buddy, I figured it was covered, I just know my CnRs are dark and dirty while my ars and aks are all new and chrome lined, we are a different breed for sure

Noonanda
12-12-2010, 8:48 PM
this thing works, home made electronic bore cleaner

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/copperout/index.asp

Interloper
12-12-2010, 9:06 PM
I had a Mle. 1916 Berthier with an ugly rusty bore. After all else had failed I ended up pushing some super fine steel wool soaked on Hoppe's down bore. It cleaned up real quick after that.

El Gato
12-12-2010, 9:23 PM
Jb non embedding bore cleaner....

dont use steel wool on a steel bore..bad juju imho...
JB is THE TICKET...

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1160/Product/J_B_reg__NON_EMBEDDING_BORE_CLEANING_COMPOUND


soak the gun for a few days... by running patches with Kroil on it...(cotton patches)
use a cleaning JAG that fits tightly...

something like this...

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=5647/Product/COATED_ROD_ACCESSORIES
then wet the patches with kroil and smear JB on it...
20 passes down the bore with each patch and repeat...
when the bore is completely clean... a few patches only oiled...

then just run a few dry patches to clean it out

my 1903 springfield had been in a minor fire...stock singed but not burnt...the bore looked like a sewer pipe...
was going to re-barrel to 6.5-06
local rifle guru told me to try cleaning with JB...
can't live without my JB now...

I did about 500 passes down the bore as above...it was really bad and it takes less time than you might think... the bore was only about 25 cal with all of the crud when I started...
turns out it was a 2 groove barrel...and shiny as a marine fresh out of boot...

I then put it in a stock, mounted a scope and got it to shoot point of aim...

then took a box of old federal 165 gr (red/white box ) factory... and put 5 rounds into the same hole at 100 yds from sandbags...you can almost cover the group with a nickel..(still have the target)

since then I have killed alot of stuff with that rifle...
it has not been out of the stock since that day either...
and it still shoots better than me...

#3 son killed his first deer with it last year...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=228370

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Old barrels can be good barrels...

by contrast...

I just sold a 1892 with a very rough bore... it was clean.. just badly pitted ...
would still shoot really well ... no problem with 4in groups of my 32-20 handloads at 100 yds with open sights...just very rough...

Interloper
12-12-2010, 9:30 PM
...dont use steel wool on a steel bore..bad juju imho...


Ordinarily, I agree. Steel wool, those green scrubby pads, and power tools belong as far away from guns as possible. But after you have tried everything else and your bore is still so rusty it's growing barnacles, it's time for drastic measures.
In the case of this Berthier carbine it turned a sewer pipe with no rifling to speak of into a nice shiny shooter with good groove definition. :cool:

El Gato
12-12-2010, 9:34 PM
Ordinarily, I agree. Steel wool, those green scrubby pads, and power tools belong as far away from guns as possible. But after you have tried everything else and your bore is still so rusty it's growing barnacles, it's time for drastic measures.
In the case of this Berthier carbine it turned a sewer pipe with no rifling to speak of into a nice shiny shooter with good groove definition. :cool:

ever tried the JB?

I hadn't ...
now I've consumed the cool-aid...joined the cult...whatever..

Interloper
12-12-2010, 9:38 PM
ever tried the JB?

I hadn't ...
now I've consumed the cool-aid...joined the cult...whatever..

I will totally try it. I tend to be drawn to rifles with...um..."character". I'll order some for my next old warrior project and see how it goes. :)

Flyin Brian
12-12-2010, 9:47 PM
I'm also a JB user and it works great on these crusty old Finnish Mosin barrels :D

El Gato
12-12-2010, 9:51 PM
I will totally try it. I tend to be drawn to rifles with...um..."character". I'll order some for my next old warrior project and see how it goes. :)

and the magic kroil....

kroil creeps and will seep/creep into and between all of the gunk and the barrel...crazy good stuff...will creep right through rust...I just oil the patch and run a couple of soaked patches down the bore... been known to simply squirt the stuff down the bore and then run an oiled patch ...do it like once an hour during the evening.. like every time you load 300 rds on your dillon.. or something...and then let it sit overnight...
then try the JB the next night... the more you soak the better...I've seen copper fouling come off with just patches.. like chunks of it...

another trick is to kroil then copper bore brush (stainless if it is a really bad bore) then patches of JB... until it's shiny... maybe with pits.. but that doesn't always kill accuracy...which copper fouling seems to do....

when the accuracy falls off I clean the barrels...
had a mini 14 with umpteen thousands of rounds through it as a teaching/client gun...
sent it to a gunsmith.. it was worth the 60.00 bucks to clean it... and he cleaned everything... but usually a job I do...
anyway.. he turned me on to this and it seems to work really really well...
magic foaming bore cleaner... used it to clean up an AR upper I have for sale..

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26069/Product/FOAMING_BORE_CLEANER

SVT_Fox
12-14-2010, 9:16 AM
awesome info C&Rs boys! love it!

freonr22
12-14-2010, 9:19 AM
not a gunsmith so thats out of the question


seems super overboard, why not just soak the entire gun minus the wood, not to mention there is no scrubbing involved either?
thats what i meant :)