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07-07-2006, 8:50 AM
What do the Professionals Say? – Here is a review of the SpecOps by a State Trooper and Trainer. At his request, I have deleted the name of the large State agency he works for. This review can be shared with your customers:

Dear Knoxx Industries,

First off I would like to apologize for the lateness of this email. As you know I am still a working traffic Trooper, and thus my time in the office is very little. I would also like to thank you for your understanding during this T&E period. The past several month have seen a lot of change at the _HP, and __ DPS.

I have been a firearms instructor with the _HP going on 7 years now. One of my least favorite responsibilities is training, and qualification with the department issued Remington 870 shotguns. I personally love the weapon system, but alas, my troopers hate it with a passion. Our problems with the 870 center around two main areas: 1. Recoil, and 2. Proper fit. Because of these two issues few troopers like the 870. So training and qualification is a non-stop ***** fest for most troopers. I have been on the look out for ways to fix those two aforementioned problems. Our department issue shotguns have a hodge-podge mix of factory stocks, and Speedfeed stocks. These two options are the only way we can try to make guns fit troopers.

Then I met you at the 2005 Shot Show. You showed me one of the prototypes of the SpecOps stock. I thought this might be an answer to “our” shotgun problems. You explained all the features and the fact that it (SpecOps Stock) would reduce felt recoil approximately 70%. I was extremely skeptical about this claim, but I wanted to try one out nonetheless. I received the stock and was impressed with the quality. I installed it on one of our spare 870's. It installed quickly and easily. It was rock solid. I grabbed a case (200 rounds) of rifled slugs and left for the range. I then loaded and fired seven slugs as fast as I could work the slide. I was like, “Ok, it still kicks pretty good.” Then I remembered you telling me to shoot a regular 870 for comparison. I did so. That is when the light bulb went on for me. I then proceeded to fire the rest of the case through the 870 with the SpecOps stock. I also let a fellow instructor test drive it as well. We liked it so much we put four cases of “00” Buck and Slugs through it. I was no longer a skeptic.

What became very apparent to me was that the recoil characteristics of the 870 changed, reduced recoil and muzzle flip. Once I got a solid handle on this change I was able to make headshots on a standard FBI Q target at 15 yards a lot faster than with my 870 equipped with a Speedfeed stock. I am now to the point where I can do this almost as fast as I can work the action. I can make center of mass hits just as fast at 25 yards too.

I handed the 870 with the SpecOps stock to some of our troopers in _____ to test out. Most were immediately impressed or converted after firing their own gun. I was scheduled to run shotgun qualification for ___ DPS in _______ City. I was very much looking forward to this for many reasons. Chiefly command staff was going to be present. I knew when command staff fired the 870 with the SpecOps stock, we could get some ordered. Also I knew some of our weaker shooters were going to qualify without the headache. At the last minute I was re-tasked to Field Train a new Trooper. So I gave the shotgun with the SpecOps stock to the guy taking my place. I explained the proper use of the stock, and the precautions. He made sure the correct people put rounds down range with the SpecOps 870. All were impressed. At least 15 of our officers stated they were going to purchase this themselves. Command Staff was impressed as well. Hopefully we will be ordering SpecOps stocks with the next budget.

There is one example that I would like to share about your stock. First let me set a little background. I have a female officer that is plagued with problems with the 870. She is a veteran trooper with more then 15 years experience. She is haunted by a good many old injuries. She failed to qualify with her 870. I went through the standard remedial training on the fundamentals. I then handed her the 870 with the SpecOps, adjusted it for the proper size. Explained how it worked. The trooper opted to immediately re-qualify instead of a warm up and re-qualify. She fired a 90%. The look on her face when I told her the score was priceless. She has advised me that she placed an order for a SpecOps stock.

In closing I am keeping the SpecOps stock, and have installed it on my issue 870. Just let me know how much I owe you!! Also our PIO has yet to get back to me on the issue of allowing the _HP, __ DPS to be used. You can use my name alone if you wish. I will stand by your product proudly.

Thank you again,

Trp. James Steele

Couldn't say it any better myself.


James R.
07-07-2006, 9:53 AM
Sweet, mine showed up yesterday.


I walked over to OSH all set to buy the really long allen wrenches ($35) then decided against it. I didn't need the stock on the gun so badly that I couldn't wait to see if my socket allen wrenches or just plain old hand held L shaped ones might work. Got home, pulled off the old stock and was surprised to see all I needed was a large flat blade screwdriver, not even a long one. The bolt thru the Rem stock is like 10" long so the part you actually have to turn is almost immediately behind the recoil pad. I had a set of Bondus ball end wrenches and the 3/16" one was long enough to do the job. Put a little blue loctite on the screw and threaded it in. Grabbed the end of the allen wrench with a pair of pliers and gave it a little more love to snug it up good and it's done.

Only observations are, the safety is a little harder to get at now, but it's not terrible. Rifle is better balanced, before it was a lot more front heavy.

One of the pins that supports the spring in the grip worries me a bit though. The grip wall is a certain thickness and I'd say the pin was resting on 1/2 of that thickness. I pulled the little plate off the bottom of the grip and saw the spring that this thing is supporting is pretty massive. I was able to scoot the pin over till the circlip was resting on the inside wall which brought the face of the pin almost flush to the outside of the grip. Who knows, now it's probably not resting on as much meat on the opposite side which you can't see well due to the smaller diameter of the hole. If anything it seems that pin could stand to be a bit longer. Possibly the top and bottom pins are the same length yet the grip tapers towards the top or something? I'm not looking at it this very moment. I suppose long as it doesn't fail at this point historically then the plastic must be sufficiently strong to handle the load with it bearing only ~1/2 the meat.


James R.