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1911man
11-29-2010, 6:06 PM
If you had a choice between hunting with a 9mm. 16" barrel carbine or a 223 using a 75gr. bullet in a 16" carbine which would you think would make a cleaner kill on a 150 lb. Pig? Within 100yards.

davebw226
11-29-2010, 6:18 PM
in my mind, neither is ideal but I would go with the 223 and only take a shot where you feel very confident about shot placement. just my $.02, but lots of folks on the boards here swear by the 223 for hog hunting. I personally prefer a heavier round.

SamSung
11-29-2010, 6:24 PM
A .223 cal with a 75gr. bullet is perfect for Pig Hunting!

Trapper
11-29-2010, 7:22 PM
Less than perfect but the .223 will work. Wait for a clean broadside shot and be sure of the distance. Shot placement is key with any caliber.

FEMUN
11-29-2010, 7:43 PM
Do you wanna use an AR cuz it's the only thing you have or cuz you think it's cool. If your serious about hunting ditch the 9mm and get a bolt gun in .30-06

1911man
11-29-2010, 8:08 PM
Yes, I thought it would be cool to shoot a pig with an AR. Iam trying not to buy another caliber than what I have in an upper. I Agree that I would have to wait for an ideal head shot. I was looking for a rifled slug barrel for my 20ga. benelli m1 , but that almost impossible to find, and pricey. How heavy does nosler make in a partition or would you use a different bullet? I think using an '06 would be a little over kill on a 150 lb. pig.

radio2
11-29-2010, 8:31 PM
Do you wanna use an AR cuz it's the only thing you have or cuz you think it's cool. If your serious about hunting ditch the 9mm and get a bolt gun in .30-06

This^^^^

radio2
11-29-2010, 8:39 PM
I think using an '06 would be a little over kill on a 150 lb. pig.

And you think pigs only weigh 150lbs.???? That is an ideal pig to shoot but they can go over 250LBS. Good luck.

mwunsch
11-29-2010, 8:47 PM
My brother just shot a 120lb pig with a 30-06, overkill, if you mean it dropped in its tracks humanely and didnt move more than 20 ft...i use a .300 win mag and 7 mag on pigs, overkill is not a problem in my humble opinion.

1911man
11-29-2010, 8:52 PM
I have passed up plenty of pigs that weighed more than 250 lb. They taste like s***. that is why I only want to shot 125- 150 lb. pigs. I do have 30cal. rifles and when used on a pig is a bit overkill. I just want to do something more challenging.

davebw226
11-29-2010, 11:03 PM
I personally wouldn't take a head shot. I would aim for just behind and a bit lower than the front elbow. Never fails. The vitals are lower than one would expect. Again. Just my approach.

ivanimal
11-29-2010, 11:07 PM
I use the 45-70 for piggies.

Divernhunter
11-30-2010, 3:56 AM
Using a marginal cartridge is not"challenging" It is a mistake and shows lack of respect for your game. A 30-06/308win/300mag/7mm mag etc is not overkill on any size pig. There is no such thing as "too dead". I have seen pigs shot with small cartridges including 243's which were lost. Had they been shot with a larger cartridge they would have been in someones freezer.

Instead of a 9mm or 223 just use a knife. That is "challeging"

1911man
11-30-2010, 6:10 PM
I have used a knife with dogs on many pigs, it is a blast! Using a bow and arrows for hunting I guess would be a real disrespect for anything you hunt, to some people, but I guess they have a need for a challenge.

chsk9
11-30-2010, 6:15 PM
Using a marginal cartridge is not"challenging" It is a mistake and shows lack of respect for your game. A 30-06/308win/300mag/7mm mag etc is not overkill on any size pig. There is no such thing as "too dead". I have seen pigs shot with small cartridges including 243's which were lost. Had they been shot with a larger cartridge they would have been in someones freezer.

Instead of a 9mm or 223 just use a knife. That is "challeging"

True true...

CavTrooper
11-30-2010, 6:38 PM
Use the .223, take headshots. Anywhere between the ear and the eye should do allright. You can also go for center neck shots with heavier bullets. Stay away from the "behind the shoulder" shots, you may make a clean kill but you have a better chance of either ruining a shoulder, gut shotting the hog or just wounding it.

ETA*** big calibers do not make up for poor marksmanship.

gimebakmybulits
11-30-2010, 7:22 PM
I have used a knife with dogs on many pigs, it is a blast! Using a bow and arrows for hunting I guess would be a real disrespect for anything you hunt, to some people, but I guess they have a need for a challenge.

Why would bow hunting be a disrespect, unless of course you have no idea as to how an arrow works. As most have stated, using the wrong caliber is the biggest and most unethical choice any hunter can make. Pick up a 45# plus traditional bow, learn how to use it effectively and consistently then sneak up to within 10-15 yards of that pig and enjoy your accomplishment.

Hunt
11-30-2010, 8:17 PM
with a .223 shoot them behind the ear

professionalcoyotehunter
12-01-2010, 5:33 PM
I have passed up plenty of pigs that weighed more than 250 lb. They taste like s***. that is why I only want to shot 125- 150 lb. pigs. I do have 30cal. rifles and when used on a pig is a bit overkill. I just want to do something more challenging.

That is FUD. Mine was close if not over 300lbs and she tasted great. the sows no matter how heavy are tender and juicy but if you are talking about big boars than you are right but not all large pigs are bad eating.

SLYoteBoy
12-01-2010, 5:56 PM
The .223.

davebw226
12-01-2010, 7:56 PM
Shot placement is personal opinion. As an ex infantry officer I look for high percentage shots, which usually don't involve head shots unless that is the only choice. I've never gut shot a pig by carefully putting a round just behind the elbow and even the biggest ones I've taken have never needed a second shot. Obviously the angle of the target is critical when taking this target area. I always assume though that a round to the engine room forward of the diaphram has a lower wound/graze likelihood. Obviously distance plays a huge party in target area choice. Can't argue with anything said above except perhaps the likelihood of a gut shot when using my personal approach. All good. Great sport and a renewable resource here in CA where mny species are on the decline.

tcd511
12-01-2010, 8:03 PM
Can't beat a 30-30 for dropping a pig

1911man
12-01-2010, 8:05 PM
Next time I go, I will take your advice. Thanks for all your guys input.

SLK619
12-02-2010, 6:33 PM
Any Good Pig Hunting Near San Diego?

Whiterabbit
12-02-2010, 6:50 PM
Lack of experience talking, but last (first) time I went pig hunting, we mainly used out bolt rifles BUT, we did get tired of camping out and decided to root them out from wooded and brushy areas. We figured scoped bolt rifles would be useless and the ranges close, so my buddy went with an AR .223 and I with a 30-30 lever action. Both chosen because it was the alternatives available, but for dragging backwards through brush, we both thought the decision was good.

for what it is worth from a very new hunter.

mzimmers
12-02-2010, 8:23 PM
I echo the sentiments of those who have indicated that neither of those are ideal. I'd be concerned about the 9mm's penetration. And the .223...it's OK if you are really sure you can kill it right on the spot. A pig shot with a .223 isn't going to leave much of a blood trail.

Personally, I'd take a .30-06 (if I had one) over either. I'd prefer my .44 carbine if I can use lead, otherwise my 7mm magnum or .300 Weatherby. And, if I'm in close enough, I'd love to use my .460 S&W. Just MHO...

707ace
12-02-2010, 11:19 PM
223 TAP ammo?

dominic
12-03-2010, 1:10 PM
Any Good Pig Hunting Near San Diego?

Supposed to be some pigs up near Julian on Cleveland National Forest land around Witch Creek.

SLK619
12-04-2010, 2:19 PM
Supposed to be some pigs up near Julian on Cleveland National Forest land around Witch Creek.

Thanks for the info. I gonna go to the forestry station in alpine and see if they have any maps i could use.

tankerman
12-04-2010, 4:17 PM
A .223 cal with a 75gr. bullet is perfect for Pig Hunting!
Show us some pictures of the hogs you've killed with 223.

bernieb90
12-04-2010, 10:06 PM
I have a friend that hunts pigs with a Mini-14. He shoots Corbon DPX, and has had one shot kills every time. Be aware that if you are hunting in condor area you will need lead free bullets anyway. Any barbs bullet put through the vitals will work great if you can get your hands on some of the new 70gr stuff it will do a real number on almost any pig if you do your part.