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jms
11-28-2010, 7:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/jms999/Mosin%20Nagant/MNM28-30Complete.jpg

mosinnagantm9130
11-28-2010, 7:56 PM
Nice 28/30's, the one I have is a great shooter.

In before Pullnshoot says how much he envy's your 28/30's...:D

jms
11-29-2010, 6:42 AM
Nice 28/30's, the one I have is a great shooter.
It seems they're generally good shooters. I reload mine and use 308 bullets. Most Mosins used 310 and most surpluses comes that way. I've heard on other boards that it's only these model uses 308, don't know if it's true or not.

If I'm not mistaken the Finns used these exact model to compete on one the Olympics.

smle-man
11-29-2010, 7:18 AM
I have read that the 27s, 28s and 28/30 were 308 bore and the 39 went to .310 but I've never slugged them to find out. I used .308 bullets in a 91/30, M44, and a couple 39s with good accuracy. All had excellent bores, maybe that was a factor.

berg
11-29-2010, 7:24 AM
Nice Finns.

BTW slugging a bore is very easy and gives the owner some very valuable information.

Buy this for 20 bucks (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=462291&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Gunsmithing%20-%20Tools%2C%20Jigs%20%26%20Fixtures-_-PriceCompListing-_-462291) and melt it in your toaster oven. Plug the barrel with a cloth patch and pour in. Seriously easy and keeps a person from damaging their valuable rifle.

Quinc
11-29-2010, 7:52 AM
Can you post a pic of the markings? Im curious how to tell the difference between these and a 91/30.

Someguy925
11-29-2010, 7:52 AM
Yeah I would recommend slugging the bore if you don't know the diameter of the bore.

Fate
11-29-2010, 8:36 AM
Can you post a pic of the markings? Im curious how to tell the difference between these and a 91/30.

This is what you're looking for: http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinIDII.htmhttp://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinIDII.htm

pullnshoot25
11-29-2010, 9:22 AM
Nice 28/30's, the one I have is a great shooter.

In before Pullnshoot says how much he envy's your 28/30's...:D

Bastard! Gaaaaagh! ;)

pullnshoot25
11-29-2010, 9:23 AM
I lust for your rifles.

jms
11-29-2010, 9:34 AM
Can you post a pic of the markings? Im curious how to tell the difference between these and a 91/30.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/jms999/Mosin%20Nagant/M28_30crest.jpg

hybridatsun350
11-29-2010, 11:17 AM
Can you post a pic of the markings? Im curious how to tell the difference between these and a 91/30.

The Finn's are surprisingly different from the Russian rifles. The sights, barrel bands, and cleaning rod are all clear differences. Not to mention the markings. They are of significantly higher quality than their Russian counterparts!

More than you ever wanted to know about Mosins... http://7.62x54r.net/

dogolden
12-19-2010, 6:14 PM
Nice set of 28/30's you got there bro! Unfortunately for me I end up selling all the 28/30's that I come across (or I trade them). The m28/30's are the Cadillac of the Mosin community - I don't think there is a more accurate MN ever built.

According to Doug Bowser's book "Rifles of the White Death," these are the bore diatmeters of Finnish Mosin Nagants:

1) m91/24 - .3095,
2) m91 - .3095,
3) m27 - .3095,
4) m28 - .3095,
5) m28/30 - .3082,
6) m39 - .310.

I've never owned or seen in person a 91/24 but I've owned many of the above mentioned rifles (I have owned 4 m28/30's). By far my most favorite Finn is my $89 1943 SAKO I bought from WG&A about 10 years ago (still have it). It is not my most accurate rifle but it is absolutely my favorite milsurp rifle that I've ever had. Don't ask me why as I can't explain it.

'Corporal Simo Hayha was a sniper in the Finnish Army and used a Finn m28 (no optics guys) to shoot 505 Russians in 90 days. His record is still unbroken. Of course what most of us don't hear about is that before he joined the Finnish Army during WWII he as already one of the most highest ranking competitive shooters in Finland.'

Sorry for the rant but I just had to throw that out there about Hayha and his m28. Back on topic, if you find a m28/30 anywhere, in any condition - buy it! They are exceedingly rare and hard to come by!

mosinnagantm9130
12-19-2010, 9:20 PM
The m28/30's are the Cadillac of the Mosin community - I don't think there is a more accurate MN ever built.


Just to needle PNS some more(You know you want one), I'm thinking that this is my new M/N related sig.:D

12 posts and he already has created sig material.

Flyin Brian
12-19-2010, 11:36 PM
Beautiful rifles JMS, you obviously have an awesome collection.

Here's a few I picked up last week. I've been searching for a arctic burch stock for quite a while and finally found one that I could afford. The top is an M28 Tikka, middle is a 28/30 and the bottom is a PL marked M39:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/Flyin_Brian/MosinNagant/M28_TIKKA_2/M28Tikka009-1.jpg

And here's the three barrel shanks:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/Flyin_Brian/MosinNagant/M28_TIKKA_2/M28Tikka011.jpg

jms
12-20-2010, 4:34 AM
@ Flyin Brian, thanks. If you just got those last week, you really are very lucky. I know for a fact even way back finding those three in one week are hard to come by.

dogolden
12-20-2010, 10:41 AM
The easiest way to tell a Finn m28/30 apart from a m39 is to look at the left hand side of the rear sight base. Notice that there are notches on the m28/30? On the m28/30 the notches are numbered 200, 400, 500, etc.

On the m39's the notches start at 200 and ALL of the notches are numbered (200, 300, 400, 500, etc). Forgive me for pirating your picture jms but in a pinch it was the best I could do.

Flyin Brian
12-20-2010, 11:39 AM
The easiest way to tell a Finn m28/30 apart from a m39 is to look at the left hand side of the rear sight base. Notice that there are notches on the m28/30? On the m28/30 the notches are numbered 200, 400, 500, etc. I

On the m39's the notches start at 200 and ALL of the notches are numbered (200, 300, 400, 500, etc). Forgive me for pirating your picture jms but in a pinch it was the best I could do.

Many of the early M39s were built with 28-30 rear sight bases, so that wouldn't be an accurate way to distinguish between the two models.

dogolden
12-20-2010, 12:04 PM
Many of the early M39s were built with 28-30 rear sight bases, so that wouldn't be an accurate way to distinguish between the two models.


FB - you gotta tell me where you read that or give up your source dude!

Noonanda
12-20-2010, 12:46 PM
a fairly easy way to tell the difference is look at the front sight. if it is 1/2 inch or so from the end of the barrel M-28/ M-28/30. If it is about 3/4 of an inch, M-39

Backinblack1234
12-20-2010, 1:17 PM
OMG So much win. I love Fin Nagants.

dogolden
12-20-2010, 1:34 PM
Yeah - you're right, it is so much win! Better than, dare I say it? Better than porn...

Flyin Brian
12-20-2010, 1:50 PM
FB - you gotta tell me where you read that or give up your source dude!

There was a recent post on the Mosin collector section of gunboards.com regarding this. Here is another example I saved a link to, this is an early straight stocked M39 and you can see in the photo that there is no "3" on the rear sight base.

http://www.empirearms.com/M39-200518.jpg

dogolden
12-20-2010, 2:04 PM
Good info and thanks for the link(s). So far, it looks like the extra 28/30 rear sight bases were applied to early straight stock m39's. I wish I still had my straight stock m39's to compare them with..

mosinnagantm9130
12-20-2010, 2:47 PM
Another easy way is to look at the sight itself. M39's lowest setting is 150, the 28/30's lowest setting is 200.

Anchors
12-20-2010, 3:24 PM
Oh man. I want one.

Noonanda
12-21-2010, 6:32 AM
Jms have you ever though of adopting anyone???? LOL those are some beautiful Rifles man.

Noonanda
12-21-2010, 6:34 AM
OMG So much win. I love Fin Nagants.

When people call Mosins "nagants" baby jesus cries and R. Lee Ermy gets angry LOL

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs398.snc4/46101_1555530615616_1455744538_1439770_5516131_n.j pg

Fate
12-21-2010, 7:18 AM
Hahahaha ^^