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hoffmang
11-27-2010, 7:10 PM
The following counties have good cause statements available:


Alameda (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/89-alameda)
Alpine (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/91-alpine)
Colusa (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/94-colusa)
Contra Costa (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/71-contracosta.html)
Glenn (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/99-glenn)
Kings (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/104-kings)
Marin (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/109-marin)
Mono (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/114-mono)
Monterey (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/115-monterey)
Sacramento (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/122-sacramento)
San Diego* (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/70-sandiegopdf.html)
San Francisco (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/126-san-francisco.html)
San Joaquin (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/127-san-joaquin)
Santa Barbara (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/130-santa-barbara)
Santa Cruz (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/132-santa-cruz)
Sierra (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/134-sierra)
Solano (Renewals Added 2/21/12) (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/136-solano)
Sonoma (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/137-sonoma)
Stanislaus (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/67-stanislaus-county-good-cause-statements.html)
Ventura (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/144-ventura.html)

Still to come (* denotes pending litigation):

Amador
Butte
Calaveras
Del Norte
El Dorado
Fresno
Humboldt
Imperial
Inyo
Kern
Lake
Lassen
Los Angeles
Madera
Mariposa
Mendocino
Merced
Modoc
Napa
Nevada
Orange
Placer
Plumas
Riverside
San Benito
San Bernardino
San Luis Obispo
San Mateo
Santa Clara
Shasta
Siskiyou
Sutter
Tehama
Trinity
Tulare
Tuolumne
Yolo *
Yuba

G17GUY
11-27-2010, 7:25 PM
I was wondering when we would see a current page. Maybe a "Time to apply" section in list format in this thread?

Awsome work!

Blackhawk556
11-27-2010, 11:35 PM
i wonder why the counties that are "pro ccw" are taking this long to release their accepted good cause statements?

ex. kern, fresno, madera, riverside<--??, and several others

armygunsmith
11-27-2010, 11:43 PM
This is awesome. Keep up the good work guys!

Paladin
11-30-2010, 4:38 PM
Can someone start a separate sticky for counties that have "***Time to Apply!***" status (Sacto, Merced, San Joaquin, etc.)?

Doheny
11-30-2010, 4:42 PM
Still to come (* denotes pending litigation):


So what's the story with those that aren't in litigation but show as "still to come." Are they dragging their feet, etc?

Thanks for your hard work Gene, et al.

choprzrul
11-30-2010, 4:44 PM
8 down, 50 to go...

**EDIT**
Just went and read a whole bunch of those GC statements. Looks like most places will issue for just about anything! I even saw one that was left blank??? Cronyism at its finest?

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ZombieTactics
11-30-2010, 4:55 PM
I sincerely hoping this is not thread-jacking.

Is there some sense in which it could be argued that - if a particular set of GC are accepted in a large number of counties (perhaps even a majority) - that it could be considered unconstitutional (equal protection) to deny in other counties based upon those same GC statements?

wildhawker
11-30-2010, 6:24 PM
Not only is the argument weak legally, but it won't matter soon (or at least in a shorter time period than new, costly litigation with an almost certain chance of dismissal). There is plenty of good trouble to cause if patience isn't in the cards.

choprzrul
12-01-2010, 5:06 PM
Can you give us a clue on the next handful of counties that will have their GC statements posted?

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obeygiant
12-01-2010, 5:11 PM
Can you give us a clue on the next handful of counties that will have their GC statements posted?

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We are expecting some additional counties to be available today and they will be posted once they have been redacted properly.

Bigtwin
12-01-2010, 5:14 PM
I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

wildhawker
12-01-2010, 5:50 PM
I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

Coming soon!

Soldier415
12-01-2010, 7:03 PM
Thanks for the update!

Bigtwin
12-01-2010, 7:36 PM
Coming soon!

You don't know how good that sounds!:)

Paladin
12-01-2010, 8:28 PM
You don't know how good that sounds!:)Don't fall for it. "Soon" is interchangeable with "two weeks."

obeygiant
12-01-2010, 8:34 PM
I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

Coming soon!

Don't fall for it. "Soon" is interchangeable with "two weeks."

Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:

Paladin
12-01-2010, 9:35 PM
Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:
:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

wildhawker
12-01-2010, 10:17 PM
:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

Coming soon... :43:

obeygiant
12-01-2010, 11:03 PM
:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:

Identify GC statements
Redact
Assemble and post

I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

Soldier415
12-02-2010, 12:06 AM
Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

wildhawker
12-02-2010, 12:56 AM
Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

In line for redaction.

Soldier415
12-02-2010, 1:08 AM
In line for redaction.
Excellent

dantodd
12-02-2010, 1:53 AM
Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

No longer in line.







Now it is up.

gotgunz
12-02-2010, 2:12 AM
Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:

You may have as well put up a blank sheet and run a black marker all over it. That is a huge amount of redaction!

REPR3D
12-02-2010, 4:31 AM
Hoffmang, Thank you very much for ALL your helpful post. I have started my ccw process and will be seeing Amber early next year to submit my application.

Paladin
12-02-2010, 7:15 AM
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:

Identify GC statements
Redact
Assemble and post

I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.You are an awesome FREEDOM MACHINE! ! !

When I went to bed, there were 9 counties' GCs posted. When I wake up, there's 11. That's almost 1/5th of all the counties. I'm feeling like a kid on Christmas finding presents under the tree in the morning!

I THANK YOU ALL, now esp you guys doing the "grunt work" behind the scenes.

For the past 3 yrs I've skipped getting myself anything for Christmas (or my birthday) because Wayne's had sales on supra Life memberships and said they've needed the money (they spent $20M on election campaigns this year alone). Well, I'll skip myself again this year and send CGN and CGF presents for the hard work and "gifts" (unchaining our RKBA in this state), that you have give me.

Thanks again,
"Paladin"

Soldier415
12-02-2010, 8:08 AM
No longer in line.







Now it is up.
Excellent!

Just browsed through it, and didnt like what I saw. No a lot of permits issued, and those there were issued were LE or criminal justice system current or former employees, even the ones with specific threats against their lives.

G17GUY
12-02-2010, 7:37 PM
Excellent!

Just browsed through it, and didnt like what I saw. No a lot of permits issued, and those there were issued were LE or criminal justice system current or former employees, even the ones with specific threats against their lives.

You are right, slim pickins. I wonder if the department submitted certain applications strategically.

choprzrul
12-02-2010, 8:12 PM
Cronyism Coverup Wankers


The new CCW...

obeygiant
12-02-2010, 11:02 PM
You may have as well put up a blank sheet and run a black marker all over it. That is a huge amount of redaction!

Agreed, it was very disappointing.

Paladin
12-03-2010, 4:13 PM
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:

Identify GC statements
Redact
Assemble and post

I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.That gets us to "Good Cause Statements Available." What are the steps required to go from that to "***Time to Apply!***"?

choprzrul
12-03-2010, 5:04 PM
can I be of any assistance in helping move SLO to the top column?

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Ford8N
12-03-2010, 6:23 PM
I'm not against any CCW good cause statements but I can hear a Sheriff countering all reasons for a CCW. Bank drops at night, Sheriffs answer, don't bank at night. Fear for my life, Sheriffs answer, call 911. I lock up my business at night in a bad area, Sheriffs answer, move. And on and on forever. SLO county will be a tough nut to crack.

BigFatGuy
12-03-2010, 6:46 PM
Clearly I need to move to Glenn county. In LA if you put "to conform to the law" the sherriff would ask "what are you doing now that DOESN"T conform to the law?".

Window_Seat
12-03-2010, 7:04 PM
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:

Identify GC statements
Redact
Assemble and post

I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

WOW!!!! I'm going to be quite busy with all that reading, and I have a feeling it will be quite a large file even after the final steps. :eek:

That gets us to "Good Cause Statements Available." What are the steps required to go from that to "***Time to Apply!***"?

Very good question! :thumbsup:

Erik.

wildhawker
12-03-2010, 11:20 PM
Patience. In addition to the good cause statements coming in, there will be substantial movement on many fronts which we'll share soon.

Paladin
12-04-2010, 1:12 PM
I'm not against any CCW good cause statements but I can hear a Sheriff countering all reasons for a CCW. Bank drops at night, Sheriffs answer, don't bank at night. Fear for my life, Sheriffs answer, call 911. I lock up my business at night in a bad area, Sheriffs answer, move. And on and on forever. SLO county will be a tough nut to crack.Our (CGF's counter): If you accepted that GC from ANYONE similarly situated, you must accept it from us! If not, you'll get a lesson in 14th A Equal Protection law from a federal judge. :43:

Paladin
12-04-2010, 1:15 PM
Patience. In addition to the good cause statements coming in, there will be substantial movement on many fronts which we'll share soon. Sweet! :43:

N6ATF
12-04-2010, 4:21 PM
The steamroller is coming! The steamroller is coming!

http://eightzero.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/steamroller.jpg

IrishPirate
12-04-2010, 4:26 PM
Thanks! (sure wish Placer was on that list.... :( )

I was wondering something: Since Placer doesn't accept self defense as GC, would it not be wise to write "I wish to carry a firearm for self defense and the defense of my family because __________" and then fill in the blank with my good cause statements? Should i leave out Self Defense all together, or show that i will be defending myself and my family from the situations that i provide them?

wildhawker
12-04-2010, 4:59 PM
Thanks! (sure wish Placer was on that list.... :( )

I was wondering something: Since Placer doesn't accept self defense as GC, would it not be wise to write "I wish to carry a firearm for self defense and the defense of my family because __________" and then fill in the blank with my good cause statements? Should i leave out Self Defense all together, or show that i will be defending myself and my family from the situations that i provide them?

I know it's getting old, but really, hang tight.

obeygiant
12-04-2010, 9:20 PM
All 392 pages of Alameda's GC statements have been uploaded Here (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/89-alameda)

IrishPirate
12-04-2010, 11:43 PM
I know it's getting old, but really, hang tight.

Unless Placer accepts Self Defense as Good Cause as soon as January of 2011, I'm going to need to make sure I go about it the right way. If you guys can make it happen, I'll hold off a bit....but I'm ready now!!!! :D

Paladin
12-06-2010, 8:28 PM
Can someone start a separate sticky for counties that have "***Time to Apply!***" status (Sacto, Merced, San Joaquin, etc.)?

:gene:

Purple K
12-08-2010, 8:57 PM
I'm not sure of the date of the PRA requests but, would it help if those of us that have received our CCWs recently were to send our GC statements to Calguns Foundation for posting?

Gray Peterson
12-08-2010, 9:19 PM
I'm not sure of the date of the PRA requests but, would it help if those of us that have received our CCWs recently were to send our GC statements to Calguns Foundation for posting?

Sure, why not? It'll be redacted of course.

Paladin
12-09-2010, 5:54 AM
Woohoo! A new Christmas present appears overnight under the Christmas tree -- Marin!

That bumps us up to 15 counties -- over 1/4th of all counties in CA -- and there's still more than "two weeks" until Christmas. ;)

choprzrul
12-09-2010, 5:27 PM
From 11/30:
8 down, 50 to go...


Watching them drop like flies. 15 down & 43 to go now: 12/09/2010

It always seems like the process is moving at a crawl, but then I reflect back. 7 more counties added in under 2 weeks. Lots of work in the background. I wonder if you guys know just how much your efforts are appreciated.

hoffmang
12-09-2010, 8:07 PM
It always seems like the process is moving at a crawl, but then I reflect back. 7 more counties added in under 2 weeks. Lots of work in the background. I wonder if you guys know just how much your efforts are appreciated.

The Sunshine volunteer team is working their *** off and kind words like this mean a lot to them.

-Gene

Don29palms
12-16-2010, 9:33 PM
San Bernardino county any time soon? I am trying to apply sometime in January.

choprzrul
12-20-2010, 2:18 PM
Are we stuck @ 15 counties? Can we lobby our county supervisors or someone else to help expedite?

Living in slow, slow SLO county, I should have anticipated them taking forever to cough up the info.

.

Rock6.3
12-27-2010, 1:54 PM
Any action from Shasta yet?

choprzrul
01-17-2011, 8:18 AM
In reading about the California Public Records Act here (http://www.thefirstamendment.org/publicrecordsact.pdf), it would seem that they must immediately provide access to CCW records if I appear at their office in person during normal business hours. I could then manually parse the records for those which have a good cause statement that closely mirrors my own statement. At that point, I could make a note of the person's name on the applications and submit a request for a hard copy. I fully realize that they don't have to provide times and addresses of vulnerability per 6254:

(u) (1) Information contained in applications for licenses to
carry firearms issued pursuant to Section 12050 of the Penal Code by
the sheriff of a county or the chief or other head of a municipal
police department that indicates when or where the applicant is
vulnerable to attack or that concerns the applicant's medical or
psychological history or that of members of his or her family.
(2) The home address and telephone number of peace officers,
judges, court commissioners, and magistrates that are set forth in
applications for licenses to carry firearms issued pursuant to
Section 12050 of the Penal Code by the sheriff of a county or the
chief or other head of a municipal police department.
(3) The home address and telephone number of peace officers,
judges, court commissioners, and magistrates that are set forth in
licenses to carry firearms issued pursuant to Section 12050 of the
Penal Code by the sheriff of a county or the chief or other head of a
municipal police department.

Where am I off base in the process? I would like to know how many CCW permits are being reported by SLO county to CA DOJ and cross reference that number to what I am given access to by their staff.

If I could get 5 or 6 other CalGun'rs from the area to go with me, I would think that we could parse the records in a very short time. We would come away with a list of names that we want hard copies of good cause statements.

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Rock6.3
02-10-2011, 10:04 AM
Any action from Shasta yet?

:confused:

Kukuforguns
02-10-2011, 11:37 AM
In reading about the California Public Records Act here (http://www.thefirstamendment.org/publicrecordsact.pdf), it would seem that they must immediately provide access to CCW records if I appear at their office in person during normal business hours. I could then manually parse the records for those which have a good cause statement that closely mirrors my own statement. At that point, I could make a note of the person's name on the applications and submit a request for a hard copy. I fully realize that they don't have to provide times and addresses of vulnerability per 6254:



Where am I off base in the process? I would like to know how many CCW permits are being reported by SLO county to CA DOJ and cross reference that number to what I am given access to by their staff.

If I could get 5 or 6 other CalGun'rs from the area to go with me, I would think that we could parse the records in a very short time. We would come away with a list of names that we want hard copies of good cause statements.

You should bring a camera (preferably digital) along with you and take photos of all applications. If the clerk objects to the photographing of applicants' addresses, cover them up with a post-it. Many digital cameras come with a special setting for photographing documents.

robert68
02-12-2011, 3:58 PM
Ive got a portable scanner. What's the policy on making your own copies. That used to be an impediment, them charging small fortunes for coPies claiming 'expenses'.

robert68
02-12-2011, 4:02 PM
Are we stuck @ 15 counties? Can we lobby our county supervisors or someone else to help expedite?

Living in slow, slow SLO county, I should have anticipated them taking forever to cough up the info.

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Need help with this? Can these records be accessed in Grover beach office? I might be able to helP if needed

Thom1394
02-14-2011, 7:52 PM
All these folks that are waiting for 'Good Cause' statements for a county:
California is a 'May Issue' state. The issuance of a CCW is entirely at the discretion of the Sheriff. A Self Defense' statement (from you) may not be accepted as valid while a 'Self Defense' statement from someone that carries forty thousand in cash about during the day or a retired LEO who can claim danger from folk that (s)he has dealt with in the past would be valid. LEGALLY...

ColdDeadHands1
02-14-2011, 8:00 PM
All these folks that are waiting for 'Good Cause' statements for a county:
California is a 'May Issue' state. The issuance of a CCW is entirely at the discretion of the Sheriff. A Self Defense' statement (from you) may not be accepted as valid while a 'Self Defense' statement from someone that carries forty thousand in cash about during the day or a retired LEO who can claim danger from folk that (s)he has dealt with in the past would be valid. LEGALLY...

Not sure what your point is?:confused:

Gray Peterson
02-14-2011, 8:04 PM
All these folks that are waiting for 'Good Cause' statements for a county:
California is a 'May Issue' state. The issuance of a CCW is entirely at the discretion of the Sheriff. A Self Defense' statement (from you) may not be accepted as valid while a 'Self Defense' statement from someone that carries forty thousand in cash about during the day or a retired LEO who can claim danger from folk that (s)he has dealt with in the past would be valid. LEGALLY...

I'm not sure if I'm understanding what you're saying here, but the current law of this circuit (9th) under Guillory v. Gates is that the equal protection clause applies.

From Guillory:

In addition, we note that at oral argument before this court, the county took the position that it was not bound by the fourteenth amendment equal protection clause, apparently on the theory that the second amendment somehow supersedes it whenever the state's regulation of firearms is at issue. This wholly unsubstantiated position in itself seems to be evidence of the county's official policy of indifference to fourteenth amendment protections.

Ford8N
02-15-2011, 4:23 AM
All these folks that are waiting for 'Good Cause' statements for a county:
California is a 'May Issue' state. The issuance of a CCW is entirely at the discretion of the Sheriff. A Self Defense' statement (from you) may not be accepted as valid while a 'Self Defense' statement from someone that carries forty thousand in cash about during the day or a retired LEO who can claim danger from folk that (s)he has dealt with in the past would be valid. LEGALLY...

You know what my Sheriff would say about carrying that much cash, don't carry that much cash around and if you need help call 911. And the retired LEO is probably a golfing buddy.

jwollam
02-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Any updates on Butte county?

Thank you!! :)

wildhawker
02-21-2011, 11:35 AM
All these folks that are waiting for 'Good Cause' statements for a county:
California is a 'May Issue' state. The issuance of a CCW is entirely at the discretion of the Sheriff. A Self Defense' statement (from you) may not be accepted as valid while a 'Self Defense' statement from someone that carries forty thousand in cash about during the day or a retired LEO who can claim danger from folk that (s)he has dealt with in the past would be valid. LEGALLY...

Another 2-post armchair quarterback... :rolleyes:

Retired law enforcement officers are considered as regular citizens for the purposes of Equal Protection. Silveira.

An authority who exercises discretion must apply that discretion equitably. Guillory.

The Second Amendment protects a fundamental right of self-defense, including by means of functional firearms for immediate use. Heller. McDonald.

Rock6.3
03-24-2011, 3:02 PM
No new data since December 2010????

choprzrul
03-25-2011, 6:07 PM
Tell me that you will be releasing GC statements for SLO county later this evening....

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wildhawker
03-25-2011, 6:21 PM
No new data since December 2010????

Whatever data that has been released by counties is undergoing redaction and will be published as available. Anything not voluntarily released by counties, obviously, will be pursued; see, e.g., CGF v. Ventura.

choprzrul
06-02-2011, 3:27 PM
Whatever data that has been released by counties is undergoing redaction and will be published as available. Anything not voluntarily released by counties, obviously, will be pursued; see, e.g., CGF v. Ventura.

Over 2 months since the last post in this thread. Any updates for us?

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wildhawker
06-02-2011, 3:41 PM
Over 2 months since the last post in this thread. Any updates for us?

I can only think of one county we have data for and haven't posted yet (Santa Clara), which was held off pending the lawsuit. Those will be up very soon.

We will resolve CGF v. Ventura before going after any others since it directly bears on the exemptions claimed by the withholding agencies.

choprzrul
06-02-2011, 3:45 PM
I can only think of one county we have data for and haven't posted yet (Santa Clara), which was held off pending the lawsuit. Those will be up very soon.

We will resolve CGF v. Ventura before going after any others since it directly bears on the exemptions claimed by the withholding agencies.

Thank you for the info Brandon. Much appreciated.

.

Kicker0429
06-03-2011, 11:14 AM
I can only think of one county we have data for and haven't posted yet (Santa Clara), which was held off pending the lawsuit. Those will be up very soon.

There is at least one more county! ;)

Santa Cruz Armory
06-11-2011, 11:33 PM
Any new news on Santa Cruz County?

wildhawker
06-12-2011, 12:00 AM
Santa Cruz good cause statements have been up a while: http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/132-santa-cruz.html

DeltaBronco
06-19-2011, 1:18 AM
Any news on placer?

haulboss
07-22-2011, 6:55 PM
Any good news on San Diego County. Specifically the city of Carlsbad?

FERGUSON
08-18-2011, 11:26 AM
ANY NEWS OF RIVERSIDE COUNTY?

rob474
08-18-2011, 7:37 PM
did San Bernardino get done sorry if i missed it
thank you
rob

SoCal Gunner
09-02-2011, 7:45 AM
+1 for Riverside County... I'm really itching over here.

Darklyte27
09-03-2011, 9:17 AM
Go CoCo County

V
09-19-2011, 12:49 PM
Ventura appears on the wrong list :)

Great work and thanks for all you do.Its great to see "Self-protection" in there instead of the page long justifications some of us did. Equal protection its a great thing.

JoeM
09-25-2011, 5:48 PM
Anything on Riverside county yet?


And a BIG THANK YOU to all who are volunteering their time and efforts on this project!!!

wildhawker
09-25-2011, 6:14 PM
Anything on Riverside county yet?

And a BIG THANK YOU to all who are volunteering their time and efforts on this project!!!

Riverside is working on theirs. They have a couple more weeks before their deadline.

-Brandon

Rough Ryder
10-05-2011, 3:16 PM
LA County anyone???

SoCal Gunner
10-05-2011, 3:47 PM
Riverside is working on theirs. They have a couple more weeks before their deadline.

-Brandon

OH HELL Yes!

0481
10-16-2011, 1:51 PM
Still waiting on Santa Clara co.

tabrisnet
10-16-2011, 3:37 PM
Check Scocca v Smith for the most likely avenue under which the statements will become available to the public [us].

Hakoomay
10-26-2011, 12:14 PM
Any updates with riverside county??

pkbirdog
11-01-2011, 2:12 PM
Will Tulare county have any good cause statements?

covertcombatant
11-10-2011, 11:25 AM
Anything on Riverside county?
Thanks

Shoktronic
11-10-2011, 8:51 PM
I'm waiting to hear about Riverside also. Its been a couple months since the post saying "couple weeks". Something should have shown up in some form or another right?

Tasty
11-24-2011, 6:43 PM
Although I'm doubtful, anything on Contra Costa?

Fouredwards
12-08-2011, 2:07 PM
Anything on Yolo County

jpigeon
12-19-2011, 6:47 AM
Whens my beautiful Southern California gonna release some statements???

toyotaguy
01-02-2012, 8:40 PM
Any update on Tuolumne county?

HowardW56
02-18-2012, 9:31 PM
UPDATED

lawaia
02-23-2012, 2:35 PM
I think Riverside has missed their deadline.:cool:

DrDavid
02-27-2012, 10:54 PM
I think Riverside has missed their deadline.:cool:
Maybe they just need a reminder?

thegunsmith
02-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Incredible work. Thanks for your efforts.

kpinlac
03-16-2012, 3:02 PM
Anything on San Joaquin county. We need help here.

jimbaran
05-04-2012, 3:56 PM
Any update on San Mateo county? any help will do.. thanks.

SourSig
05-17-2012, 4:00 PM
When it comes to good cause, is it better to keep it short and limited to 1 reason vs. laying down a bunch of reasons? (assuming all are valid and true, but some more powerful than others)

thetfox
05-31-2012, 2:49 PM
Los Angeles County any time soon? Ever?

HowardW56
05-31-2012, 3:01 PM
I have been promised that Los Angeles is coming... They may want to finish with the current Sheriff Baca lawsuit first... There is a LASO Lawsuit (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=545848&highlight=Baca) underway....

wildhawker
05-31-2012, 3:13 PM
Los Angeles County any time soon? Ever?

Los Angeles is very likely going to be the next Ventura. Just sayin'.

-Brandon

Alpha Suerte
06-08-2012, 8:38 AM
When it comes to good cause, is it better to keep it short and limited to 1 reason vs. laying down a bunch of reasons? (assuming all are valid and true, but some more powerful than others)

I would state one primary reason, and follow it with one or two lesser reasons. The problem with one, specific reason is that depending on whom you're dealing with, you could have limits placed on your CCW that would only allow you to use it for that reason.

mbz dr
08-17-2012, 4:42 AM
the Yuba Thread is not letting me post because it is over 300 day old so i hope some can help here . Iam thinking that i can relocate to Yuba county if that will help me with the ccw permit ,my question how is the sheriff in yuba is he for or against issuing ?

Sakiri
08-29-2012, 1:36 PM
Nothing on Humboldt I see.

I'm actually afraid to put an application in because a denial looks bad and "single white woman in her 30s seeks self defense in college town with poor police response time" is probably an invalid "good cause" even with the sheriff's dept apparently handing them out like candy.

SoCal Gunner
08-29-2012, 2:00 PM
Riverside is working on theirs. They have a couple more weeks before their deadline.

-Brandon

Update?

Bodthoutica_
10-01-2012, 5:33 PM
Wow great job, how is Lakecounty comming along...

209 srt
10-02-2012, 10:01 PM
Im applying for one in san joaquin county and just read some of the good cause statements ...they seem real plain...is there advice you guys could give I also have an appointment next month anything I should do or say...

moleculo
12-04-2012, 10:25 PM
Any updates/corrections available to the first post in this thread? (Shasta comes to mind)

emtmark
12-04-2012, 10:29 PM
I'm thinking about San Benito I'll try to find the appropriate sub forum feel free to pm if folks have suggestions
Thx

markwebster
12-27-2012, 2:15 PM
are these the good cause statements that were accepted and approved for CCW??

HowardW56
12-27-2012, 2:25 PM
are these the good cause statements that were accepted and approved for CCW??

Unless the file name indicates otherwise, yes...

markwebster
12-27-2012, 6:35 PM
thanks. so it looks like if you are a "target" (carrying money, or previous issue with crime) you get one...?

HowardW56
12-27-2012, 6:41 PM
thanks. so it looks like if you are a "target" (carrying money, or previous issue with crime) you get one...?

That is entirely dependent on which county.

Rock6.3
12-27-2012, 6:47 PM
UPDATED 02-18-2012, 10:31 PM

10 months since the last update.

Any news yet on the remaining counties?

markwebster
12-27-2012, 6:56 PM
I should have been more specific, Contra Costa County. I heard the CALGUNS was so successful, SAC county is handing them out like candy?

Any similar success in Contra Costa?

HowardW56
12-27-2012, 7:00 PM
10 months since the last update.

Any news yet on the remaining counties?


There are some ongoing projects that I’ll leave to others to disclose when appropriate. The scramble to ramp up the Stop SB-249 effort and now the rollout of the Firearms Policy Coalition has been consuming quite a bit of time...

Everyone is squeezing these efforts in along with family, work, and other obligations…

The sunshine imitative isn't forgotten, just delayed a bit...

If you look in the individual county threads there have been updates for some counties...

markwebster
12-27-2012, 7:09 PM
thank you.

Rock6.3
01-02-2013, 1:31 PM
There are some ongoing projects that I’ll leave to others to disclose when appropriate. The scramble to ramp up the Stop SB-249 effort and now the rollout of the Firearms Policy Coalition has been consuming quite a bit of time...

Everyone is squeezing these efforts in along with family, work, and other obligations…

The sunshine imitative isn't forgotten, just delayed a bit...

If you look in the individual county threads there have been updates for some counties...

Summary: We are too busy on other stuff.

HowardW56
01-02-2013, 2:05 PM
Summary: We are too busy on other stuff.

Basically yes, volunteers are doing the work, most have regular jobs, their own business; or other obligations.

Speaking for myself, in the last several months, I got swamped with work, which happens to pay the mortgage, and have been blessed with another grandson... While I am committed to the effort, there are other facets of life that have priority...

Many people have been generous with donations, but consider what it is like fighting with counties for the records. $100.00 gets ~ 20 minutes of an attorneys time (at a discount)... Counties like LA respond with "Sure you can have the records, please remit a check for $25,000.00” or whatever their crazy amount is...

It's a lot of work to go through thousands of pages, delete the unneeded crap and redact the balance.

There have been volunteers who have left the state; volunteers who after helping with one county have backed away, not realizing how much work is involved.

While I understand your frustration, I'm frustrated too... What sucks is having people criticize the volunteers’ effort, because we don’t work hard or fast enough….

I have contributed thousands of dollars, and many hundreds of hours to the effort…

Sometimes the critics just piss me off!

Rock6.3
01-02-2013, 2:11 PM
Basically yes, volunteers are doing the work, most have regular jobs, their own business; or other obligations.

Speaking for myself, in the last several months, I got swamped with work, which happens to pay the mortgage, and have been blessed with another grandson... While I am committed to the effort, there are other facets of life that have priority...

Many people have been generous with donations, but consider what it is like fighting with counties for the records. $100.00 gets ~ 20 minutes of an attorneys time (at a discount)... Counties like LA respond with "Sure you can have the records, please remit a check for $25,000.00” or whatever their crazy amount is...

It's a lot of work to go through thousands of pages, delete the unneeded crap and redact the balance.

There have been volunteers who have left the state; volunteers who after helping with one county have backed away, not realizing how much work is involved.

While I understand your frustration, I'm frustrated too... What sucks is having people criticize the volunteers’ effort, because we don’t work hard or fast enough….

I have contributed thousands of dollars, and many hundreds of hours to the effort…

Sometimes the critics just piss me off!


And other volunteers are still sitting idle, having signed up and been ignored. I refer specifically to ME, as I have retired since I contributed to this project financially.

Some of you are overworked, then please, do something about it!

infamous209
01-04-2013, 10:25 AM
I know stanislaus is not hard to get a CCW in, but the earliest I can get an appt. is end of Jan. beginning of Feb., this state is a mess, and needs work. I am just glad there are volunteers out there for the cause, your work is greatly appreciated.

mow
01-27-2013, 7:50 PM
It seems there is an issue with calgunsfoundation.org... I get a 404 error when attempting to access the Alameda county GC statements.

Also there is no longer a link to Alameda County in this sub-forum... Is it time to apply?

DLEONARD13
02-01-2013, 1:39 PM
I too am getting the 404 error for Sacramento? Any ideas?

Librarian
02-01-2013, 1:50 PM
It seems there is an issue with calgunsfoundation.org... I get a 404 error when attempting to access the Alameda county GC statements.

Also there is no longer a link to Alameda County in this sub-forum... Is it time to apply?

Scroll to the bottom and adjust your 'Display Options' to show the older threads.

That said, the link for GC still produces 404 for Alameda.

Can'thavenuthingood
02-01-2013, 3:45 PM
Kings County is giving us the same 404 code.

Vick
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404 - Component not found
You may not be able to visit this page because of:


an out-of-date bookmark/favourite
a search engine that has an out-of-date listing for this site
a mistyped address
you have no access to this page
The requested resource was not found.
An error has occurred while processing your request.

Please try one of the following pages:



Home Page (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/index.php)

If difficulties persist, please contact the System Administrator of this site.
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mow
02-02-2013, 8:41 AM
Scroll to the bottom and adjust your 'Display Options' to show the older threads.

That said, the link for GC still produces 404 for Alameda.

Thanks. Sometimes I miss the obvious.:eek:

Yes a number of counties produce the 404 error. I guess I should have saved that pdf when I viewed it the first time.

Tac380
02-03-2013, 8:52 PM
Ok I am also getting a 404 error when I attempt to access the Sacramento County Good Cause statement.

I have scrolled down but don't see how/where to view older threads. I am renewing my CCW and want to make sure I am using the right good cause. I don't recall what I used 2 years ago from this site.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jeff

packnrat
02-14-2013, 6:51 PM
sad most of the info for most of the state is dead, lost, or misplaced.


:oji:


.

eveready
02-27-2013, 8:09 PM
Iam new to calguns and this forum. Can someone explain the term "good cause"
also Iam working on my ccw here in Del Norte co. But I don't know how to answer the question . The reson for wanting a ccw is? Any ideas? Thanks.

Bobula
03-10-2013, 5:30 AM
How about amador? I can do leg work if needed.,

LeftCoastShooter
03-28-2013, 9:23 PM
I'm also getting the 404 error for Marin. I might be able to help.

I am also absolutely astounded that there's even a possibility of getting an LTC/CCW in Marin. I had pretty much resigned myself to waiting for pending litigation before getting one. But if I can help speed the process up - sign me up!

Ryan_D
06-06-2013, 11:11 AM
Yeah, Lake County is requiring all sorts of extras too: http://www.lakesheriff.com/ServicesPrograms/ccw/CCWprocess.htm

MudCamper
06-19-2013, 8:35 AM
All the links in the first post are broken.

Both links in the "CGF Carry License Initiative - About the Project" thread in this forum are broken.

All links to the CGF Sunshine Initiative http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative are broken.

Can whoever maintains this please correct it?

Thanks.

taperxz
06-24-2013, 11:11 AM
:gene:

CriticallyStressed
07-14-2013, 5:06 PM
All the links in the first post are broken.

Both links in the "CGF Carry License Initiative - About the Project" thread in this forum are broken.

All links to the CGF Sunshine Initiative http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative are broken.

Can whoever maintains this please correct it?

Thanks.

Is anyone listening on this freq? One month later and the links are still broken?

I'm trying to review the known GC statements on calgunsfoundation.org and they're not there anymore! I have a renewal coming up very soon and would like to check the renewal statements first.

guisep
07-23-2013, 9:22 AM
Does anyone know if these are gone or are the links just in a need of a correction? I have San Diego's somewhere if we need it to be restored.

HowardW56
07-23-2013, 9:50 AM
Does anyone know if these are gone or are the links just in a need of a correction? I have San Diego's somewhere if we need it to be restored.

The files still exist and are archived. As the new Calguns Foundation website is completed more information will be restored....

Tac380
07-24-2013, 11:43 PM
The files still exist and are archived. As the new Calguns Foundation website is completed more information will be restored....

Any idea when that will happen, I posted about 5 months ago that the links were down. I renewed mine with out a problem but I know those GC statements are very helpful for new applicants.

Thanks

mixer152
08-11-2013, 8:45 AM
I'm also getting the 404 error for Marin. I might be able to help.

I am also absolutely astounded that there's even a possibility of getting an LTC/CCW in Marin. I had pretty much resigned myself to waiting for pending litigation before getting one. But if I can help speed the process up - sign me up!

I agree, thought marin was an impossibility. I would be all over that if it becomes shall issue

buckallred
10-08-2013, 9:13 PM
Hey, any update on fixing thise links? I need the sacramento statement.

Dvrjon
10-09-2013, 7:03 AM
Hey, any update on fixing thise links? I need the sacramento statement.

"Self-defense and defense of my family," seems to be effective.

JR

Rock6.3
10-15-2013, 11:31 AM
The files still exist and are archived. As the new Calguns Foundation website is completed more information will be restored....

Too busy fighting the bills on Browns desk.
Next will be too busy with litigation on the bills from Browns desk.
Followed by too busy with the election campaign.

EvoXRiley
10-28-2013, 8:56 PM
any updates with riverside county?

RevrendEarl
11-29-2013, 10:07 PM
Error 404. way to update guys. Lets hear it for calguns.

Connman
11-30-2013, 3:34 PM
Error 404 for Solano! Wa wa wahhhhhh!!

HowardW56
11-30-2013, 4:50 PM
Solano....

284894

Yaki
11-30-2013, 6:50 PM
Monterey County has had one for years on their website. Simple personal protection is all that needs to be stated. That's all I put down.

Connman
12-18-2013, 12:52 PM
Thanks!

909bobby
12-30-2013, 10:58 AM
links are still broken :(

HowardW56
12-30-2013, 12:44 PM
links are still broken :(


Which link?

909bobby
12-30-2013, 1:25 PM
Which link?

i tried the first 12 and all of them said 404 error. I'm just assuming the rest don't work as well

HowardW56
12-30-2013, 2:00 PM
i tried the first 12 and all of them said 404 error. I'm just assuming the rest don't work as well


It might be easier if you would just say what you are looking for....

909bobby
12-30-2013, 2:05 PM
It might be easier if you would just say what you are looking for....

in a perfect world id like to see one for san bernardino, but there isn't one listed so id love to read some from any other county

Tac380
12-31-2013, 1:50 PM
Which link?

How about ALL the links are down and have been down for over a year, I was looking for Sacramento a year ago abd tried them all and they were all down then and still are all down.

thatryan
01-15-2014, 10:19 AM
Any other place to see good cause statements for Contra Costa County??

Michael_Js
01-15-2014, 10:40 AM
San Diego Link Broken - and so is San Diego!
Good luck getting a CCW here!! :(

buildingdoc
01-16-2014, 2:47 PM
Orange county link is also broken...

Rock6.3
02-15-2014, 4:41 PM
The following counties have good cause statements available:


Alameda (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/89-alameda)
Alpine (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/91-alpine)
Colusa (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/94-colusa)
Contra Costa (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/71-contracosta.html)
Glenn (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/99-glenn)
Kings (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/104-kings)
Marin (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/109-marin)
Mono (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/114-mono)
Monterey (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/115-monterey)
Sacramento (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/122-sacramento)
San Diego* (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/70-sandiegopdf.html)
San Francisco (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/126-san-francisco.html)
San Joaquin (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/127-san-joaquin)
Santa Barbara (http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/130-santa-barbara)
Santa Cruz (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/132-santa-cruz)
Sierra (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/134-sierra)
Solano (Renewals Added 2/21/12) (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/136-solano)
Sonoma (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/resources/ccw-initiative/137-sonoma)
Stanislaus (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/downloads/file/67-stanislaus-county-good-cause-statements.html)
Ventura (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/144-ventura.html)

Still to come (* denotes pending litigation):

Amador
Butte
Calaveras
Del Norte
El Dorado
Fresno
Humboldt
Imperial
Inyo
Kern
Lake
Lassen
Los Angeles
Madera
Mariposa
Mendocino
Merced
Modoc
Napa
Nevada
Orange
Placer
Plumas
Riverside
San Benito
San Bernardino
San Luis Obispo
San Mateo
Santa Clara
Shasta
Siskiyou
Sutter
Tehama
Trinity
Tulare
Tuolumne
Yolo *
Yuba

Last edited by HowardW56; 02-21-2012 at 7:13 PM..


No activity for nearly 2 full years. :facepalm:

Doheny
02-15-2014, 4:56 PM
No activity for nearly 2 full years. :facepalm:

The need for a creative Good Cause (GC) will soon be a thing of the past. You either have a stellar GC now and currently have a permit or you don't. If you don't, we'll be Shall Issue before your GC is approved; that is, unless you happen to live in one of the counties that currently accepts Personal Protection.

.

Tac380
02-16-2014, 5:57 PM
The need for a creative Good Cause (GC) will soon be a thing of the past. You either have a stellar GC now and currently have a permit or you don't. If you don't, we'll be Shall Issue before your GC is approved; that is, unless you happen to live in one of the counties that currently accepts Personal Protection.

.

The ruling by the 9th circuit court of appeals is a victory but don't celebrate to quick, the 9th circuit court has also had more decisions reversed than any other federal circuit court of appeals.

Many other Federal Circuit Courts looked at California and sided with a Just Cause statement. the shall issue decision by 9th circuit court of appeals puts several federal circuit court of appeals at odds with one another. When this happens the US Supreme Court is likely to get involved for a final ruling with or with out an appeal to the US Supreme Court.

tabrisnet
02-16-2014, 6:24 PM
The most immediate question is whether en banc review is granted by the 9th. According to some [unreliable, as in i haven't read any primary sources] source, the county intends to file for en banc review shortly.

This is bad for us b/c a) it defers enforcement of the directive b) it delays appeal to SCOTUS (albeit I'm doubting the county wants to do that)

Miller.40
02-17-2014, 4:04 PM
San Joaquin's link is broken

Tac380
02-17-2014, 11:08 PM
ALL LINKS ARE DOWN & HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR OVER 2 YEARS

Rock6.3
02-21-2014, 6:20 PM
And we now celebrate 2 full years of silence from CGF's Sunshine Initiative.

safewaysecurity
02-21-2014, 6:24 PM
I still have my Contra Costa donation signature lol. I feel old.

tabrisnet
02-21-2014, 6:44 PM
And we now celebrate 2 full years of silence from CGF's Sunshine Initiative.

Although not a CGF lawsuit, Peruta changes the landscape considerably, and will hopefully mean that things start moving again. Scocca is presumably first.

tabrisnet
02-21-2014, 6:45 PM
I still have my Contra Costa donation signature lol. I feel old.

Hmm. Where did it go? I don't see it at the moment.

Rock6.3
02-21-2014, 10:12 PM
I still have my Contra Costa donation signature lol. I feel old.

Your Sunshine initiative signature is broken.
Mine is too.
CGF broke the links.

ColdDeadHands1
02-21-2014, 10:27 PM
And we now celebrate 2 full years of silence from CGF's Sunshine Initiative.

What difference at this point does it make??? :43:

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/62/2f/622f7c1115d983529b0d8a884ec94fe5.jpg?itok=BEzl7-9j

Rock6.3
02-22-2014, 2:08 PM
What difference at this point does it make??? ]

Donors to this project have been treated to 2 years of silence.

kenko
02-28-2014, 11:50 AM
Is there any time frame for the correction of the broken links? Or are they just going to leave the useless broken links in the important first sticky position?

ColdDeadHands1
02-28-2014, 12:03 PM
If Peruta stands, there is no longer a need for any good cause statement. Self defense will suffice.

fizux
02-28-2014, 1:36 PM
Is there any time frame for the correction of the broken links? Or are they just going to leave the useless broken links in the important first sticky position?
Yes, two weeks.

non sequitur
02-28-2014, 2:00 PM
Yes, two weeks.

http://youtu.be/70xGgWIw5tU

Rock6.3
03-04-2014, 6:40 PM
Is there any time frame for the correction of the broken links? Or are they just going to leave the useless broken links in the important first sticky position?

excellent question.

flyer898
03-20-2014, 6:03 PM
I have an appointment next month for Sacramento and I tried to get to the good cause statement by using the link. And then I tried every link on the page the first link took me to. I also tried the search function. Where have the good cause statements for Sacramento gone?

Dvrjon
03-20-2014, 6:08 PM
I have an appointment next month for Sacramento and I tried to get to the good cause statement by using the link. And the I tried everything
Sacramento is something akin to: "self-defense and defense of my family".

This may also help.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=373819

Cheers,
JR

flyer898
03-20-2014, 6:39 PM
When I had permits in Mendocino and before that in Humboldt County, "Personal Protection" was good enough. Thank you for your response.

Topliner1
05-19-2016, 3:22 PM
Links for just Cause Counties Not Workin??