View Full Version : Range Report on Buffalo Classic 45LC and Trailboss Cast Loads

11-27-2010, 6:56 PM
This is technically not a C&R, but it is a cowboy-style semi-replica of an 1800's Frank Wesson break action single shot rifle, so I think this is the best place to post it.

Earlier this year I picked up a Buffalo Classic in 45LC. I only took it to the range once and put a box of cast loads through it to ring a gong, but never tested for accuracy.


It has a bead front and buckhorn type rear sight. I have a very hard time seeing the rear sight, I might replace it with a peep or a tang sight.


Today I took it out with several different cowboy loads I worked up, all using 7 grains of Trailboss. Per my load manual, this is about 900 fps approx from a revolver for a 240 grain bullet, so probably 1200 fps from the carbine. I don't own a chrony to test load velocities. Obviously the heavier bullets are slower.

Load 1: 200 grain Bear Creek .452 diameter, hollow base, round nose.
Load 2: 240 grain Cast bullet .454 diameter, flat nose. Unknown mold as I got these in a trade.
Load 3: 330 grain Lee cast from 460 Hammer GB mold .459 diameter flat nose.
Load 4: 340 grain Lee cast from Lee factory mold .457 diameter semi flat nose.

All groups were shot at 25 yards. It was pouring rain and the only other distance at this range was 100 yards, so that wasn't an option. I shot 10 shots for each target, except for #2 (only shot 5 before the cease fire was called).

Load 1: The top two holes were sighters before I adjusted the rear sight down.

Load 2:

Load 3: (this boolit shoots a bit to the right, both on this and another target I shot)

Load 4:

Overall it shoots decently enough considering the rear sight and my eyes. With a rear peep it should produce tighter groups. The heavy boolits (especially Load 4: Lee 340 grain shoot better than I initially expected).

Anyone else have one of these?

ETA: "Boolit" = a hand cast lead bullet, usually made yourself.

11-27-2010, 10:51 PM
my eyesight wasnt up to the factory rear sight so I made this one up to replace just the blade.




I use it for a close cover pig gun. with 300gr bullits it will shoot around 2" at 50yds. DR

11-27-2010, 11:58 PM
Is that homemade sight a soda can tab?

11-28-2010, 7:53 AM
DangerRanger, that looks pretty good.

I have a spare TC Vernier sight (for a muzzleloader) that I was considering mounting to the tang. It would give a much better sight picture and provide enough elevation for longer distance shooting.

11-28-2010, 10:00 AM
Irish, with my old eyes I've found with the tang sight, a folding Beech front sight works well. Fold both front and rear down, and you have your irons for close work in the brush.


Cowboy T
11-28-2010, 10:46 AM
I think Bambi would drop very nicely at the hands of something like that. .45LC remains a very good all-purpose round.

11-29-2010, 9:24 AM
Very nice groupings look pretty good too. Something you can try for the sights. COLOR. ya it happens to the best of us. on the inside of the rear sight run a small amount of liquid paper. Then try it out. Same for the front. on the front sights a lot of guys will sand down the black to get to the metal. Then put a little metal polish on it. try doing things like this you may get the right color combination that will help you see down range earlier

11-29-2010, 5:54 PM
Scrat, thanks for the tip. I do use color (orange front and green rear) on all my pistols.

On this rifle I pulled the peep sight off my Buffalo Classic 45-70 and put it on the carbine and it works great. Far better sight picture.

11-30-2010, 12:58 AM
Is that homemade sight a soda can tab?

actualy no, the larger hole is the end of a hacksaw blade. the smaller is 1/16". the original sight blade was a large and small V notch. I just made a replacement that screws in just like the original. but now I dont look at the rear sight just through it. DR