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USMarine8530
07-02-2006, 11:18 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/eztli_ocelotl/barrett4.jpg

What do I need to do to make my rifle California Gun Legal.

Rifle in question is a Barrett M468. Chambered in 6.8 REM SPC with a 16.5 inch barrel.

Subject in question is a Active duty Marine considering the possibility of being stationed back on the west coast.

I call home Santee California, and my stint here in PA is comming to an end. I want to bring back both my ladies.

Jicko
07-02-2006, 11:46 AM
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Obtaining an Assault Weapons Permit for Active Duty Military Personnel:

Any person on active military duty with current, valid permanent change of station orders for duty in the State of California may apply for a DOJ Assault Weapon Permit for personal possession and or transportation of personally owned assualt weapons(s).

Does not apply for those under the age of 18.

Requirements:
- Completed Application for Assault Weapon Permit for Military Personnel
- $73 fee (postal money order)
- Two complete ten-print fingerprint cards (your security unit can often do these)
- A copy of your PCS orders

The application has the following information:
- Applicant's military rank
- Full name
- Mailing Address
- Physical residential address (if different)
- Telephone number
- Branch of service
- Name and address of military base or unit assignment
- Military ID number
- Make, model, and serial number of each assualt weapon to be permitted
- Applicant's signature

They called me within about four days of mailing and said that they were processing my permit. They left a message "the Department of Justice's Firearm Division would like to talk to you." - just what you want to hear on your answering machine!

It took about two weeks total to receive my permit. You can fill out a second sheet of paper if you have more weapons than the four spaces given on the permit.

Permits are valid for one year from issue or until the member terminates PCS orders in California, which ever comes first. Renewals are required each year and are free. They send a letter in the mail reminding you.

Department of Justice
Firearms Division
PO Box 820200
Sacramento, CA 94203-0200

I worked with:
Yolanda Garcia
Crimianl Intelligence Specialist 1
yolanda.garcia@doj.ca.gov
(916) 227-3274

Jicko
07-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Basically the same thing:

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ASSAULT WEAPONS Military Exemption - The DOJ allows active duty military members to apply for a DOJ Assault Weapons Permit during the course of permanent stationing in California. DOJ Business Rules, § 2.00, 15 February 2001. Active duty personnel wishing to keep their assault weapons during their stay in California must submit a completed application, two completed ten-print fingerprint cards, a copy of the official orders, military identification and a $73 application fee. All active duty members must register the firearm within 90 days. Permits must be renewed annually, until such time the permit holder’s active military duty in California is terminated. Members must keep the license on their person at all times when using the assault weapon, or at the place where the firearm is kept when not in use. Additional information is available in the Legal Office of your base.

SemiAutoSam
07-02-2006, 11:56 AM
Does this mean he can keep the weapon after he is no longer in the military ?

or would he have to surrender it ?

Is this a listed receiver ?

pinned mag or gripless might be the correct way to go if he can no longer posses this weapon after his tour is over and he is considred a civilian again.

USMarine8530
07-02-2006, 12:26 PM
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Obtaining an Assault Weapons Permit for Active Duty Military Personnel:

Any person on active military duty with current, valid permanent change of station orders for duty in the State of California may apply for a DOJ Assault Weapon Permit for personal possession and or transportation of personally owned assualt weapons(s).

Does not apply for those under the age of 18.

Requirements:
- Completed Application for Assault Weapon Permit for Military Personnel
- $73 fee (postal money order)
- Two complete ten-print fingerprint cards (your security unit can often do these)
- A copy of your PCS orders

The application has the following information:
- Applicant's military rank
- Full name
- Mailing Address
- Physical residential address (if different)
- Telephone number
- Branch of service
- Name and address of military base or unit assignment
- Military ID number
- Make, model, and serial number of each assualt weapon to be permitted
- Applicant's signature

They called me within about four days of mailing and said that they were processing my permit. They left a message "the Department of Justice's Firearm Division would like to talk to you." - just what you want to hear on your answering machine!

It took about two weeks total to receive my permit. You can fill out a second sheet of paper if you have more weapons than the four spaces given on the permit.

Permits are valid for one year from issue or until the member terminates PCS orders in California, which ever comes first. Renewals are required each year and are free. They send a letter in the mail reminding you.

Department of Justice
Firearms Division
PO Box 820200
Sacramento, CA 94203-0200

I worked with:
Yolanda Garcia
Crimianl Intelligence Specialist 1
yolanda.garcia@doj.ca.gov
(916) 227-3274

Thank you for all the preceeding information.

People have told me in the past that this does not apply to CA residents. That I may have to change my residency to PA before I PCS. Please tell me this is not true. Also after I have completed my enlistment, I will probably end up in Southern California as a civilian. Will I have to surrender my rifle?

bwiese
07-02-2006, 12:38 PM
Once you separate from service, you will not be able to retain the 'assault weapon' in CA. This permit is only valid for the time you are stationed in CA as active duty.

However, the Barrett 468 is an unlisted gun - meaning it's not a 'named' AW. Thus you could retain it, unregistered, in either:

a configuration w/fixed 10rd magazine; or

go 'legal gripless': no telestock, no flash hider, no forward grip, etc.

USMarine8530
07-02-2006, 1:03 PM
Once you separate from service, you will not be able to retain the 'assault weapon' in CA. This permit is only valid for the time you are stationed in CA as active duty.

However, the Barrett 468 is an unlisted gun - meaning it's not a 'named' AW. Thus you could retain it, unregistered, in either:

a configuration w/fixed 10rd magazine; or

go 'legal gripless': no telestock, no flash hider, no forward grip, etc.


Where and how much to aquire one of these fixed mag kits?

bonjing
07-02-2006, 1:11 PM
checkout the for sale forums under accesories, or check out tenpercents website.


prince50's design:

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=31115

semiautosam's design:

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=32414

ten percent:

http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/

in no particular order, and welcome to the forum

edit:
sorry if i missed any

hawk1
07-02-2006, 4:50 PM
Where and how much to aquire one of these fixed mag kits?

Hi Marine, I'm the one selling the Prince50 Designs mag lock at this thread;
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=31115

Send me an IM and I'd be happy to send to you one of the mag locks free of charge. A token of our (Darin and me) appreciation for your service. They include instructions if needed.
Regards,
Mike (hawk1)

USMarine8530
07-02-2006, 6:06 PM
Hi Marine, I'm the one selling the Prince50 Designs mag lock at this thread;
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=31115

Send me an IM and I'd be happy to send to you one of the mag locks free of charge. A token of our (Darin and me) appreciation for your service. They include instructions if needed.
Regards,
Mike (hawk1)

Your generosity has been duly noted. I appreciate your act of kindness. An obstacle designed to limit out magazine capacity has generated an act of kindness. I bet legistators didnt think that would happen.

Thank You and Semper Fi.
LCPL M. Vargas

m1371
07-03-2006, 6:32 AM
Hi Marine, I'm the one selling the Prince50 Designs mag lock at this thread;
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=31115

Send me an IM and I'd be happy to send to you one of the mag locks free of charge. A token of our (Darin and me) appreciation for your service. They include instructions if needed.
Regards,
Mike (hawk1)

Now THAT is good to go.

S/F
m1371

6172crew
07-04-2006, 10:20 AM
Now THAT is good to go.

S/F
m1371

+1:cool:

LCPL V. What is in PA? Are you attached to a reserve unit? Whats your MOS?

Semper Gumby

USMarine8530
07-05-2006, 10:12 AM
+1:cool:

LCPL V. What is in PA? Are you attached to a reserve unit? Whats your MOS?

Semper Gumby

Got stuck with I&I duty. MAG-49 HQ is here. I'm attacted to HMH-772 which is the only Marine Squadron in NAS JRB Willow Grove. I'm permanently TAD to AIMD because there is no MALS here, so I get alot of interaction with the navy folks.

My MOS is 6413/8530.

The 6413 means I am a NavSysTech. I work on IFF and Radar systems, along with the occasional cross training with the ComTechs.

The 8530 is my secondary MOS. I am a range coach. I worked at Camp Hansen's pistol range at Camp Smedley Butler, Okinawa Japan as a Block NCO. That is where I really got into shooting. There I shot Division Matches, while I didnt place very high, I learned a great deal about shooting from my elder Marines. 200 yards to 600 yards with no optics and a trusty old leather sling.

I dont really enjoy my primary MOS as much as my secondary MOS. I love teaching Marines how to improve their shooting. There is alot more satisfaction out of it and I hope to learn more so I can pass it on to my fellow Marines. Our chances of going to the Sand Box are now slim now that things are winding down. There is no real need for another reserve CH-53 squadron. So I take satisfaction in reinforcing and adding to the Marksmanship Fundamentals.

bobtom115
06-30-2009, 2:10 AM
Hi all, I am a new member of forum :cool2:

Joe
06-30-2009, 2:50 AM
Necro

Hi, what made you post in this three year old thread??

and whats up with the link you're hiding by matching the font color with the background?

http://simulationpretpersonnel.com/

whats that? spammer?

Joe
06-30-2009, 2:56 AM
After searching google a little bit. I see that this is just a spam bot or something.

Vindikacione
02-08-2010, 2:32 AM
Is Post #2 on this thread still Valid in this day and age?

ke6guj
02-08-2010, 12:00 PM
Is Post #2 on this thread still Valid in this day and age?yes it is, with the exception that Yolanda Garcia is no longer the point of contact for the MAWP. I do not know who it is, but a quick call to CADOJ should be able to get you pointed to the correct person.

aileron
02-08-2010, 12:08 PM
Wow this is a double tap necro post. Weird.

250rah
02-08-2010, 7:34 PM
Thats one of the nicest things I have seen in along time.
I have a guy stationed with me with multiple ar's he said to make sure you have all you want then register as it is legal for active duty to do this you can only submit it once with no additions, I forget where the info was but I am sure someone will know where it is.

bamawaterfowler
07-22-2010, 10:38 AM
I am active duty USAF being assigned to Edwards from South Korea. Just to update this tread:

new DOJ contact is Teri @ 916-263-0714. I was also told i am in violation because i did not register before bringing my AR-15 into Cali. That would have been quite difficult since i came from South Korea and my firearms were stored in US Govt storage in Florida. No, i did not have the serial numbers much less the ability to get finger printed. I think they should revise this regulation just a bit to give new inbound military members to California 90 days to get it registered. We should be able to use our DoD PCS (movement) orders as proof if questioned on those 90 days. There is a report date listed on the orders.

I will fill out the paperwork when the packet arrives and let yall know how it went!

be safe

Bama

You-Two
08-15-2010, 5:58 PM
I am active duty USAF being assigned to Edwards from South Korea. Just to update this tread:

new DOJ contact is Teri @ 916-263-0714. I was also told i am in violation because i did not register before bringing my AR-15 into Cali. That would have been quite difficult since i came from South Korea and my firearms were stored in US Govt storage in Florida. No, i did not have the serial numbers much less the ability to get finger printed. I think they should revise this regulation just a bit to give new inbound military members to California 90 days to get it registered. We should be able to use our DoD PCS (movement) orders as proof if questioned on those 90 days. There is a report date listed on the orders.

I will fill out the paperwork when the packet arrives and let yall know how it went!

be safe

Bama

Bama,

Is your AR an off-list lower or is it one of the listed assault weapons? If the latter, it would be a violation no matter what. If the former, you could install a bullet button to keep it legal until the permit comes through.

I understand where you're coming from though...if you had it stored with your personal property shipment there isn't a whole heck of a lot you could have done. Especially considering it is entirely possible to not know your follow-on assignment prior to leaving for Korea (happened to me). I would recommend you keep a record of the firearms serial #s in the future though if you use government storage. They don't exactly have the best track record!

Good luck on the permit, I'm just filling out my paperwork this week.

hawk1
08-18-2010, 11:37 AM
Wow, that's a blast from the past...:)

You-Two
08-18-2010, 11:46 AM
Wow, that's a blast from the past...:)

Yeah...but it is such a timeless topic here in California unfortunately!

TheBlackUnicorn
08-18-2010, 5:22 PM
I am active duty USAF being assigned to Edwards from South Korea. Just to update this tread:

new DOJ contact is Teri @ 916-263-0714. I was also told i am in violation because i did not register before bringing my AR-15 into Cali. That would have been quite difficult since i came from South Korea and my firearms were stored in US Govt storage in Florida. No, i did not have the serial numbers much less the ability to get finger printed. I think they should revise this regulation just a bit to give new inbound military members to California 90 days to get it registered. We should be able to use our DoD PCS (movement) orders as proof if questioned on those 90 days. There is a report date listed on the orders.

I will fill out the paperwork when the packet arrives and let yall know how it went!

be safe

Bama

Hey, I am in the same boat you are or at least I may be!

I am currently stationed in Japan and I called up Teri this week. She informed me that my permit would only be approved if I can show that I need these weapons to carry out my duties. WTF?!

I am active duty military, what am I supposed to do? Change my orders? Throw away my weapons? I am really regretting asking to be stationed in California! :banghead:

stix213
08-18-2010, 5:37 PM
Hey, I am in the same boat you are or at least I may be!

I am currently stationed in Japan and I called up Teri this week. She informed me that my permit would only be approved if I can show that I need these weapons to carry out my duties. WTF?!

I am active duty military, what am I supposed to do? Change my orders? Throw away my weapons? I am really regretting asking to be stationed in California! :banghead:

If for whatever reason you cannot acquire an AW permit you can configure most firearms in a CA legal configuration. Check the links under "AW & OLL Guides" above for specifics.

In general the way it works is if you have an AR-15 type rifle for example you would swap out any banned lowers with off list ($125 or so) and configure the rifle either as featureless (no pistol grip, vertical grip, flash hider, etc), or the easier way is to go 10 round fixed magazine by adding a bullet button device. You'll need to disassemble or leave out of state any 11 or greater capacity magazines.

You-Two
08-18-2010, 5:43 PM
Hey, I am in the same boat you are or at least I may be!

I am currently stationed in Japan and I called up Teri this week. She informed me that my permit would only be approved if I can show that I need these weapons to carry out my duties. WTF?!

I am active duty military, what am I supposed to do? Change my orders? Throw away my weapons? I am really regretting asking to be stationed in California! :banghead:

Are you a CA resident? If so, the MAWP would not apply since you have to follow the law like all CA residents.

Otherwise, this is incorrect from what I've learned. I posted the actual paperwork they sent me in this thread (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=265512). Nothing they sent mentions anything about duty weapons. I would just have them send the application package and fill it out as directed. Good luck!