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mdades
07-01-2006, 12:32 AM
i live in san francisco
and keep reading in
various places that it
is impossible to get a
ccw in this city. has
anyone had any luck at
that?
alternately, is it legal for
the resident of one county
(me in san francisco) to
apply for and recieve a ccw
from another county in
california (perhaps marin,
which is supposed to be
easier)?

thanks,

marianne ades
please reply via email-
'mdades@pacbell.net'

hw323
07-01-2006, 1:30 AM
San Francisco would probably be the last county in CA to issue a CCW. I think Marin County should be a no-go as well, as in most CA counties.

mdades
07-01-2006, 2:12 AM
thanks for the reply.
unfortunately, it didn't
answer my question.
san francisco has issued
six permits that i know of,
all to bigwigs.
marin county has issued
several hundred. other
counties in california have
issued many more.
as my travel is limited in
distance and time to marin,
alameda and san mateo counties,
i hope someone can tell me
if what i asked is legal, and
perhaps let me know what the
process is. i was unable to
get any answers from the
san francisco police or the
sherrif's dept, nor from the
doj.

bwiese
07-01-2006, 2:29 AM
Marianne...

1) You're gonna have to live where you say you live on your CCW permit.
You can't get a permit from one place and live elsewhere.

2) There is ZERO chance you will get a CCW in SF. It's difficult enough in other areas of the surrounding Bay Area counties anyway. Even those few hundred in Marin Co. are likely political cronies of sheriff, retired judges, those in the security industry, etc. There are some in Alameda Co. also but there are many hoops to jump thru and it's fairly unlikely there as well.

However, this restriction in #1 does not stop you from having two homes. You could, for example, have a vacation home or apartment in, say, Modoc or Tehama or Yuba or Kern counties (there are some other CCW-friendly counties too). You'd have to establish residence there; your 'presence' could be there (receive mail, vote, bank branch of record, etc.) at a valid address (not a PO box). You could then visit SF and there is no real limit on time or duration of those visits :)

mow
07-01-2006, 6:38 AM
You should head on over to californiaccw.org Read everything they have there, especially Billy Jack's posts.

I won't go as far as to say it is impossible, although if you decide to do it you may need to go all the way in one of if not the toughest counties/cities to obtain a CCW in CA.

The best thing you can do is document all of your correspondence with the city and county of SF. Send everything registered mail and follow all of the steps.

C.G.
07-01-2006, 11:00 AM
I thought this was going to be:D a joke.

gose
07-01-2006, 11:23 AM
thanks for the reply.
unfortunately, it didn't
answer my question.
san francisco has issued
six permits that i know of,
all to bigwigs.
marin county has issued
several hundred. other
counties in california have
issued many more.
as my travel is limited in
distance and time to marin,
alameda and san mateo counties,
i hope someone can tell me
if what i asked is legal, and
perhaps let me know what the
process is. i was unable to
get any answers from the
san francisco police or the
sherrif's dept, nor from the
doj.

Marin had 53 in 2004, according to http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/ccwissuances2004.pdf

Librarian
07-01-2006, 1:07 PM
let me know what the
process is. i was unable to
get any answers from the
san francisco police or the
sherrif's dept, nor from the
doj. No surprise about the lack of relevant info from that group...

Because the authority is at the police chief or county sheriff level, there are hundreds of different processes in detail, but all of them include
an application form
fingerprinting
a background check
an interview (I'm pretty sure)
a "good cause" statement
fees
Some issuers require a specific level of training, at the applicant's cost. Some require a psychiatric evaluation, at the applicant's cost. I believe all require listing each firearm to be carried on the license itself - it seems there is no generic 'carry ANY concealable firearm I happen to have' license - so an applicant must already own at least one when the license is issued.

The other source of information to see is packing.org (http://www.packing.org/state/california/)

mdades
07-02-2006, 2:17 AM
thanks for the info, everybody
i'll look around and keep
trying.

TKo_Productions
07-02-2006, 2:25 AM
mdades, do you have a nephew who lives in florida?

mdades
07-02-2006, 4:15 AM
mdades, do you have a nephew who lives in florida?

no, no relatives as far as i
know.
and, as far as i know, a ccw,
even the non-resident version
from florida, is not good
in california.

or, were you asking if i had
a relative in florida because
you know someone with my
last name (ades)? i have two
brothers- bruce, and scott,
and a sister, april.

donger
07-02-2006, 4:16 AM
I believe that Sean Penn had his CCW issued in Marin County. Do you happen to be a celebrity? If not, you probably won't get it.

Paladin
07-02-2006, 6:03 AM
As has been said before, ck out www.CaliforniaCCW.org It's a forum dedicated to helping people obtain CCWs in CA and advancing Shall Issue throughout the state.

Ck out the subforums for the counties you are interested in and be sure to contact "Billy Jack" for advice (after reading many of his posts). He was the resident expert for obtaining CA CCWs at packing.org and spends a lot of time at CA CCW.org now.

Jack_Bauer
07-02-2006, 11:50 AM
http://www.equalccw.com/expose.html

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/sfsheriff.gif

http://www.equalccw.com/donperata.gif

Chances don't look good unless you're a legislator, judge, LEO, or a celeb

TKo_Productions
07-02-2006, 8:17 PM
no, no relatives as far as i
know.
and, as far as i know, a ccw,
even the non-resident version
from florida, is not good
in california.

or, were you asking if i had
a relative in florida because
you know someone with my
last name (ades)? i have two
brothers- bruce, and scott,
and a sister, april.

Hi,

You're correct, a ccw requires that it be issued by the state/county in which you reside. California does not offer reciprocity. BWiese gave you some pretty good advice as far as a loophole goes.

The reason I asked was because on another forum, a member there mentioned that his aunt was seeking a ccw but that she lived in San Francisco. Apparently she was surprised to find out that she couldn't get one. She was a long time liberal/democratic sympathizer and assumed that because she wasn't a criminal that their wouldn't be a problem. Little did she know that it was her vote that had condemned her fate.

I thought, incorrectly, that perhaps he had referred you to this forum.

In any event, welcome to the community and good luck. :)

mow
07-02-2006, 8:44 PM
Chances don't look good unless you're a legislator, judge, LEO, or a celeb

If this can be proven by obtaining copies of applications of approved CCR forms (especially the good cause statements) using the PRAR, then she might be able to get one if she wants it bad enough to follow through.

jessegpresley
07-02-2006, 9:19 PM
You have a greater chance of winning the lottery; or being struck by lightning.

mow
07-03-2006, 7:05 AM
negative nelly in sector 3 b, prepare for renedification.