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kozumasbullitt
11-23-2010, 3:34 PM
I am looking to upgrade to a new safe and i have a budget of around $700. I am looking at Costco.com and found a few decent deals but am curious how good they are compared to the $500 Winchester safe.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11472575&search=gun+safe&Mo=8&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=gun+safe&Ntt=gun+safe&No=7&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11527572&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|114|3373&N=4042061&Mo=30&No=10&ViewAll=998&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=3373&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=

sk8804
11-23-2010, 3:46 PM
do not go sentry. they are cheaper than the winchester in my opinion. The only safes I would buy from costco are the bighorn or rhino safes. I have the bighorn 6039EL and I love it. I believe they have one that comes on sale for the price you are looking at.

kozumasbullitt
11-23-2010, 4:08 PM
do not go sentry. they are cheaper than the winchester in my opinion. The only safes I would buy from costco are the bighorn or rhino safes. I have the bighorn 6039EL and I love it. I believe they have one that comes on sale for the price you are looking at.

there is a current bighorn on sale for $799 but i was looking for something a little bigger like what you have or the next model down. What did you pay for yours?

Super Spy
11-23-2010, 4:09 PM
I've had the Winchester safe from Costco for almost a year and I'm happy with it. It's not a high dollar safe but it fits my needs.

kozumasbullitt
11-23-2010, 4:18 PM
the issue with the winchester is all the Costcos say they don't have it anymore.

sk8804
11-23-2010, 4:31 PM
there is a current bighorn on sale for $799 but i was looking for something a little bigger like what you have or the next model down. What did you pay for yours?
I paid $1299 for mine but it was well worth it. the company also has the best customer service that I have ever seen. They offer a 10 year lock warranty for $50 which will pay for the replacement lock as well as drilling the safe if the lock ever fails, and they will also replace the e lock with a combo if you would like before delivery. Mine weighs 850 lbs empty and the interior is great. Here is a link to a review by a calgunner: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=282705&highlight=rhino
10 guage steel, 70 min fire rating, weighty, huge door bolts, dual relockers, and nice interior. I looked at liberty and lots of others and for the price they could not get close to the same features.

kozumasbullitt
11-25-2010, 7:23 PM
I paid $1299 for mine but it was well worth it. the company also has the best customer service that I have ever seen. They offer a 10 year lock warranty for $50 which will pay for the replacement lock as well as drilling the safe if the lock ever fails, and they will also replace the e lock with a combo if you would like before delivery. Mine weighs 850 lbs empty and the interior is great. Here is a link to a review by a calgunner: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=282705&highlight=rhino
10 guage steel, 70 min fire rating, weighty, huge door bolts, dual relockers, and nice interior. I looked at liberty and lots of others and for the price they could not get close to the same features.
i think i might go with the bighorn 6039 as well, do you think it will work in a 2nd floor apartment?

Dhena81
11-25-2010, 11:35 PM
I would ask a structural Engineer about the weight I used to know it I just don't remember what the average pounds per square foot an average upstairs floor is rated for. I know it's a lot and if its an apartment it's probably more than the average for a Single dwelling space. I want and need a new safe too I was looking at Fort Knox and Browning. I would get the most safe you can afford there is a difference in the quality and you pay for it. Its hard to justify paying 3-6k on a safe but if you have 5-20k in firearms its worth it. I would look for a UL listed fire rating because your more likely to have a fire than a burglary.

Trader.Deb
11-26-2010, 8:44 AM
Traders Sporting Goods, now located at 3169 Castro Valley Blvd. Castro Valley. Give Mark a call at 510 727-9446!

kozumasbullitt
11-26-2010, 10:52 AM
Traders Sporting Goods, now located at 3169 Castro Valley Blvd. Castro Valley. Give Mark a call at 510 727-9446!

In reference to what?

bsg
11-26-2010, 3:25 PM
due to cost restrictions of your budget... consider buying a used safe from the secondary market.

do homework on candidates for ownership before buying.

upside of buying used safe; could mean a better safe for your money.
downside of buying used safe; warranty may not be transferable to you.

YZINGERR
11-26-2010, 4:12 PM
Isee this was posted before, but i did also buy a winchester safe from costco, it is inexpensive and very nice too... if it is still available

Travis Bickle
11-26-2010, 10:33 PM
Good educational info here
www.brownsafe.com

remember you get what you pay for, I don't need fancy, but I need safe

a good used brown safe would be a good safe

Kerplow
11-27-2010, 12:42 PM
i would safe up a few hundred bucks more and get the Bighorn 6039. its a great safe for the money. 10 ga steel and a 70 min fire rating is hard to beat at that price. i have one and i love it. i opted for the mechanical tumbler lock at no extra charge.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11468049&search=gun+safe&Mo=8&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=gun+safe&Ntt=gun+safe&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

MFortie
11-27-2010, 5:38 PM
Look at Sturdy safes...

http://www.sturdysafe.com/

I'm very happy with mine. In fact, I may need to upsize and will definitely buy another Sturdy.

EDIT: Damn! I just re-checked their website -- prices have gone WAY up since I bought my safe! Still good safes though...

johnthomas
11-27-2010, 6:32 PM
Guys, look on craigslist. Don't buy one that cannot be opened.
I read the thread about craigslist. A lot of people talk it down, what do you have to lose? I have made several purchases
and have been happy.

Saym14
11-27-2010, 10:31 PM
apartment floors are desinged for a load of 40 psf. a safe that is 2x3 and is 500 pounds weighs 83 psf or double the design load. if you install it directly over a bearing wall below you may be ok but consider that if you load it with guns and ammo it will wiegh much more and it will also affect the structure in an earthquake if its bolted down.

bsg
11-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Guys, look on craigslist. Don't buy one that cannot be opened.
I read the thread about craigslist. A lot of people talk it down, what do you have to lose? I have made several purchases
and have been happy.


i bought my old Browning ProSteel safe from CL.

i found the listing in 10 or 15 minutes... and picked it up same day; no problems.

this is an old school 1970s safe i got for $600.00 out the door in great condition. the seller helped me load the safe to my truck. i still own and use this safe.

kozumasbullitt
11-28-2010, 9:13 PM
apartment floors are desinged for a load of 40 psf. a safe that is 2x3 and is 500 pounds weighs 83 psf or double the design load. if you install it directly over a bearing wall below you may be ok but consider that if you load it with guns and ammo it will wiegh much more and it will also affect the structure in an earthquake if its bolted down.

If I jumped on 1 foot @ 240lbs, I would be putting 480 psf down so I never really understand the ratings. I have a safe that is about 600lbs loaded currently and I am looking to add 500 more lbs with a slightly larger foot print.

sk8804
11-29-2010, 11:30 AM
i think you would be ok

Kerplow
11-29-2010, 9:59 PM
If I jumped on 1 foot @ 240lbs, I would be putting 480 psf down so I never really understand the ratings. I have a safe that is about 600lbs loaded currently and I am looking to add 500 more lbs with a slightly larger foot print.

maybe if your foot were a 1' square and you doubled in weight? I dont follow your logic :confused:

Saym14
11-30-2010, 11:39 AM
If I jumped on 1 foot @ 240lbs, I would be putting 480 psf down so I never really understand the ratings. I have a safe that is about 600lbs loaded currently and I am looking to add 500 more lbs with a slightly larger foot print.

impact loads are different than static loads. the 40 psf is applied over the entire floor area for design and it is a minimum so there is some good factor safety. on my house its staying on the first floor slab.

kozumasbullitt
11-30-2010, 9:05 PM
maybe if your foot were a 1' square and you doubled in weight? I dont follow your logic :confused:

my foot is 1/2 of a square foot @ 240lbs, that is 480lbs per square foot. I think i will get a nice 4x4 3/4'' piece of wood and let the safe sit on top of that to spread out the footprint a little.

Saym14
12-01-2010, 11:19 AM
my foot is 1/2 of a square foot @ 240lbs, that is 480lbs per square foot. I think i will get a nice 4x4 3/4'' piece of wood and let the safe sit on top of that to spread out the footprint a little.

the plywood is a good idea. also if you are up against a wall there is probably a wall below. the most critical loading woulf be to put it in the mid span of the floor joists normally in the middle of the room. just dont put it next to your water bed. :D