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Markus
11-15-2010, 1:55 PM
Aim is selling Mausers from the movie the last samurai if anyone is interested just thought I'd let you guys know.

Link for the lazy

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F0M187184&groupid=12

Interloper
11-15-2010, 2:17 PM
What a trip! Surely they've been deactivated??

Markus
11-15-2010, 2:36 PM
You know I was wondering the same thing.... However it doesnt say that they are deactivated and everything else they sell is live. Whats also cool is that these are pre 1899 receivers you dont even need a C&R!

Plywood
11-15-2010, 3:19 PM
I think they are still active. Where can you get 11mm black-powder ammo? :D

Markus
11-15-2010, 3:22 PM
bolt action black powder?? :confused:

Plywood
11-15-2010, 3:22 PM
yup and tube mag also.

Captain Cogle
11-15-2010, 3:32 PM
bolt action black powder?? :confused:

Yes. The first bolt actions were black powder only.

Look up the Franko Prussian War.

Interloper
11-15-2010, 3:35 PM
I think they are still active. Where can you get 11mm black-powder ammo? :D

11x60R aka .43 Mauser. Looks like Midway and Graf's have the brass or you can make it from 348 Winchester. For some reason I thought it was rimfire but I guess not.

Old Western Scrounger has loaded ammo. $75 for 20 cartridges!:eek:

Markus
11-15-2010, 3:50 PM
Im sure somebody with more money than I will snatch these up. Im still pinching pennies to get a k31.

Rogerbutthead
11-15-2010, 4:42 PM
Sign a waiver? Replicated extractor and ejector?

Kinda get the feeling that these will break the first time you shoot it.

Good luck.

smeg
11-15-2010, 8:22 PM
They are interesting guns. Has a tube magazine under the barrel. For such a long rifle, they seem to balance well. They are also interesting in that almost every part is serialed numbered.
I don't know about shooting one as I have yet to find any ammo. I just get it out when I watch the Last Samurai or a civil war movie. (I know it's not a civil war gun, but it's as close to one as I got :))

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/sevoflurane/DSC_1048med.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/sevoflurane/DSC_1052sm.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/sevoflurane/DSC_1053sm.jpg

Cato
11-15-2010, 9:07 PM
They are beautiful guns. Ammo is really hard to find. I guess you won't be using this for serious target practice.

pullnshoot25
11-15-2010, 9:33 PM
From what I have read, the action is strong enough for smokeless.

paul0660
11-15-2010, 9:38 PM
Beautiful.

gunboat
11-15-2010, 9:40 PM
I noticed that the ad is very careful not to mention bore condition -
A decent original 71/84 is not much more expensive and probably more desireable than a one modified to look like a Murata --
348 win is not an easy conversion to 43 mauser, too short and rim must be modified. -
11mm brass was available from huntington --
Action is quite strong and smokeless equivalent loads are fine.
Fortunately I still have about 100 rounds including a few boxes of new dominion ammo.
my ha-penny

bigstick61
11-16-2010, 12:45 AM
I noticed that the ad is very careful not to mention bore condition -
A decent original 71/84 is not much more expensive and probably more desireable than a one modified to look like a Murata --
348 win is not an easy conversion to 43 mauser, too short and rim must be modified. -
11mm brass was available from huntington --
Action is quite strong and smokeless equivalent loads are fine.
Fortunately I still have about 100 rounds including a few boxes of new dominion ammo.
my ha-penny

A couple of years ago I actually ran across someone at a gun show who literally had a few crates of original military contract ammunition in this caliber. I've seen a case online once as well, around the same time frame. I don't know where the heck that stuff came from but it was pricey as I recall. Seems like that would have collector value, though. Not sure it was any good to shoot due to its age.

89 Vision
11-16-2010, 3:54 AM
Awesome, I wish I wasn't so short on funds at the moment.

smeg
11-16-2010, 8:22 AM
Oh, Sorry. I need to clarify.... The 71/84 I posted in the pics is not one of the ones AIM is selling. I was just showing the same type of rifle. I doubt the ones AIM are selling are as nice.....especially bores.

SVT-40
11-16-2010, 9:42 AM
More photos of an original rifle. Nothing but Mauser quality

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/German%20rifles/DSC02576-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/German%20rifles/DSC02578-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/German%20rifles/DSC02602-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/German%20rifles/DSC02592-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/German%20rifles/DSC02584-01.jpg

TRAP55
11-16-2010, 10:18 AM
Master Armorer Robert Galotti refurbished these rifles back into shooting condition. "replicated" just means those parts are not original parts.
I believe Grafs supplies brass, and if you don't reload, you better have a wad of money to buy loaded ammo.
Recoil is comfortable loaded with BP or substitute, and the accuracy is good, fun gun to shoot.

gunboat
11-16-2010, 5:04 PM
Bigstick -- I had a batch of 1888 dated loaded military ammo some years ago - Black powder, paper patched lead bullets -- Every round fired! but it was mercuric and corrosive primed --
The 71/84 is a beautiful piece of machinery. The first one I had was from Martin Retting about 1958, it appeared to be unfired and cost the whopping sum of $14.95. The one I have now is about 80% and its cell mate the m71 single shot is about 75% -