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Saguarosizzle
11-10-2010, 4:48 AM
Just saw Uzi lowers come up on Nodak's website...

http://www.nodakspud.com/NDS-1948.htm

Looks very tempting...Uzi build party???:D

Can anybody school me on building one off this lower and the legalities surrounding it?

NSR500
11-10-2010, 5:13 AM
You have to follow 922r if building a Title 1 Long Gun and you have to be in compliance with Federal and California laws. They're very easy to build as long as you have the correct parts.

daves100
11-10-2010, 5:19 AM
Will have to be a single shot when the lower is transfered to a FFL.

Tag for more info

SJgunguy24
11-10-2010, 5:23 AM
Will have to be a single shot when the lower is transfered to a FFL.

Tag for more info

No, Uzi's are long arms also

NSR500
11-10-2010, 6:09 AM
Just to add to SJgunguy24...

The NDS UZI receiver is just like their NDS AK receivers, and the typical AR lower. These are just virgin receivers and can be purchased by persons 21 and older.
The complexity of the situation arises with what can be built with them. If you build a Title 1 Long Gun, you must follow 922r along with the rest of the Federal and State laws. Virgin receivers that have NEVER had a stock can be built into AOWs if your location allows that NFA ownership option.
Then you have pistol builds... This would have to follow the home builder way of the California legal AK/AR pistol. At this point you'd either need to engage an FFL07 to present you with a California single shot UZI pistol for purchase. Otherwise, you'd have to do the home builder 80% route.

daves100
11-10-2010, 7:12 AM
Just to add to SJgunguy24...

The NDS UZI receiver is just like their NDS AK receivers, and the typical AR lower. These are just virgin receivers and can be purchased by persons 21 and older.
The complexity of the situation arises with what can be built with them. If you build a Title 1 Long Gun, you must follow 922r along with the rest of the Federal and State laws. Virgin receivers that have NEVER had a stock can be built into AOWs if your location allows that NFA ownership option.
Then you have pistol builds... This would have to follow the home builder way of the California legal AK/AR pistol. At this point you'd either need to engage an FFL07 to present you with a California single shot UZI pistol for purchase. Otherwise, you'd have to do the home builder 80% route.

But the UZI lowers on the website have to go to a FFL. in order to make a Pistol from it it will have to DROS as a single shot while at the FFL.

darkest2000
11-10-2010, 9:22 AM
It's a UZI receiver, not lower. the lower on the UZI is not an FFL item.

Building an UZI is even easier than putting together an AR Lower. As long as you have all the parts ready.

Saguarosizzle
11-10-2010, 10:19 AM
Great info guys!
Id be most interested in the pistol route...So if I've got this right, I DROS the reciever as a single shot pistol and I'm good to go? Almost seems too good to be true. I always have to think that there's a catch with the laws...

wash
11-10-2010, 11:12 AM
You can't DROS a receiver as a single shot pistol.

To qualify as a roster exempt pistol it has to be dimensionally compliant and have a fixed 1 round magazine. A bare receiver doesn't qualify.

SJgunguy24
11-10-2010, 11:54 AM
There is, an 07 has to build the gun for you, then it can be DROSed to you.

Great info guys!
Id be most interested in the pistol route...So if I've got this right, I DROS the reciever as a single shot pistol and I'm good to go? Almost seems too good to be true. I always have to think that there's a catch with the laws...

fpasuncion
11-10-2010, 12:40 PM
Mine is in the mail! Should be at my ffl by friday.

Saguarosizzle
11-10-2010, 1:29 PM
Got it...
So what I'm gathering is that a 16" barrel, pinned stock, 10 rd mag, and 922r is the way to go if I want to build on the DROS'd receiver at home and remain compliant/CA legal (much like an AR?).

NSR500
11-10-2010, 2:22 PM
Yup...

You can do a 16"bbl 30"oal fixed 10rd mag build, or a 16"bbl 30"oal detachable mag featureless build.

Python2
11-10-2010, 3:15 PM
Yup...

You can do a 16"bbl 30"oal fixed 10rd mag build, or a 16"bbl 30"oal detachable mag featureless build.

The only thing I can think off on a featureless build is to install a fixed stock and something to prevent you from gripping the grip since you cannot remove it am I correct?

SJgunguy24
11-10-2010, 3:31 PM
The only thing I can think off on a featureless build is to install a fixed stock and something to prevent you from gripping the grip since you cannot remove it am I correct?

Weld the folder and affix some type of fin.

NSR500
11-10-2010, 3:46 PM
You can also use the UZI wood stock and a Kydex Fin to go featureless. You would just have to mod the UZI grip safety.

Bing
11-10-2010, 3:48 PM
Or find an old Chinese made thumbhole UZI stock and fill that in.

Weld the folder and affix some type of fin.

Mac Attack
11-10-2010, 3:52 PM
How much would it cost to build one up? I know you would need a 16" barrel to make a rifle, semi-bolt, stock, grip with FCG and top cover and sights. I just looked at a parts kit and it looks like all those things are included with the exception of a SA bolt. Can a FA bolt be made into a SA bolt? Can you use the 3 position grip on a SA build or can it be pinned so you cannot get to the FA position?

I think it would be cool to build one but not if the cost to build is more than the cost to buy.

NSR500
11-10-2010, 5:19 PM
UZI bolts can be converted but the machining process is involved. The material is very hard and needs to be re-hardened after machining.
As for the 3rd position... Yes, a blocker bar has to be welded in the gun to prevent the 3rd position activation.

Regarding build costs... The UZI build can be economical if you're a good shopper. These NDS receivers have a 100% welded option, so all you'd have to do is slap your semi auto parts into place and paint your gun. Other receivers that did not have a 100% welded state had to have all the trunion, lugs, etc welded in which elevated costs.
The nice thing about these NDS receivers is that you can build to your specs. Vector is a good UZI builder, but Century can be very hit/miss. At least if you build it, you can hold the quality to your standards.

Ford8N
11-10-2010, 6:08 PM
I think I will wait till some manufacture starts making the mini and drops the price. Damn those things are expensive!

Stamatos
11-10-2010, 7:22 PM
This is VERY tempting. Does anyone have a guide for building one of these, I'll order my welded receiver tomorrow if I can get a list of the parts I'll need to finish and where to get them.
Post here for the good of all or PM me if you have this info. Or be a real champ and do both :D

ke6guj
11-10-2010, 7:34 PM
building an UZI is pretty easy.

Fully welded receiver.
Semi-auto lower assemby (you can modify a full-auto lower to semi-auto specs).
semi-auto bolt assy.
semi-auto sear assy.
semi-auto recoil spring.
semi-auto buffer
16" barrel (for semi-auto)
top cover (either semi-auto or converted full-auto top cover)


you have options regarding the rear stock.
you can either go fixed mag or with a solar tactical grip fin, depending on if you want to go featureless or not.

Bing
11-10-2010, 7:35 PM
here are a few links

http://uzigunparts.com/

http://www.danddsales.com/

http://www.dsarms.com/UZI%20Parts%20&%20Accessories/products/24/

http://action-arms.com/

http://www.robertrtg.com/uzi.html

www.floridagunworks.com - please disregard this one

Stamatos
11-10-2010, 8:24 PM
thank you, Bing! These links help a lot.

NSR500
11-10-2010, 8:28 PM
Don't use Florida Gun Works from Bing's links. Some people have had their orders filled and other have had a very terrible time with FGW.

Stamatos
11-10-2010, 8:30 PM
Good to know NSR.
so if I got something like this;
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=199791154
and the NDS receiver and a barrel, I'd be done? That is well under $600, what am I missing? Do those used Isreali kits suck or something?

NSR500
11-10-2010, 8:49 PM
Good to know NSR.
so if I got something like this;
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=199791154
and the NDS receiver and a barrel, I'd be done? That is well under $600, what am I missing? Do those used Isreali kits suck or something?

That Numrich kit is missing the barrel and the bolt will have to be machined for SA use. The grip will have to be blocked for SA use as well.
This link describes the trigger/lower mods that need to be done: http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/buildminiuzi.htm

Unfortunately, it does not show the bolt mods, but that involves machining. You may be better off buying an SA bolt right off the bat.

To be quite honest with you and the others interested in the UZI build, it is very easy if you're using a welded receiver. To finish the NDS you essentially need the UZI furniture and what ke6guj listed.

For an estimated $700, you can have a very nice UZI built by yourself.

building an UZI is pretty easy.

Fully welded receiver.
Semi-auto lower assemby (you can modify a full-auto lower to semi-auto specs).
semi-auto bolt assy.
semi-auto sear assy.
semi-auto recoil spring.
semi-auto buffer
16" barrel (for semi-auto)
top cover (either semi-auto or converted full-auto top cover)


you have options regarding the rear stock.
you can either go fixed mag or with a solar tactical grip fin, depending on if you want to go featureless or not.

Stamatos
11-10-2010, 9:00 PM
Thanks, NSR. I've subscribed to this thread for later use.
BTW watashi-mo amerika-jin da.
Which is probably why my Japanese sucks.

Bing
11-10-2010, 9:01 PM
Don't use Florida Gun Works from Bing's links. Some people have had their orders filled and other have had a very terrible time with FGW.

yes...sorry for the link on that one. I haven't ordered anything from FGW but I have read from other folks postings that they are not easy to deal with.

NSR500
11-11-2010, 3:50 AM
Thanks, NSR. I've subscribed to this thread for later use.
BTW watashi-mo amerika-jin da.
Which is probably why my Japanese sucks.

Can't suck that much if you read it. ;)

fpasuncion
11-11-2010, 5:12 AM
Watch out for Action Arms...heard he has a bad rep...even with the ATF

fpasuncion
11-11-2010, 5:24 AM
below is a reply I got from Mike when I asked which model uzi did they base there stamping on...
So if you're a perfectionist...you may want to wait to see if they correct the stampings.
I will correct it myself!

A model, as that is what it's cut for.

The stencil for the "B" sight markings were already on the stamping dies before the correction to "A" type sights was done.

Stamatos
11-11-2010, 1:17 PM
The gang over there gave really fast and friendly replies at NDS. I'm going to wait on the parkerized version and work on educating myself on parts kits until then.

NSR500
11-11-2010, 1:29 PM
The A/B thing really doesn't bother me much. My NDS UZI project is getting cut and modified anyways. I'm not too much of a traditionalist when it comes to builds.

Saguarosizzle
11-11-2010, 9:51 PM
The gang over there gave really fast and friendly replies at NDS. I'm going to wait on the parkerized version and work on educating myself on parts kits until then.

Looks like they will be coming out with a semi bolt assembly for <$200 soon, so I'll be waiting and researching as this develops!

daves100
11-11-2010, 11:20 PM
Have mine on order also. also the bullet button looks very easy to make. will have an example in a few days to post.

emon
11-12-2010, 10:21 PM
Me and my partners have developed a grip/magazine lock that you guys might be interested in. Our design is a very sleek grip that accommodates both a right and left handed shooter. We have a patent pending at the moment, and are currently in production with our first run. We are scheduled to have finished products by january 1.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/uzi_lo_res1.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/plate_cover_lo_res1.jpg

Ford8N
11-13-2010, 3:37 AM
Me and my partners have developed a grip/magazine lock that you guys might be interested in. Our design is a very sleek grip that accommodates both a right and left handed shooter. We have a patent pending at the moment, and are currently in production with our first run. We are scheduled to have finished products by january 1.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/uzi_lo_res1.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/plate_cover_lo_res1.jpg

Excellent. With the manufactures starting to make Uzi clones this will sell really well in the California market. I always wondered why someone didn't start making one, it was a sure money maker.

REDHORSE
11-13-2010, 8:14 AM
NDS-1948 - Fully welded UZI receiver 922r. Parts Count


Receiver - NDS-1948
Barrel - USA available (many)
Trunnion - NDS-1948
Bolt - USA available
Trigger housing - USA available (Group Industry)
Trigger
Sear - USA available
Disconnector
Buttstock - USA available
Forearms - USA available
Magazine Body - USA available
Mag Floorplate - USA available
Mag Follower - USA available


Note: Operating Rod part was not included in the ATF letter for the NDS-1948 Receiver. Although it was included with the Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count?! http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif

Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count Letter: http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/norincoATF.htm

REDHORSE
11-13-2010, 8:40 AM
CALIFORNIA CONFIGURED UZI - Post SB23

Parts you can use from an UZI SMG Parts Kit:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5895/uzikit.png


(A) Barrel Ratchet
(B) Barrel Ratchet Spring
(C Barrel Nut
Model A Front Sight Assembly [(D) Front Post/ (E) Nut/ (F) Washer]
Model A Rear Sight Assembly [(G) Rear Sight/ (H) Screw/ (I) Nut/ (J) Spring]
(K) Top Cover Latch
(L) Top Cover Latch Spring
(M) Folding Stock (Has to be welded in the open position to meet length requirements.)
(N) Folding Stock Retainer and (O) Bolt
(R) Foregrip panels and screws
Front Sling Swivel
Magazine (Made into 10 rounders)
Ejector - Save for spare parts. NDS-1948 has one installed already.


UZI SMG Parts that can be Modified to work in the SA.


(P) SMG Trigger Housing - Can be modified to work as SA only (weld a blocking plate, so selector can not go into FA section) and drill Trigger Housing for the larger 9mm SA frame pin or use 8mm frame bushing.
(Q) SMG Ratcheting Top Cover - Can be modified to in a couple ways to work in a semi.
Quick Release SMG Wood stock - Can be made to work as a fixed wood stock.


Semi-Auto Parts Needed:


16" (fixed stock) -22" (folding stock) barrel - depends on which stock is used or stock extension
Semi-Auto Bolt
Firing Pin/Striker assembly
Semi-Auto Recoil Spring
Semi-Auto Top Cover or modified SMG Top Cover
Semi-Auto Trigger Housing or modified SMG Trigger Housing(with Bullet Button)
Semi-Auto Trigger Housing frame pin (9mm) - SMG Grip uses 8mm frame pin (depends on what the receiver is drilled for)
Semi-Auto Buffer

Overall Lengths:

16" barrel with folding metal stock (folded)= ~24" OAL
.........Going to need a barrel to be 22" long (do not exist) to use this config, stock extension job will reduce the barrel a little.
16" barrel with metal stock welded open =~31" OAL

16" barrel with standard fixed wood stock or modified quick release SMG wood stock (Type 4)= ~31" OAL
.........UZI wood stocks also come in longer lengths of pull (Type 2 or custom US Extended length). The standard wooden stock (Type 4) is approx " shorter than an extended metal folding stock.

Stamatos
11-13-2010, 4:56 PM
This post above me is a lot of great info!
and

.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/uzi_lo_res1.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/plate_cover_lo_res1.jpg

Wow, that is really nice! Do you have a mailing list I could jump onto?

daves100
11-13-2010, 6:12 PM
Me and my partners have developed a grip/magazine lock that you guys might be interested in. Our design is a very sleek grip that accommodates both a right and left handed shooter. We have a patent pending at the moment, and are currently in production with our first run. We are scheduled to have finished products by january 1.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/uzi_lo_res1.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/anuarnina/plate_cover_lo_res1.jpg

add me to the list for a mag lock,

emon
11-15-2010, 1:06 PM
thanks for the interest guys. we are currently working on the web site, when that gets up and running we will start a mailing list. consider yourselves at the top of the list!

Saguarosizzle
11-15-2010, 6:42 PM
Nice! The plot thickens...

Count me in for a grip/mag lock!

Saguarosizzle
11-15-2010, 6:44 PM
Great info Redhorse!

Taildraggerdave
11-15-2010, 7:47 PM
Do you need any Beta testers? :yes:
Take care,
Dave

wilit
11-15-2010, 8:56 PM
Check out Sarco Inc. They have UZI parts kits too.

Stamatos
11-15-2010, 9:12 PM
Check out Sarco Inc. They have UZI parts kits too.
I emailed them asking if these are SMG or semi parts kits and since they are in their SMG section, I'll assume that is what they are and would need to be modified to go on the NDS receiver, right?

ke6guj
11-15-2010, 11:04 PM
I emailed them asking if these are SMG or semi parts kits and since they are in their SMG section, I'll assume that is what they are and would need to be modified to go on the NDS receiver, right?

yes, those would be SMG kits that Sarco has, look at the pic and you'll see a full-auto bolt and SMG barrel, and no semi-auto striker assembly.

There really aren't any demilled semi-auto uzi kits on the open market. Not a big demand to demil semi-autos.

Stamatos
11-16-2010, 6:07 AM
Your mods especially on the bolt would be quite intensive. Better to avoid the SMG kits altogether as you can't use the bolt and springs. Other parts can be located elsewhere.

I'm not looking to mod the bolt and springs, I'm hoping that NDS puts out a bolt soon and I can pick up the receiver and bolt at once but I understand from an above post that the receiver cover and trigger group would have to be modified from an smg kit to be semi. The post by redhorse reads that I'd just needs some pins and springs but that most of the other SMG parts can be modified for semi use if we're talking most of the "kits" that are floating around.

bedan86
11-16-2010, 8:16 PM
Get the welded one. As far as 922r goes, this one is pretty much a no brainer. The weld kits are all US made, barrels for the most part are US made. Your expense comes on the bolt. Striker is $65 and bolt is $189. At this moment D&D sales is the only one who has them in stock. There is word that another US producer will start selling to the public the bolts/strikers but that is still pending (as noted on NDS's website). If you want a mini, than your pay higher for the stiker assembly as no-one has it in stock.

CA legalities would be to make a mag lock (easy) on the trigger frame and conform to length...usually done by welding the metal stock open or using a wooden fixed stock.

Caiman, I have a pre ban Uzi receiver that I bought in 99 made by Group Industries. I also have a kit I purchased from Sarco a few years back. Do I still need a mag lock on mine and a long barrel?

NSR500
11-16-2010, 8:54 PM
bedan86...

The year you took ownership of a firearm in California does not matter. What matters is if you "Registered" the firearm as an Assault Weapon during the dawn of the California ban.

If your gun is not a "Registered Assault Weapon", it must be in California compliant configuration.

bedan86
11-16-2010, 10:21 PM
bedan86...

The year you took ownership of a firearm in California does not matter. What matters is if you "Registered" the firearm as an Assault Weapon during the dawn of the California ban.

If your gun is not a "Registered Assault Weapon", it must be in California compliant configuration.

Hi NSR, Thanks for your input, yes i did registered the receiver.

bedan86
11-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Bedan86,

NSR500 is correct. Based on if you registered it or not.

However, if you are able to get one of those Norinco wood stocks and cover the thumbhole, than no mag lock is needed and you can use hi-caps.

Question - Is your receiver stripped or welded? There is a guy selling cheaper than normal weld kits on GB.

If your lower trigger housing is a FA, bring it next time and I'll make it SA for you. Can probably swap you with one of my extras.

Hi Caiman,
the receiver is stripped. where is GB? yes i think my trigger housing is FA since i got it from Sarco. Thanks for the offer, you know I rely so much on you with this builds.

NSR500
11-16-2010, 10:33 PM
Hi NSR, Thanks for your input, yes i did registered the receiver.

Good on you!

At least your build can be more "Free State" than "Californicated". Just observe 922r, California OAL, and Federal BBL lengths.

AndrewMendez
11-16-2010, 10:52 PM
TAGGED!!!! Might I also add that these guns with the butt stocks look about as pretty as Caiman wearing MrLoneWolfs Sunday dress!

bedan86
11-16-2010, 11:24 PM
Good on you!

At least your build can be more "Free State" than "Californicated". Just observe 922r, California OAL, and Federal BBL lengths.

Thanks, I will, dont want anybody take my toy and put me in jail:(

REDHORSE
11-26-2010, 7:14 PM
Couple UZI Carbine barrels just went up for sale 16" & 18"

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57260

fpasuncion
11-27-2010, 7:29 AM
My 10 day wait ends today at 4:15!...semi auto parts coming in from D&D, as well. This is all I need for Christmas.

REDHORSE
11-27-2010, 4:07 PM
I have most my semi-auto parts, just waiting for the buffer and BB grip panel that I have ordered.

I have a local FFL checking up on the NDS receiver and to get me his pricing for me. I wanted to see if their pricing would be any cheaper than if I had ordered it and paid the out of state transfer fee ($60).

fpasuncion
11-27-2010, 5:49 PM
Buying from NoDak cost me $225...plus complete SA parts kit from D&D (all new parts, 2 buttstocks, 16" barrel, 2 magazine rebuild kits)= $637 w/ shipping...all this and it's still cheaper than having one shipped from Atlantic firearms or going through PRK.

I have most my semi-auto parts, just waiting for the buffer and BB grip panel that I have ordered.

I have a local FFL checking up on the NDS receiver and to get me his pricing for me. I wanted to see if their pricing would be any cheaper than if I had ordered it and paid the out of state transfer fee ($60).

fpasuncion
11-28-2010, 6:53 AM
Heads up to those building on these. I just got my receiver yesterday... the trigger group lug is 8mm on these NDS receivers. SA Uzi's are usually 9mm. I'll have to wait and see what D&D sends me. If it's a 9mm, I'll drill out the lug or keep it at 8mm and use an SMG trigger group blocked for SA.

Stamatos
12-07-2010, 10:03 AM
Any news on their bolt or parked finish receivers? I'm holding out for what I hope to be an early adopter package deal on both and have my smg kit on the way. I think they said 4 to 6 weeks and that was a little while ago now. Sure would be nice to order before xmas.

NSR500
12-08-2010, 1:27 AM
No news yet that I've heard. NDS does move fast as a company and they do have a good record of putting stuff out that is market ready. Hopefully the bolts and stuff will be out by the end of the month.
If not, I suspect it may be delayed a month because of SHOT 2011.

tonelar
12-08-2010, 1:56 AM
I'm buying one to house my 22lr conversion kit- debating lengthening the barrel vs pinning the stock.

Charlie50
12-08-2010, 10:11 AM
I hate you guys! Just when I thought I've gotten over this disease / habit you throw out yet another way for me to spend more money on another project... :mad: bad influences, all of you, just bad.

Now where did I save the Nodak site info at... "Favorites" that it ;)

MadRiverArms
12-08-2010, 11:16 AM
I'll be ordering a couple of the welded receivers. NoDak sure makes life easy...

-G

Stamatos
12-25-2010, 7:07 PM
Alright, my smg parts are on the way from Numrich but I have a quick question, do I need to get an SA sear for the trigger or simply block the selector?

fpasuncion
12-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Alright, my smg parts are on the way from Numrich but I have a quick question, do I need to get an SA sear for the trigger or simply block the selector?

Yes, you do need to block the selector and you need a SA sear...or do a search on the web. You can make a SA from the SMG sear.

Shady
12-26-2010, 12:40 PM
I see uzi builds in my future

Stamatos
12-26-2010, 12:52 PM
Don is a prince over at DandD and I just ordered my barrel and other goodies at a fanatastic price. Anyone still looking for parts should give them a call. Now I have everything but the receiver so I'm hoping Nodak can bust those parked ones out soon :D

daves100
01-04-2011, 8:09 AM
picked up 2 lowers one welded and one not.

what is the number for prince over at D and D and what was the prices

Stamatos
01-04-2011, 8:53 AM
Don should be able to cut you a nice deal, ask about sale items. I picked up a semi auto sear, barrel, SA bolt and striker assembly all in the $300 range, prices change every few weeks and I used my FA bolt from a smg parts kit for a discount. So call Don 520-803-1298 or visit their website for more info;
http://www.danddsales.com/
Their grip assemblies are a little pricey but everything else looks to be pretty fair if not a deal compared to most places.

Also, Henderson has mags for $12 and will ship CA parts build kits but ask Don, they might be able to match that. And if you want a wood stock to convert to non detach, Cheaper than Dirt has them for under $20.
Not sure if these are the best prices but these are the best I've found in a few months of looking.

tonelar
01-04-2011, 11:14 PM
+1 Don of D&D Sales in Arizona hooked me up with .45acp conversions back in the day.

I'm ordering one to house my 22LR conversion kit-
no more swapping in and out of my 9mm/45 carbine.

So, in rimfire, I just have to be sure it's 26" OAL, right?

NSR500
01-04-2011, 11:44 PM
+1 Don of D&D Sales in Arizona hooked me up with .45acp conversions back in the day.

I'm ordering one to house my 22LR conversion kit-
no more swapping in and out of my 9mm/45 carbine.

So, in rimfire, I just have to be sure it's 26" OAL, right?

Yes...

26" OAL at it's shortest

Rimfire = Detachable Magazines

Stamatos
01-18-2011, 11:23 AM
Finished my build this weekend.
Started here
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp101/Stamatos/Uzi_0001.jpg

Continues here 3 hours later;
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp101/Stamatos/DSC_0197.jpg

The finish is this great Nitrocelulous stuff that D and D sells. Don was great to work with they played a great part in helping me get the parts I needed. I'll be using the same finish to do touch ups and fix my work. This thread was a HUGE help, thanks to all who contributed, I'm really happy with how she came out, I'll report some results once I can get her to the range.

TurboAR
01-19-2011, 8:47 AM
Stamatos, That Uzi build looks nice, very clean, good job. Makes me want to build one. What was the approx. total cost of that beautiful gun. May have to sell some stuff off to fund the next project.

fpasuncion
01-19-2011, 8:48 AM
Stamatos...

Did you paint the barrel and trigger pack?

Stamatos
01-19-2011, 10:26 AM
I did not paint the barrel, just got lucky on color, I guess and the trigger was sanded and a light coat of the same finish that is on the receiver was applied to make it match better.
Turbo, the whole thing came in around $675 YMMV. If you don't mind doing about 30 minutes of labor, a lot of the expense is negated by converting SMG parts to SA.

TurboAR
01-19-2011, 10:49 AM
On the converting SMG parts to SA, is there any detailed instructions?

Stamatos
01-19-2011, 10:56 AM
There is a lot of help over at Uzi talk and the NDS receiver comes with some instructions as well. Honestly, it is a matter of welding (or JB welding) a plate into the trigger housing, removing a pin and replacing the sear and taking a tiny piece of metal out of the top cover. That's it if you use a wood stock, just drive a screw into the button so it cannot detach, that's my plan.
Here isa link to the videos I used for taking the sites out of the hacked up receiver you get in the kits. This is great info anyway that any Uzi owner or hopeful should check out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkhPIVASYww

gidddy169
02-11-2011, 7:17 PM
So basically it is $200 + $20 shipping for the NDS welded Receiver.
$250 for a uzi kit with barrel and then a
SA bolt and striker? MISC price?
Or $599 for D&D's complete kit plus NDS $200 Receiver for $800+?

Stamatos
02-11-2011, 8:26 PM
So basically it is $200 + $20 shipping for the NDS welded Receiver.
$250 for a uzi kit with barrel and then a
SA bolt and striker? MISC price?
Or $599 for D&D's complete kit plus NDS $200 Receiver for $800+?

I'm not current with the prices but that sounds pretty close, yeah.