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Moress
11-06-2010, 12:46 AM
One of my life long dreams, ever since I was a little kid, was to own an original, WWII era Thompson machine gun. Thing is tho, fully auto weapons are really hard to obtain in CA. My question is however, if you have a C&R, does that bypass the other laws regarding a full auto weapon or do you still need to go trhough the process of the $200 tax stamp?

Also, how much does a typical Thompson cost? I'm assuming quite a bit, but It'd be cool to get a rough ball park estimate.

Thanks

Mssr. Eleganté
11-06-2010, 12:56 AM
Your C&R FFL won't bypass any of California's restrictions on machine guns. It won't bypass the Federal $200 transfer tax either.

It will bypass having to transfer the gun through an FFL with a Class 3 SOT, thus saving you having to pay an extra $200 transfer tax if you buy one from out of state. But this only helps if you live in a State where you can own a machine gun. So if you lived in Nevada and found a C&R full auto Thompson for sale in Arizona, you could have the gun shipped directly to you with your C&R FFL after you get approved and pay the $200 transfer tax. Without a C&R FFL you'd have to have the gun shipped to a Nevada dealer with a Class 3 SOT and pay a second $200 transfer tax.

Check here to see what Thompsons sell for...

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi

Just put "Thompson" in the search box.

Dr Rockso
11-06-2010, 1:03 AM
Last I heard Thompsons could be found for about $15,000 and up (way up). You'd still need to get a tax stamp for it to be legal federally, which hardly matters since there's no C&R exemptions for machine guns under CA law. There is such an exemption for SBS/SBR/AOW, but not machine guns.

Quiet
11-06-2010, 10:45 AM
Also, how much does a typical Thompson cost? I'm assuming quite a bit, but It'd be cool to get a rough ball park estimate.
Not including the $200 tax stamp and any other fees (shipping/SOT transfer fee/etc)...

A transferable Thompson SMG ranges from $10,000-45,000 depending on manufacturer, model, condition and accessories.

Expect to pay around $16,000-18,000 for a WW2 era GI issued M1 Thompson SMG in decent condition.

Moress
11-07-2010, 1:31 AM
Good lord, I had no idea it was that expensive, I guess I can forget about that dream lol.

Mssr. Eleganté
11-07-2010, 1:27 AM
Good lord, I had no idea it was that expensive, I guess I can forget about that dream lol.

Just wait until we get the Hughes Amendment thrown out and you'll be able to get a brand new full auto M1A1 Thompson for $1000 plus transfer tax in a free State. :)

VegasND
11-07-2010, 5:58 AM
I'd love to see this, but what makes you think it's coming?
Just wait until we get the Hughes Amendment thrown out and you'll be able to get a brand new full auto M1A1 Thompson for $1000 plus transfer tax in a free State. :)

And to the OP -- I've had my hands on a few Thompsons owned by others and they are very very cool. If I had video of me with one I'd post it.

I can't afford one either...

Moress
11-08-2010, 12:01 AM
Just wait until we get the Hughes Amendment thrown out and you'll be able to get a brand new full auto M1A1 Thompson for $1000 plus transfer tax in a free State. :)

Whats the Hughes amendment and how is it getting thrown out?

jak77
11-08-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes, I would like to know more about this Hughes Amendment. Is this the one that bans more machine guns on the civilian market?

ke6guj
11-08-2010, 12:57 AM
Whats the Hughes amendment and how is it getting thrown out?

Yes, I would like to know more about this Hughes Amendment. Is this the one that bans more machine guns on the civilian market?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#Machine_gun_ban:_the _Hughes_Amendment AKA 922(o)

Yes, it is the one that bans more MGs from being transferable to civilians.

At some point in time, it might be ripe to be overturned per Heller.

2Bear
11-08-2010, 2:24 AM
Git' one of these...

Ruger-10-22-Thompson-style-Chicago-Reproduction-Rifle (http://sgcusa.com/Rifles-Ruger/c85_231/p4436/SGC-SF-Ruger-10-22-Thompson-style-Chicago-Reproduction-Rifle/product_info.html)

http://sgcusa.com/images/Ruger_Thompson_1022_A.jpg

Flintlock Tom
11-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Why not look at a modern semi-auto? Lots of flavors for under $1500.

Auto-Ordnance (http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1TH_t.html)

WWII collector
11-08-2010, 11:46 AM
If you want a real one and don't care if it fires, look at one of these.

http://www.ima-usa.com/product_info.php/products_id/3084