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glennsche
11-04-2010, 2:40 PM
hi there everyone,

not sure if anyone but harmoniums and crusader will remember me, but i emigrated to switzerland earlier this year. i'm back over xmas and got my FFL xfered to my perm addy and would like to get a mosin repro sniper when i'm home.

J&G has em but the reviews are mixed, anyone got a recommendation on where to pick one up when i'm home?

here's a little swiss gun porn for y'all, look what you can get here for 250CHF (a little less than 300 USD)

http://www.gebrauchtwaffen.ch/annoncen/detail.php?siteid=25114

or k31s for under 100... and another sg57 for 350
http://www.gebrauchtwaffen.ch/annoncen/detail.php?siteid=26788

Dmitri76
11-04-2010, 7:40 PM
I have seen these guys http://www.southernohiogun.com/ have it for $350, but you need an account and an FFL or C&R to sign up and see gun prices. All they have is one pic and no reviews so i can't really say how they are compared to $450 from J&G. The price is very tempting though.

Toyman321
11-04-2010, 7:46 PM
Century Arms has them on sale through the end of November for $100 off their prices on their "Excellent" graded 91/30 snipers.

emcon5
11-04-2010, 8:11 PM
I have seen these guys http://www.southernohiogun.com/ have it for $350, but you need an account and an FFL or C&R to sign up and see gun prices. All they have is one pic and no reviews so i can't really say how they are compared to $450 from J&G. The price is very tempting though.

SOG ones are from Century.

The best is probably Rguns, I think they still have real ones. They aren't $350 though.

Interloper
11-04-2010, 8:25 PM
Hands down, RGuns. (http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-bolt.shtml)
Original GPW mount and scope.

aGunForEachHand
11-04-2010, 8:38 PM
Rguns has the only original ones that I know of. I wouldn't go with a repro. Got one myself from rguns and I am very happy with it. Beautiful bore, and excellent overall condition.

Peter.Steele
11-04-2010, 9:14 PM
Samco has some originals left, both PU and side-mount PEM. They'rej ust the rifle and bolt, though, no scope and mount. They're $299.

I had a friend that ordered one of the guns from SOG. He paid extra for hand select, and it turned out to be an utter POS. Bore was nasty and pitted all to hell and gone. I don't think I'd waste time with any of the Century repros.

jaq
11-04-2010, 9:22 PM
The Century/SOG ones are advertised as Ukrainian Snipers - not repros. Does anyone know for certain that this is a misrepresentation?

Interloper
11-04-2010, 9:27 PM
I don't know about SOG but the Century ones are restorations with new made scope and mount. Judging by the one WWII Collector posted, they are resnipered ex-snipers.

jaq
11-04-2010, 9:56 PM
I don't know about SOG but the Century ones are restorations with new made scope and mount. Judging by the one WWII Collector posted, they are resnipered ex-snipers.

Right. Thanks for the reply. I've never bought directly from Century, but I have bought from SOG. After reading your post I checked on Century's site and they claim that they are "These are refinished M91/30 rifles fitted with a military style scope mount and reproduction PU Sniper scope."

SOG advertises theirs as "Russian Mosin Nagant Md. 91/30 military sniper rifle in 7.62x54 caliber. In from the Ukraine...these rifles are in very good to excellent condition and comes with original PU 3.5 sniper scope with certificate."
Dealer price = $349

Peter.Steele
11-04-2010, 10:55 PM
Right. Thanks for the reply. I've never bought directly from Century, but I have bought from SOG. After reading your post I checked on Century's site and they claim that they are "These are refinished M91/30 rifles fitted with a military style scope mount and reproduction PU Sniper scope."

SOG advertises theirs as "Russian Mosin Nagant Md. 91/30 military sniper rifle in 7.62x54 caliber. In from the Ukraine...these rifles are in very good to excellent condition and comes with original PU 3.5 sniper scope with certificate."
Dealer price = $349


SOG's full of crap.

The scopes are PU scopes, yes, but they're new manufacture, not vintage.

These are the same Century repro snipers that you can buy anywhere else.

Markus
11-04-2010, 11:03 PM
Which would be a good choice for a shooter? A reproduction would be nice but not in the budget.

Peter.Steele
11-05-2010, 12:19 AM
Which would be a good choice for a shooter? A reproduction would be nice but not in the budget.



If you can't afford a repro, then you can't afford a real one either.


That said, check out Samco for the $299 real snipers Then check out www.accumounts.com for a scope / mount / base setup. The Accumounts stuff is all repro, but it's honestly marked as such, and it's very high quality. I've dealt with Johnny before, and he's a really good guy.

Jarhead
11-05-2010, 9:13 PM
For an Original Sniper has to be RGuns followed by Samco ( scopeless ), if you want a Fake them most everyone else from Big5 to SOG

Interloper
11-05-2010, 10:07 PM
I have the memory of a gerbil so correct me here if I'm wrong. The bent bolt Samco rifles are a bit of a mystery in that they were imported with the bent bolts yet they do not appear to be ex snipers. Am I making this up?

Jarhead
11-06-2010, 10:40 PM
the Samco's are scopeless original snipers, they are the real deal.

mosinnagantm9130
11-06-2010, 11:00 PM
the Samco's are scopeless original snipers, they are the real deal.

This^^

50 Freak
11-07-2010, 7:18 AM
Who restores original snipers (aka will re-drill the holes for a mount and such)

J20DB
11-07-2010, 7:45 AM
I had a friend that ordered one of the guns from SOG. He paid extra for hand select, and it turned out to be an utter POS. Bore was nasty and pitted all to hell and gone. I don't think I'd waste time with any of the Century repros.

I had the same experience with SOG. Bought a hand-select M98k, ended up with a rifle with a very heavily pitted bore and a huge dent/gash in the stock. I'd stay away from them.

Peter.Steele
11-07-2010, 2:40 PM
Who restores original snipers (aka will re-drill the holes for a mount and such)


The Samco guns don't need to be restored. They've got the holes already. Just buy the parts from Accumounts.com and put them on. Gotta make sure you get the right size PU base, though - there's two different sizes. I have heard, however, that the Samco guns are not necessarily in the best condition. I haven't seen one of the ones they have left though, so I don't know.

I got my ex-sniper re-drilled and tapped at Second Amendment Sports in Bakersfield a couple years back.

Cost me about $30 or so, IIRC. The gunsmith didn't make up a ticket for it, so the counter guy was like 'well hell, looks like he didn't really want to make any money today,' and charged me the minimum gunsmithing fee - a half-hour basic diagnostic. :Pirate:

Jarhead
11-08-2010, 7:31 PM
TIP: if the accumount scope base doesn't line up with the Samco Scopeless Sniper modify the base not the rifle

Peter.Steele
11-08-2010, 8:33 PM
TIP: if the accumount scope base doesn't line up with the Samco Scopeless Sniper modify the base not the rifle



TIP: There's two sizes of base, so measure the rifle before you order the base from Accumounts, so that you can make sure you get the right size.

laika
11-11-2010, 11:37 AM
Rguns has ex snipers with bent bolts but w/o scopes as well as their complete snipers. Would you recommend Samco over them? I find $800 a little steep but I really would like a sniper. Thanks

Peter.Steele
11-11-2010, 12:13 PM
Rguns has ex snipers with bent bolts but w/o scopes as well as their complete snipers. Would you recommend Samco over them? I find $800 a little steep but I really would like a sniper. Thanks



I don't know what the condition is of the guns from Samco, other than that they're original, but with no scopes or mounts. They've had them for a while, so the best ones may be gone. Beyond that, dunno.

timdps
11-11-2010, 12:36 PM
Rguns has ex snipers with bent bolts but w/o scopes as well as their complete snipers. Would you recommend Samco over them? I find $800 a little steep but I really would like a sniper. Thanks

The bent bolt rifles are NOT ex-snipers.
"Standard M91/30 rifle fitted with original sniper turned down bolt handle."


Best bet is the RGuns original (even though refurbished) snipers (with original WWII scopes) at $800, followed by the Samco scopeless snipers at $300 (add a repro scope from accumounts). With these two options you are getting original sniper rifles rather than repro scopes mounted on random refurb 91/30s.

A Samco scopeless with a repro scope won't cost a whole lot more than a Century/IO repro rifle

Tim

laika
11-11-2010, 12:48 PM
Thanks. I notice at R guns they do have ex snipers (but with straight bolts) for $100 or so. Somehow I figured the bent bolt models would be the same.

I hear good things about the Accumounts scopes. I am now torn between getting an all original Rguns for about $200 more than the Samco/accumount combo and going Samco for about $600 total.

How are the original Rguns scopes, does anyone know? Would a reproduction be better overall? Choices, choices on this long holiday weekend!

Peter.Steele
11-11-2010, 1:17 PM
Thanks. I notice at R guns they do have ex snipers (but with straight bolts) for $100 or so. Somehow I figured the bent bolt models would be the same.

I hear good things about the Accumounts scopes. I am now torn between getting an all original Rguns for about $200 more than the Samco/accumount combo and going Samco for about $600 total.

How are the original Rguns scopes, does anyone know? Would a reproduction be better overall? Choices, choices on this long holiday weekend!




Accumounts makes some damned fine stuff. I've had nothing but good experiences and good service with them. When I re-snipered my ex-sniper, the scope base that I got with my scope turned out to be the wrong size, so I ordered one of the Accumounts ones. Good service, good product.

I'd actually like to get one of their 1" scope mounts at some point.

I don't know how their scopes themselves are - I don't know where they're coming from - but if they're selling them, then they're good quality.

Another good source are the guys on eBay that are located in the Ukraine. Those ones are usually very high quality, and made in the same factory, on the same equipment, and to the same specifications as the original PU scopes. Good stuff, from what I've seen. I'm about 99% sure that those are the ones that Century is putting on their rifles. They appear to be marked the same, anyway.