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bballwizard05
11-04-2010, 1:52 PM
OK OK OK WAIT BEFORE YOU START YELLING AT ME.... I'm mostly kidding. I had to get you in the door.

BUT I have seen a few scope rails that replace the upper hand guard for the M1 garand, and they do not require any modification so it can go back to original configuration. Does anyone have any experience with any sort of aftermarket scope mount for the M1 garand? If they make one that works... I may want to have that option for a decent scope.

please keep the yelling to a minimum...:D

thoughts?

Milsurp Collector
11-04-2010, 2:35 PM
Because of the need to load the en bloc clip from the top, where the scope can go is limited. You end up using a scout scope type mount and a long eye relief scope. The CMP used to sell a replacement for the rear handguard (not mine, web photo).

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/napanerd/100_0468.jpg

The Garand has one of the best iron sights ever installed on a battle rifle. Before messing around thinking about getting a scope before you even have the rifle, try shooting it with the iron sights first. Good marksmen do very well with the iron sights. ;)

olhunter
11-04-2010, 2:41 PM
That would be cool. As long as it all goes back, no biggie.

When people start cutting and drilling, then the SHTF.

Let us know how it works.

POLICESTATE
11-04-2010, 2:42 PM
I'm disappointed, I was expecting pictures or at least a list of things to make an M1 Garand EBR :(

HalfMeltingEyes
11-04-2010, 2:44 PM
Stick it in a Sage!!!

POLICESTATE
11-04-2010, 2:46 PM
Stick it in a Sage!!!

Now there's an idea! Should be fairly straightforward more or less?

bballwizard05
11-04-2010, 3:43 PM
Because of the need to load the en bloc clip from the top, where the scope can go is limited. You end up using a scout scope type mount and a long eye relief scope. The CMP used to sell a replacement for the rear handguard (not mine, web photo).


The Garand has one of the best iron sights ever installed on a battle rifle. Before messing around thinking about getting a scope before you even have the rifle, try shooting it with the iron sights first. Good marksmen do very well with the iron sights. ;)



I am completely in agreement with you here, did the same thing with my ruger 10/22 and my Saiga when I had it. You know how it is when you order a new gun and you must wait... your mind goes EVERYWHERE. I am biiiig history buff, especially WWII and would never permantently alter any old rifle (except for a 91/30 someday!), Anyways this whole M1 kick started when I really wanted an M1A, but between not being able to afford one now or for awhile I went with my other desire the Garand. Thats why I am going down this path, and thought I would look into my options of eventually scoping it. I want to be able to shoot longer ranges (500 yards or so) but my eyes aren't that great, thus the scope. thanks for the responses so far

btw: it does look kinda cool.

comblock
11-04-2010, 3:45 PM
:ban:

Milsurp Collector
11-04-2010, 4:22 PM
This is the company that makes the Garand rail that the CMP sold http://www.amegaranges.com/product_pages/m1garand.html
http://www.amegaranges.com/subPage/amega_pdfs/m1garand_install.pdf

ChrisO
11-04-2010, 4:39 PM
I was going to get a Sage stock for my garand not to long ago, I was about to order one and it ended up not being the stock I was looking for. The one with the pistol grip was in such low demand they wouldn't have one for months. I gave up on the idea for now but I will do it eventually I think it would be a cool toy.

ChrisO
11-04-2010, 4:40 PM
As others have stated the m1 garand has IMO one of THE BEST pair of sights ever put on a rifle.

bballwizard05
11-04-2010, 7:18 PM
This is the company that makes the Garand rail that the CMP sold http://www.amegaranges.com/product_pages/m1garand.html
http://www.amegaranges.com/subPage/amega_pdfs/m1garand_install.pdf



that actually looks pretty good, and I think it could work for me. I probably won't get one for awhile but thanks for the site.

rojocorsa
11-04-2010, 7:55 PM
I'm disappointed, I was expecting pictures or at least a list of things to make an M1 Garand EBR :(



Last time I went to the Cow Palace, some dude had a SAGEish looking rig on an M-1 on display; rails were slapped on, everywhere.

metalliman545
11-04-2010, 11:32 PM
the M1 garand is an M1 garand, not a super tacitcool rifle
what it is, its a great tool that was used in war. all the modifacations that needed to be done to it and were, and its called the M14(m1a) keep the rifle as is. iknow if i saw one at a range like that id be pretty sad to see such a beauty that was disgraced.

bballwizard05
11-04-2010, 11:34 PM
the M1 garand is an M1 garand, not a super tacitcool rifle
what it is, its a great tool that was used in war. all the modifacations that needed to be done to it and were, and its called the M14(m1a) keep the rifle as is. iknow if i saw one at a range like that id be pretty sad to see such a beauty that was disgraced.



I do agree with you, but since its not permanent... just think of it as a spray on tan! I'll just get it to pick up chicks, then scrub it off when I'm done! :)

just looking at options, don't burn me at the stake yet!

metalliman545
11-04-2010, 11:48 PM
haha yea i understand it aint permanant. but thats what the M1a is for. idk anyone who bought an M1 garand to change it.

Reductio
11-05-2010, 12:00 AM
^^ not all of us can afford both. I might very well pick up one of these after I get comfortable with mine.

You are holding to the code and keeping it reversible...

NaughtyMonkey
11-05-2010, 1:29 AM
Just buy a CMP Sniper model there only $1500

bballwizard05
11-05-2010, 10:47 AM
Just buy a CMP Sniper model there only $1500



haha silly monkey's say the darndest things.



Well anyways the mount isn't exactly cheap so it may be a little bit before i get it. But it will probably happen to at least give me the option. We'll see, i'll just keep it a dark secret! You guys will never know!

Interloper
11-05-2010, 10:48 AM
How secure is a Garand handguard? My only experience with mounts of this type are the ones for the SKS and they suck. The hanguard just has too much play and the scope won't hold zero.

Milsurp Collector
11-05-2010, 11:06 AM
How secure is a Garand handguard? My only experience with mounts of this type are the ones for the SKS and they suck. The hanguard just has too much play and the scope won't hold zero.

Check out the installation instructions http://www.amegaranges.com/subPage/amega_pdfs/m1garand_install.pdf

The mount clamps to the barrel.

bballwizard05
11-05-2010, 11:08 AM
it seems like it would be solid, and for 160$ it better be. Like I said, IF I get it, its not gonna be for awhile. So if someone else on here gets it please post pictures and a report!

NiteQwill
11-05-2010, 6:23 PM
Noooo, don't.

The irons on the M1 are spectacular. I wish my EBR's had something similar.

bballwizard05
11-05-2010, 6:58 PM
Noooo, don't.

The irons on the M1 are spectacular. I wish my EBR's had something similar.



Its ok big guy, its not like I'm gonna punch a baby.... this would be totally reversible. Plus like I said, I wont' do it for awhile. Maybe I'll fall in love with the irons and this will all be a mute point! But i'm kinda blind so we'll see

Milsurp Collector
11-05-2010, 7:52 PM
I want to be able to shoot longer ranges (500 yards or so) but my eyes aren't that great, thus the scope.

But i'm kinda blind so we'll see

If your problem is with your vision a scope is not the only solution.

http://www.myeyepal.com/
http://bjonessights.com/SR.html

bballwizard05
11-05-2010, 8:04 PM
If your problem is with your vision a scope is not the only solution.

http://www.myeyepal.com/
http://bjonessights.com/SR.html


Wow that second one looks really intriguing. Any idea on which one is more liked? I'd just prefer to have a special iron sight than to have to wear something on my glasses

Milsurp Collector
11-05-2010, 8:13 PM
Wow that second one looks really intriguing. Any idea on which one is more liked? I'd just prefer to have a special iron sight than to have to wear something on my glasses

http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13725

B Jones also makes a sight for the AR http://www.bjonessights.com/AR15.html

I use B Jones glasses for my shooting glasses. The shape of the frame is designed for use when your head is tilted as when aiming a rifle. They look kind of funny but they work real well http://www.bjonessights.com/glasses.html

Sunday
11-05-2010, 8:22 PM
I am a fan of the Garand and I really like the mount. How about a Smith muzzle brake to finish the upgrade out ??? How does the scope work out.

Interloper
11-05-2010, 10:28 PM
If your problem is with your vision a scope is not the only solution.

http://www.myeyepal.com/
http://bjonessights.com/SR.html

Not really germane to the OP...
My dad has wicked bad cataracts. It's a side effect of the steroids he takes for his rheumatism. Although he's very nearly blind, he sees perfectly through his rifle scope. I think it's because the tube blocks glare and let's his eyes see only focused light. Weird, huh? His eye doctor was rather surprised. Anyway, he gets eye surgery in February and should be right as rain after that. /derail.

PyroFox79
11-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Its your rifle do what you want.

Bigtwin
11-05-2010, 11:15 PM
Its your rifle do what you want.

^^^^THIS^^^

If you are not making any permenant alterations the the Garand(or the Mosin you mentioned earlier), then go for it! Spend till your heart is content and enjoy it!

campperrykid
11-06-2010, 6:48 AM
If you want to let the old warrior draw some blood and harvest some groceries , the Ultimak style mount can come in very handy. Garand irons are great , but a 2 1/2x scope helps with final target confirmation and shot placement . Nice if you need to miss the branches in front of the animal as well. Sometimes the one branch that could deflect the bullet is invisible with irons.

Mac Attack
11-06-2010, 9:26 AM
You can always try to find one of these. I wish I would have purchased one back when they were $100. It would make a nice M1D reproduction.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=244564

I just saw that e-gunparts have them in stock but BOY have the prices gone up.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=546860&filter=546860&catid=0

By the time you invested in the rifle ($600) the repro barrel and mount ($300) and shipping you are close to $1k and all you would have is a repro rifle. Not that I have the money to do it, but I would buy the real deal from the CMP for $1,500.