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Falstaff
11-02-2010, 8:05 PM
How will DOJ handle a major handgun manufacturer bypassing their silly roster by shipping semi autos converted to single shot long barrel versions en masse?

jl123
11-02-2010, 8:12 PM
How will DOJ handle a major handgun manufacturer bypassing their silly roster by shipping semi autos converted to single shot long barrel versions en masse?

Probably by trying to ban conversions......pr something similarly stupid.

LethalDog
11-02-2010, 8:16 PM
If DOJ keeps this up, they'll soon run out of a job.

J-cat
11-02-2010, 8:22 PM
DOJ cannot ban anything.

383green
11-02-2010, 8:25 PM
DOJ cannot ban anything.

Well, they tried pretty hard to ban OLLs, but that didn't work out very well for them.

tankerman
11-02-2010, 8:36 PM
Why would the DOJ care?

383green
11-02-2010, 8:43 PM
Why would the DOJ care?

Back during the early OLL days, key DOJ staffers were also anti-gun activists, and used the DOJ to try to further their goals. They cared very much. There have been some significant changes there since Brown became AG, so maybe they wouldn't care so much now.

Falstaff
11-02-2010, 9:07 PM
Why would the DOJ care?

Well, arent they the ones that administer and profit from the roster testing/fee collection? If all the sudden Glock starts shipping single shot gen IV's it'll seriously cramp their little revenue stream..

bwiese
11-02-2010, 9:08 PM
1.) Exploratory conversations have been had with some mfgrs.
It will take some time for them to digest & get traction, however,
and this is probably best done thru intermediaries - and we have
small vendors in CA arranging for (or doing, if they have 07 mfgr
FFL) single-shot conversions.

2.) DOJ itself can't/won't do much about it. Single-shot exemption
was passed by legislature in 2005 (IIRC). The structure of the law
combined with lack of constructive possession issues and proper
conduct by the FFLs and relevant mfgrs/importers

rbetts
11-02-2010, 9:14 PM
LWRCI Is a good example!. I have both the 6.8 and 5.56 PSD Pistol shipped direct to me from the factory with Bullet Button installed. I just wish RRA would get some cajones and start shipping full setups to CA again!

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-42922732626033_2126_451226

dantodd
11-02-2010, 9:25 PM
I just wish NeRFs would start moving forward again.

bwiese
11-02-2010, 11:40 PM
How will DOJ handle a major handgun manufacturer bypassing their silly roster by shipping semi autos converted to single shot long barrel versions en masse?

Or all revolvers with 3+" barrels & 7.5" overall length as single-actions :)

383green
11-02-2010, 11:41 PM
Or all revolvers with 3+" barrels & 7.5" overall length as single-actions :)

And a "cut here" line scored around the barrel? :p

Munk
11-03-2010, 2:31 AM
And a "cut here" line scored around the barrel? :p

lol... just a barrel extension made of tin welded to the end. 1 swift smack and it's clean. Or some other material that would be "integral" to the design of the barrel from the factory that can be broken off and cleaned with a file.

I think this would be cheaper than shipping the extra barrel.

Or a mail-in rebate setup "mail us your proof of purchase and we'll give you an extra trade-in credit with your old barrel, which will cover the cost of 2 10rd magazines and a new, shorter barrel"

Kharn
11-03-2010, 3:44 AM
Here's how Taurus does it (http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146)
http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/weirdtaurus1.jpg
All of their pistols are made in Brazil so they have to pass the importation points test, which severely punishes small, short, light, low caliber revolvers. They add some mass out the front as an extension of the barrel and cut and crown it once it hits America.

383green
11-03-2010, 9:04 AM
Here's how Taurus does it (http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146)

That. Is. AWESOME!! :notworthy:

Peter.Steele
11-03-2010, 10:12 AM
Here's how Taurus does it (http://pistol-training.com/archives/2146)
http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/weirdtaurus1.jpg
All of their pistols are made in Brazil so they have to pass the importation points test, which severely punishes small, short, light, low caliber revolvers. They add some mass out the front as an extension of the barrel and cut and crown it once it hits America.



No, no, no, no. It has nothing to do with importation.

That step there is for strapping on your M203!

IrishPirate
11-03-2010, 12:26 PM
If someone sold single shot guns with the full semi-auto conversion kit included in the package:

1)the price would go up quite a bit
2)the DOJ wouldn't be able to do anything because it would comply with all the laws and they are law enforcement, not law creation

I'm not sure it would be totally worth it for the manufacturer just to be able to sell their guns in CA. With the pending law suits against the roster so close to being decided, by the time they figured out how to make/market/sell the kits, they probably wouldn't need to anymore. Of course, if someone would have figured it out a few years ago....