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Eleutheros
10-30-2010, 4:38 PM
Tim Donnelly, candidate for the 59th District's Assembly seat, has identified himself as a Constitution-loyal Minuteman -- a patriot, not a politician. At his website, he is standing before the Constitution and the classic symbol of a rifle-bearing citizen who stood firmly for personal liberty against the tyranny of the ruling class.

http://www.donnellyforassembly.com/

There are likely others, but I cannot recall ever seeing a Republican candidate for California office identify himself so boldly as an advocate for our fundamental right to keep and bear arms.

Yet when I searched for "Tim Donnelly" on Calguns, I found scarcely any mention of him, and none since June.

Tim Donnelly would be a strong voice in the Assembly for restoring our Constitutionally-protected civil rights.

bwiese
10-30-2010, 4:46 PM
I'm wondering the wisdom of declaring onesself as such.

Given the nature of the distict it sounds like the way to lose.

BTW, Donnelly is not liked by the Libertarian candidate who would rather see the Dem go in (Woods) due to some stupidsh*t garbage about the Catholic Church Donnelly was yapping about.

That's a district represented by the fairly moderate R Anthony Adams who has chosen not to run again. And a big chunk of the district crosses into LA. There are some other perceived-right leaning candidates in the race that can sluice off enough votes that the Democrat opponent, an LA sheriff deputy named Woods may well be able to beat him if he goes too extreme.

marc4
10-30-2010, 5:12 PM
I have met and talked to Tim and he has my vote. He is pro-gun and is willing to further our cause.
Comments about catholic church has nothing to do with our gun rights as these is a gun rights forum. If this was a chat room for and about catholics, go ahead and crucify him.
We can actually meet and sit down with him and talk about our cause and is the type of guy who will step forward and help us out.

bwiese
10-30-2010, 5:41 PM
I agree, this is all about gun rights.

I was merely speaking about his electability given the facts of his district and some of his behaviors.

I'm not sure our support can pull him out of the hole.

rob
10-30-2010, 5:42 PM
Comments about catholic church has nothing to do with our gun rights as these is a gun rights forum.

I believe he was commenting about the electability of him and his ability to say stupid things. A pro-gun candidate is only useful to us if he can get elected.

cmaynes
10-30-2010, 11:21 PM
I have met and talked to Tim and he has my vote. He is pro-gun and is willing to further our cause.
Comments about catholic church has nothing to do with our gun rights as these is a gun rights forum. If this was a chat room for and about catholics, go ahead and crucify him.
We can actually meet and sit down with him and talk about our cause and is the type of guy who will step forward and help us out.

I am not a voter in the district, but will offer some sage wisdom- dont say things you dont plan on standing behind- especially things linked to Constitutional freedoms- like religion or RKBA.

Robert Gosney
10-31-2010, 10:04 AM
I have met and talked to Tim and he has my vote. He is pro-gun and is willing to further our cause.
Comments about catholic church has nothing to do with our gun rights as these is a gun rights forum. If this was a chat room for and about catholics, go ahead and crucify him.
We can actually meet and sit down with him and talk about our cause and is the type of guy who will step forward and help us out.

He'll only sit down and talk to people that agree with him. He has a very hard time with opposing points of view. What I have seen from the campaign trail is that he's all hype and no substance. Despite all his bluster about pounding the Democrats in the State Assembly into the ground (if he is elected) he was too frightened to attend 3 of the 5 candidates forums because the venue would have been too tough. The Latino Round Table, the League of Women Voters and the PTA. He is the only candidate not to attend all 5 Q & A forums. He didn't show up to a planned event last night either because he got wind that I would be speaking too.

I was at a Chelene Nightingale for Governor meet-up and he also was invited. He bragged that "no one has ever accused me of dodging a question" so I asked him who he supports for Governor. I have never seen someone get so tongue tied! I dogged him and he spent the next 10 minutes looking for ways to not answer the question. He even threatened to leave because we weren't buying what he was trying to pedal. Of course... if he were to stick to his supposed principles then he would be supporting Chelene Nightingale but he can't because he's taken money from the Republican Party.

Someone that claims to be a Patriot but won't support another Patriot is no Patriot at all. Someone that claims to support gun rights but will not support a pro-gun candidate does not really believe what they are saying. The CRPA is the same way. There are two candidates on the ballot for Governor that are pro-gun. The American Independent and the Libertarian. CRPA should at least support one of those. But you see, with the CRPA as well as Donnelly, the Republican Party comes first. Principles come second.

So if you are tired of the status-quo then please realize what the status-quo really is. It is the two party system. That's the status-quo. The reason is because two (people, political parties, organizations, whatever) can come to an agreement. Three cannot. The two major parties have come to an agreement on power sharing, they have agreed on how to carve up the electorate, this is yours - this is mine. Throw in a third party and they will always be in flux. They would actually need to compete with each other. Something that the two parties don't have to do.

As long as We The People are stuck on the two party system then the Republicans only have to be marginally better than the Democrats. And that's exactly where they have traversed. I encourage everyone here to please consider dumping the Republicans and look at Libertarians and American Independents. Please familiarize yourself with these parties and learn their platforms and decide which is best for you. Please stop supporting a party that has no interest in protecting our Liberties.

Best Regards,
Robert Gosney
American Independent Candidate for State Assembly District 59

Eleutheros
10-31-2010, 11:20 AM
He'll only sit down and talk to people that agree with him. He has a very hard time with opposing points of view. What I have seen from the campaign trail is that he's all hype and no substance. Despite all his bluster about pounding the Democrats in the State Assembly into the ground (if he is elected) he was too frightened to attend 3 of the 5 candidates forums because the venue would have been too tough. The Latino Round Table, the League of Women Voters and the PTA. He is the only candidate not to attend all 5 Q & A forums. He didn't show up to a planned event last night either because he got wind that I would be speaking too. . . .

Best Regards,
Robert Gosney
American Independent Candidate for State Assembly District 59

I will support candidates, Republican or independent, who are genuinely loyal to the Constitution.

I can also understand why Tim Donnelly would not waste his time and resources at events hosted by groups with a left-wing bias. They're not venues for a Constitutionalist to pick up votes.

I read your post here with interest, willing to consider your candidacy, then read the only other thread to which you have posted at Calguns: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=342505

In that thread, your demeanor was so uncivil and combative that, after warning you to no avail, the moderator closed the thread. I can now understand why Tim Donnelly would deem it unfruitful to engage you.

Robert Gosney
10-31-2010, 12:37 PM
I will support candidates, Republican or independent, who are genuinely loyal to the Constitution.

Alright, who do you support for Governor?


I can also understand why Tim Donnelly would not waste his time and resources at events hosted by groups with a left-wing bias. They're not venues for a Constitutionalist to pick up votes.

Really? I can't. He has the time and resources to waste talking to people that aren't even in the district. It's fear my friend. What drives this knee jerk reaction to try to protect Donnelly?


I read your post here with interest, willing to consider your candidacy, then read the only other thread to which you have posted at Calguns: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=342505

In that thread, your demeanor was so uncivil and combative that, after warning you to no avail, the moderator closed the thread. I can now understand why Tim Donnelly would deem it unfruitful to engage you.

If Donnelly can't engage me, then do you think that he will be able to engage the Democrats that he vowed to annihilate and pound into the ground? Talk about combative and uncivil.

bwiese
10-31-2010, 1:15 PM
Someone that claims to support gun rights but will not support a pro-gun candidate does not really believe what they are saying. The CRPA is the same way. There are two candidates on the ballot for Governor that are pro-gun. The American Independent and the Libertarian. CRPA should at least support one of those. But you see, with the CRPA as well as Donnelly, the Republican Party comes first. Principles come second.

Speaking as a Board member of the CRPA, we do have to deal with reality.

The likelihood of an AIP or L party winning a seat is very very improbable unless there are highly specific circumstances (both D & R candidates are self-destructing and not that favorable to guns). [Hell, Republicans have enough trouble winning elections in CA anyway.]

Recommending someone that simply can't win destroys any political muscle we have. Backing someone that CAN win (based on sane analyses) allows influence, and backing an incumbent that has helped us in the past reinforces our position.

In the 59th District race, the incumbent (Anthony Adams) is not running again.
The CRPA has recommended Donnelly because he answered the questionnaire favorably.
His opponent, Woods, an LA Deputy Sheriff, has not answered the questionnaire.
This district (59th) includes a chunk of LA, so anyone thinking any candidate outside R or D will have a remote chance is on crack.

wildhawker
10-31-2010, 3:36 PM
Robert, back again? I was curious if you'd make one last desperate attempt at convincing folks who know better that you are somehow relevant.

Robert Gosney
10-31-2010, 3:43 PM
Speaking as a Board member of the CRPA, we do have to deal with reality.

The likelihood of an AIP or L party winning a seat is very very improbable unless there are highly specific circumstances (both D & R candidates are self-destructing and not that favorable to guns). [Hell, Republicans have enough trouble winning elections in CA anyway.]

Recommending someone that simply can't win destroys any political muscle we have. Backing someone that CAN win (based on sane analyses) allows influence, and backing an incumbent that has helped us in the past reinforces our position.

In the 59th District race, the incumbent (Anthony Adams) is not running again.
The CRPA has recommended Donnelly because he answered the questionnaire favorably.
His opponent, Woods, an LA Deputy Sheriff, has not answered the questionnaire.
This district (59th) includes a chunk of LA, so anyone thinking any candidate outside R or D will have a remote chance is on crack.

I'm not completely sure why you think that endorsing someone that you believe can't win destroys your political muscle. Especially if there is no one to endorse from the major parties.

Have you thought about what you will do in the next election cycle with open primaries? Will you follow the Buckley rule and endorse the most pro-gun candidate that you think is electable? Or will you endorse the most pro-gun R or D? Or will you endorse the most pro-gun candidate?

Personally, I believe the Buckley rule to be an utter failure. Some well know conservative commentators are finally starting to figure that out as well. It is time to dump the Buckley rule and simply vote for the most pro-gun candidates period!

Robert Gosney
10-31-2010, 3:44 PM
Robert, back again? I was curious if you'd make one last desperate attempt at convincing folks who know better that you are somehow relevant.

Glad to know that you've been thinking about me!

Eleutheros
11-10-2010, 9:03 AM
Citizen-voters gave "unelectable" Minuteman Donnelly all the help he needed. He was victorious over the socialist party's candidate by 21 percent.

Donnelly must know how to win.

State Assembly Member District 59
Precincts 460 of 460 reporting

Candidate Votes Percent
Tim Donnelly 74,264 57.6
Darcel Woods 47,166 36.6
Tony Tyler 3,803 2.9
Robert Gosney 3,746 2.9

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/electionresults

bwiese
11-10-2010, 5:13 PM
Every once in awhile someone's lucky.

marc4
11-10-2010, 5:36 PM
Luck, sure it was luck. It was pure luck that Tim's opponents got any votes.
With that many votes/supporters on Tim's side, this was not luck on his side. This was a mandate.
Now if someone will come with with a "Sponsored Legislation" from Calguns, I would like to help propose it to him.
I would suggest the CCW issue, the disbanding of the roster list and I'm sure there are more issues.

bwiese
11-10-2010, 5:43 PM
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Now if someone will come with with a "Sponsored Legislation" from Calguns, I would like to help propose it to him. I would suggest the CCW issue, the disbanding of the roster list and I'm sure there are more issues.

Fe seats changed hands in CA state elections; balance is not that much different. Yep, it's great that Tim won.

But why would we want to sponsor something that won't make it out of committee (shall issue CCW, Roster, etc.) - when we can, will (and are) in process of fixing those in the courts?

There are much smaller incremental fixup bills that are both passable and can have great outcomes. I'm quite confident the NRA & CRPA legislative liaisons will be (or are) in touch with Tim and have good ideas what can pass and have the most effect in this political environment. It's always nice to have someone run with the ball.

kperry
11-10-2010, 11:19 PM
I'm totally on board with sending a Minuteman to Sacramento-





I'm just trying to figure out how we can get the Air Force to let us have one....

Theseus
11-11-2010, 5:40 AM
I don't know, do the flyboys in the Air Force like anything other than airmen?

Sorry. . . the opening was there. . . (ex-Army). All in good fun though.