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metalliman545
10-30-2010, 8:59 AM
i dont have many pictures, but i picked this beauty up back in may, right before i went on R&R i got it for only 300$ on gunbroker. it was so cheap because it was "sporterized" but the only sporterized thing i can see on it is the very front part of the stock, it looks like a finger/palm grove was cut into it. otherthan that, it fires,and its pretty accurate(at 50 feet atleast lol. indoor range) but shes a beauty, great rifling. ive only fired remington core lokt outta it, but i saved the brass, i want to reload some military rounds for it. i have 220RN for it. maybe load to around 1850-1900 any ways, heres the two pics i have it for now.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs371.snc4/45373_1586097894659_1302132827_31650855_1447374_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs184.ash2/44686_1588091264492_1302132827_31656241_1001269_n. jpg

Army GI
10-30-2010, 4:59 PM
Nice rifle you have there!

I too have an American Krag (1898). I think the reason yours was so cheap is the same reason mine was too. Judging by the sight, it looks like your rifle was at one time a full length rifle that had the stock cut down to carbine length.

I have a full length rifle as well that was cut down to a 22" barrel. It was intended to be used at schools and military academies.

I recently picked up a full length 30" replacement barrel from the CMP. It's brand new in the white so I gotta have it installed, headspaced, and maybe cold-blued. But I digress. Nice find, enjoy!

metalliman545
10-30-2010, 6:04 PM
hmmm after some quick reading i see that some krags where cut down and refitted with m1903 front sights. perhaps for ww1? i still love it :) lots of power and accurate

fal_762x51
10-30-2010, 8:39 PM
I think Bannerman cut some of them down and installed the 1903 sights.

gunboat
10-31-2010, 12:45 AM
As I recall the krags with carbine stocks and 03 front sights were done at benicia arsenal. Barrel was cut to carbine length. Carbine sights and handguards were not fitted. Sold through the NRA in the thirties --
At least that is the way mine is configured.
Bannerman, sedgely and others all sold a variety of mixmaster krags.
In the mid thirties your krag came right to your door for $2.50 and postage ready for your own special customization.

metalliman545
10-31-2010, 1:11 AM
and what are ways you can tell your rifle was done by the arsenals or companies?

gunboat
10-31-2010, 12:14 PM
Unlike later weapons, krags have no real arsenal rebuild marks. Although there were quite a few arsenal modifications some were field mods. M92, 94, 96 were often upgraded with later sights etc. M98's were also upgraded with 1901 sights.
There was a batch arsenal modified to a short rifle for the Philippine constabulary.
Many were commercially modified to short rifles for cadet corps such as VMI.
As to bannerman and other marketers, the sales took place over about 30 or more years so there is no particular pattern of mods or markings.
Another bit of trivia, photos of engineer battalions in WWI France show they were armed with krags. Bet that was a bit of a logistical nightmare.
my ha-penny

desertmedic
11-04-2010, 8:42 PM
My wife just was given a Springfield 1898 carbine from her dad. Wood on it is immaculate withthe cartouce dating of 1902. Serial number is 403893. Is this a true carbine or a cut down rifle?

gunboat
11-05-2010, 1:34 AM
M98 Krag carbines -- 5000 made -- ser# 118,xxx - 134,xxx . The distinguishing feature is the swivel ring on the left side.
There is a possibility yours is a m99 carbine. Known #'s are from 222,xxx - 363,xxx but carbine numbers are mixed with the rifle numbers. M99 carbines are marked m98 on the receiver.
Carbines will have a barrel about 22" with the front sight silver soldered in place.
M99 carbines do not have a swivel ring.
A 1903 front sight is sure sign of a cut-down, but it could be the benicia sale model.
There are other sight and stock variations that can help identify your weapon.
my ha-penny

PerkDizzle
11-05-2010, 2:26 AM
I've had a 30-40 Krag for years. It was a gift from a great uncle. I've never shot it but I'm going to try soon.
Thanks gunboat for posting all those numbers. I need to check the numbers on my rifle to see which model I have.

Rob