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hitman13
10-29-2010, 8:16 AM
UPDATE IN POST #22..... NO MORE RECOMMENDATIONS NEEDED, THANKS TO ALL WHO GAVE INPUT....


Originally posted this in the optics section, got some views, but no replies......

Hello, looking for input on some scopes.

Rifle it is going on is a Remington 700 .308 ADL varmint, 26" bbl, will prob upgrade the stock in a year or so, may cut down the bbl in the future to something not so long (I am aware of the pros and cons of this) also.

Anyways looking to get a scope that will be good enough for some decent ranged shooting and hunting. I prefer mildot reticles because I have used them in the past. Also, I prefer variable power scopes.

Not really looking at shooting competition or anything crazy like that, so I really do not see the need for a NF or USO or the likes...

Scopes I was looking at are:

Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 SF Mildot
Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 SF Mildot
Bushnell Elite 3200 series (not really narrowed down to a model, but have seen lots of recommendations on these).
Millet (don't know much about these)...

Anyways, trying to keep the scope sub $500, preferably sub $400. Was really leaning towards the Monarch because I know and trust the Nikon name, but hear that there are limited adjustments in these, which might not work out too good when looking at shooting a long distance.


What say ye?



Extra credit- suggest me some rings (decent price). Also, what is the advantage to a 1 piece scope base vs a 2 piece? Rifle came with Leupold 2 piece.........



Thanks CGN!

Connor P Price
10-29-2010, 9:14 AM
Really the most important thing is that you find a scope where the knobs and reticle match. Either MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA it just makes life so much easier when making adjustments. That should be your first priority as a lot of scopes in this price range don't fit that important criteria. I'd probably taking a good hard look at the bushnells.

As far as rings and base, you definitely want a one piece rail. Your much more likely to have your scope shifting around in recoil with a two piece. Since its a 308, if you want to shoot to any great distance you'll want a 20 MOA base in order to be able to get enough adjustment out of your scope. I'd take a look at an EGW 20MOA base and burris xtreme rings. 90 bucks or so for those two on midway and you've got yourself a great combo.

Better yet, come on over to www.CAPRC.com where almost everyone shoots a 700 or a custom built rifle based on one. Many of us regularly shoot competitions and your guaranteed to get some input from some very knowledgeable and helpful folks.

Sheldon
10-29-2010, 9:25 AM
I just ordered 2 of the EGW 20 MOA scope mounts and a set of the Burris extreme rings from Optics Planet.... they had a 10% off deal for orders over $100 plus free shipping. Rings are on back order so I can't use the mount yet. They ship for free orders over $30 and are charging $41.99 for the EGW mount and $57.99 for the 1" Burris scope rings....best deal I found considering the free shipping.

shadowofnight
10-29-2010, 9:40 AM
For your description of qualities , this scope fits the bill perfectly...it didnt get those perfect eight 5 star ratings for nothing.... http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Tactical-Elite-5-15x40mm-Riflescope/dp/B000UI24WY .

Extremely well made in Japan, tracks beautifully and holds zero even when I toss it on my 458 Socom. Also, being a second focal plane scope...the power ring happens to be marked where the mildots are accurate...and that is at it's max power of 15X :D

pontiacpratt
10-29-2010, 9:41 AM
I just picked up my Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44mm for ~$350 at optics planet. Havent Zero'd it yet. Tomorrow is the day:D

IMC87
10-29-2010, 10:10 AM
How can you tell if a scope is mil/mil or moa/moa??

UserM4
10-29-2010, 10:13 AM
Regarding internal elevation, you can always mount it on a 20MOA base or something. Nikon are great for the money. I look at scopes as an investment so I don't mind reaching deep into my pocket whenever I'm in the market for one.

Do look into the Bushnell Elite 4200 3-12x44.
Matching mil/mil, FFP, side focus, and illuminated reticle. I've seen them go for around $650.

Trapper
10-29-2010, 10:25 AM
Watch Sample List for deals on new condition scopes. I ordered a Nikon 4-16x50 Monarch from them last year, it arrived in perfect condition and was a great deal for the money.
http://www.samplelist.com/Riflescopes-C4.aspx

toby
10-29-2010, 10:39 AM
Originally posted this in the optics section, got some views, but no replies......

Hello, looking for input on some scope

Scopes I was looking at are:

Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 SF Mildot
Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 SF Mildot
Bushnell Elite 3200 series (not really narrowed down to a model, but have seen lots of recommendations on these).
Millet (don't know much about these)..

Thanks CGN!


1. Viper / Elite 4200
2. Monarch
3. skip the Elite 3200
4. Mullet=crapola

ADH
10-29-2010, 11:03 AM
In that price range you really owe it to yourself to check out the SWFA Super Sniper scopes. I know, I know, the name couldn't be more mall ninja but they are awesome. They started life as a Navy project and now SWFA is selling them directly. They are built like a tank and you get an ETCHED Mil-Dot reticle. Go read some reviews, you'll be hard pressed to find a negative one.

Here's their site;
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Rifle-Scopes-C187.aspx

I have one on my 10FCP and it has held zero with no adjustment for years.

Romanski
10-29-2010, 11:21 AM
In that price range you really owe it two yourself to check out the SWFA Super Sniper scopes. I know, I know, the name couldn't be more mall ninja but they are awesome. They started life as a Navy project and now SWFA is selling them directly. They are built like a tank and you get an ETCHED Mil-Dot reticle. Go read some reviews, you'll be hard pressed to find a negative one.

Here's their site;
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Rifle-Scopes-C187.aspx

I have one on my 10FCP and it has held zero with no adjustment for years.

Second that... works great on my Savage 10fp

IMC87
10-29-2010, 11:35 AM
How can you tell if a scope is MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL? All I see in descriptions are MOA adjustments or MIL adjustments

Legasat
10-29-2010, 11:39 AM
In that price range you really owe it two yourself to check out the SWFA Super Sniper scopes.

Here's their site;
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Rifle-Scopes-C187.aspx

I agree. Great Scope for the money!!

hitman13
10-29-2010, 12:38 PM
I know the SWFA is a great line, but I always assumed would want variable magnification, seemed that 10x would be too much at close ranges, not enough at some ranges.....

Thoughts? What's the range limitations on say 10x??

ADH
10-29-2010, 1:10 PM
I know the SWFA is a great line, but I always assumed would want variable magnification, seemed that 10x would be too much at close ranges, not enough at some ranges.....

Thoughts? What's the range limitations on say 10x??

They have a variable power 3-9x42
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P41044.aspx

as well as a 16x42
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-16x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P501.aspx

a 20x42
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-20x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P502.aspx

and even a 6x42
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-6x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P47326.aspx

Lots of fun configurations to choose from :)

hitman13
10-29-2010, 1:35 PM
Haha, ok then, same concerns for the 16x, mainly will it be WAY too much mag. close in? Im not really interested in a 20x for this rifle at this time, and want more than a 3-9x since I have one on a .223 and wish I had gone a little bigger with that one....

PS, thanks for the help guys.

rumblebee
10-29-2010, 1:50 PM
I can talk to the Vortex Viper.....great scope, tracks great and has very good glass. Zero resets are quick and easy. Lifetime waranty.

Millet (owned 2-3)...I'd step up to the Viper above....don't get me wrong, for the dough they are "ok"....but, you'll be looking to replace not too long after.

The other scope lots seem to say is a very good deal and good glass, Bushnell Elite 6500.

A one piece 20 MOA base (check EGW) and you're set....good luck :cool:

ZX-10R
10-29-2010, 2:53 PM
Millett...A friend has one on his and you really can't miss with his M700 SPS and Millett LRS1.

UserM4
10-29-2010, 3:07 PM
How can you tell if a scope is MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL? All I see in descriptions are MOA adjustments or MIL adjustments

MOA/MOA means the scope has an MOA reticle (crosshairs with hashmarks measured in MOA intervals) with MOA turrets.
MIL/MIL means the scope has a MIL reticle (crosshairs with hashmarks measured in MIL intervals) with MIL turrets.

A lot of scopes are MIL reticle (ie. Mil-Dot) with turrets that adjust in MOA clicks. Sorta requires some math to convert what you see in the scope to what you need to adjust on your turrets.

Having matching reticle and turrets just simplifies things quite a bit. If you see a poof of dirt 1.2 MIL to the left, turn your windage 1.2 MIL to the right.

killshot44
10-29-2010, 4:13 PM
Another thing about the SWFA SS line...150moa internal elevation. No 20moa base needed.
I'd get the 10x over their (more expensive) 3x9. That's just me, I've got the 20x....('cause they don't make a 30x!)

ironhiide
10-29-2010, 4:51 PM
I didnt see it listed, but the Bushnell 3200 Elite 5-15x40 w/ target Knobs and mil-dot reticle is just shy of $400 and very nice.

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx

hitman13
11-14-2010, 9:36 PM
Ok, so I ended up getting a SWFA Super Sniper, SWFA Rings (nicer than I thought they would be), EGW 20MOA base, abd then a mil-dot master.

Thanks everyone, I joined up over on CAPRC even though I live in AZ as well.....

killshot44
11-14-2010, 9:58 PM
Good combination...

Bhobbs
11-14-2010, 11:54 PM
I just put together a 700 using TPS rings and 20 MOA base with the Bushnell Elite 3200 Tactical. I don't have a range report yet but hope to soon.

Deadon
11-15-2010, 10:40 AM
For your description of qualities , this scope fits the bill perfectly...it didnt get those perfect eight 5 star ratings for nothing.... http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Tactical-Elite-5-15x40mm-Riflescope/dp/B000UI24WY .

Extremely well made in Japan, tracks beautifully and holds zero even when I toss it on my 458 Socom. Also, being a second focal plane scope...the power ring happens to be marked where the mildots are accurate...and that is at it's max power of 15X :D
I have that scop in a higher power. Its a nice piece!

Juice5610
11-15-2010, 1:21 PM
Ok, so I ended up getting a SWFA Super Sniper, SWFA Rings (nicer than I thought they would be), EGW 20MOA base, abd then a mil-dot master.

Thanks everyone, I joined up over on CAPRC even though I live in AZ as well.....


Check out azprc.net its Arizona's version of CAPRC. Brad, Tim and Gina are all great people! They'll get you squared away. Check the tactical competitions section on snipershide.com in order to rsvp for their matches. Also dont let the word match or competition scare you. Just make it known that you are a newbie and everyone will go out of their way in order to help you out and teach you a thing or two. Your not going to win for a while so just Have fun and learn.

ripcurlksm
11-15-2010, 1:24 PM
Ive had the Millett TRS2 for $300 and its held its zero and has been excellent on my M1A

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/m1a1911/JAE2010.jpg?t=1289856221

5 shots at 100 yards
http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab4/m1a1911/may2010-target1.jpg?t=1289856224

hitman13
11-15-2010, 1:56 PM
Thanks for the heads up on azprc, I'll mosey on over soon!

thegrayham
11-15-2010, 2:08 PM
Which model did you end up with?

keson
11-15-2010, 2:25 PM
Great choice! I just bought a Remington 700 Police recently. Swapped on a Nightforce 3.5-15x50 and now my AICS 2.0 is on the way :) can't wait!

hitman13
11-15-2010, 2:33 PM
Which model did you end up with?
16x20:chris: