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its mcgavin son
10-27-2010, 1:40 PM
In terms of national statistics, besides information found in their Supplmentary Homicide Reports program?

Self-defense killings meaning all types, not just civilian justified homicide(s)

Librarian
10-27-2010, 2:07 PM
Not usually. They accumulate stats as reported by the agencies; sometimes all they get is the original charge - later court proceedings sort out whether the charge sticks.

oni.dori
10-27-2010, 3:15 PM
I have seen emails and such from the NRA referring to crime stats that the FBI released at some point during the year, especially those relating to gun crimes (or at least, that is what the NRA focuses upon).

its mcgavin son
10-27-2010, 9:47 PM
I have seen emails and such from the NRA referring to crime stats that the FBI released at some point during the year, especially those relating to gun crimes (or at least, that is what the NRA focuses upon).

Thanks for your response bro but "crime stats" and "gun crimes" are relatively broad topics. I'm looking for specific information, and I'm pretty sure the NRA was just relaying Uniform Crime Reports data

joeyriv
10-27-2010, 9:59 PM
If they did, it would most likely be in the UCR/NIBRS reports, and like Librarian said, its just data reported by agencies. Would be interesting to look at and see if they categorize justifiable homicides. Anyone know how to view it???

fiddletown
10-27-2010, 10:58 PM
See:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/justify.cfm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-14-justifiable_N.htm

its mcgavin son
10-28-2010, 6:58 AM
Thank you also for your response however CJHs reports (FBI's Civilian Justifiable Homicides) are cases which have been changed to exactly that, ie, LEO originially documenting an incident as a "self-defense killing" before the DA (for example) dismisses as CJH. Self-defense killings in raw data form are what I'm looking for

oddjob
10-28-2010, 8:34 AM
Gary Kleck and Don Kates have written books on gun control/self defense studies. Google them & you will find info that may guide you in that direction.

its mcgavin son
10-28-2010, 12:47 PM
I'm actually reading Kleck's "Crime control through the use of private force" article.

In fact, I have a ton of Kleck peer-reviewed journals and he also addresses the inconsistencies with federal data regarding the absense of raw "self-defense killings". Also, a majority of his work is quite dated

Carnivore
10-28-2010, 9:38 PM
Centers for disease control and prevention keep very detailed stats on all shootings but haven't seen but a few published. They break them down very granularly to race, age, sex, area etc. Last one I saw though was 2006.

Librarian
10-28-2010, 10:15 PM
Centers for disease control and prevention keep very detailed stats on all shootings but haven't seen but a few published. They break them down very granularly to race, age, sex, area etc. Last one I saw though was 2006.
Quick access to that is WISQARS (http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/index.html), but they don't separate LEO from non-LEO, I believe.

They are a couple of years back, so they have most of the correct legal results.

Carnivore
10-28-2010, 10:25 PM
Quick access to that is WISQARS (http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/index.html), but they don't separate LEO from non-LEO, I believe.

They are a couple of years back, so they have most of the correct legal results.

Yes all justified homicides are lumped in together regaurdless of who did the shooting. From what I gather that is what the OP was looking for.