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Afterburnt
10-26-2010, 7:51 PM
What do you folks think of this:

"The tips on this ammunition are not painted Green, as you can see in the picture with the magnet, this is True M855 ammunition. As you know, the only NATO ammunition that should have the NATO cross is M855 and that is what this ammo has instead of the painted green tip. See our picture showing the NATO cross on the M855. It is not on the M193 as M193 is not NATO approved ammo."

True?

r6raff
10-26-2010, 8:27 PM
Cartridge, Caliber 5.56 mm, Ball, M855 (United States): 5.56x45mm 62-grain FN SS109 ball cartridge, green tip w/steel penetrator and a lead core.


Pulled from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56x45mm_NATO

As far as I am aware, the green tip is a general cosmetic means of distinguishing. I have seen m855 without the green tip but it was prt prvi I think or something. Green tip or no, the steel penetrator is what counts

Pryde
10-26-2010, 8:32 PM
True.
When NATO adopted 5.56x45 in the late 80's it was the 62gr M855 round. Prior to adoption, most NATO countries used standardized 7.62x51 usually in a FAL or G3, while the US (pretty much the only country with a 5.56 primary rifle) used 55gr M193 in our older generation M16A1s.

After NATO standardization we also switched to the M855 and the M16A2. M193 has never been in the NATO supply chain.

Also, IIRC only US-made M855 is painted green on the tip, the primary reason being that the US-mil for a while had both M193 and M855 in the supply chain. The green tip distinguished the two types of ammo because firing M855 out of an M16A1 is a no-go accuracy-wise. I had a couple thousand rounds of British Radway Green M855 ammo 6 years ago and none of it was green-tipped.

jchen76@gmail.com
10-26-2010, 8:33 PM
Be careful especially with military surplus. Back in day, Israel sent some 5.56 surplus, some of it was battlefield finds. Some of the rounds were actually tracers mixed in, with the red tip markings worn off. Caught quite a few shooters off guard that nearly started forest fires.

r6raff
10-26-2010, 8:41 PM
The NATO standard, , M855 round is intended for use against light matériel targets and personnel, but not vehicles. Identified by a green tip, the 62 grain projectile is constructed of a lead alloy core topped by a steel penetrator, the whole contained within a gilding (copper alloy) metal jacket. The primer and case are waterproof. (See representative cartridge drawing.) Despite the round's penetration abilities, BATF has specifically exempted it from the AP ban.

Pulled from http://www.thegunzone.com/556faq.html

So, the U.S. is the only one who paints 855 green? i didnt know that, I knew some other manufactures dont, but I always thought the standard was green marking, considering there are multiple 5.56 cartridges in use by nato. Learn something new everyday :thumbsup:

gemini1
10-26-2010, 9:01 PM
No I dont think its only the US who paints 855 green. Countries that has also adopted the M16 as their primary battle rifle likewise paints the green. The Philippines bought some SAWs from South Korea along with ammos for it, its also the M855 and its painted green.