beretta SUCKS

[big jon]

well 21/2 months later and i still have a gun that cant shoot.2ed gun, 1st one was replaced,it shot 10 low 4+ to the left, and the new one wasnt much better. beretta said they wouldnt fix it because it shot with in the spects? after going over the head of one of the service people i had one of the gunsmith agree to see it if i sent it to him well this is the target that they sent back with the gun,the POA is 6 oclock?????????all they did was file the frount sight dosnt shoot low any more but they did nothing to correct the stupid thing it still shoot 4in to the left. and check out the rebluing they did on the frount sight,,boy iam so dissapointed with beretta
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[glen avon]

you need to tap the front sight over. lotsa people had to do that with their vaqueros.

[maxicon]

The old-timers on smith-wessonforum talk about how the S&W support techs would adjust windage problems on fixed-sight guns that way.

The word is they'd clamp the barrel in a vise and give it a whack with a mallet. The good ones were one-whack wonders.

max

[CALI-gula]

It looks like it shoots/groups well - just not in the right place you want it. I agree with others; tap the sight into place - don't over due it. Lightly until enough gets it right. They should have fixed it right at the factory; but as for myself, I don't think I would have sent it back to them for sight issues; I have never sent a gun back to a factory for issues, but would only send back a gun if it is a serious malfunction of its mechanical operation, or a crack or flaw in the build, or if they had a specific recall.

I am not a fan of Beretta semi-auto handuns, but I have looked at some there there recent Uberti acquired guns. I like their shotguns and have always heard of them to be a good company. I am surprised they didn't treat you better on this.

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[-hanko]

You have an antique pistol, just newly manufactured. As posted above, you (or preferably a smith experienced with guns like yours) can either move/bend the front sight or bend the barrel to fix the windage issue. The front sight needs a bit more filing. It's an inexpensive sixgun, I've seen both better & worse out of the box. Google Hamilton Bowen & get a quote to get the gun to shoot where you want it.

-hanko

[daskraut]

Don't tap it too hard or it will look like shamu's top fin!:D

[JAFGO]

Might as well do the easiest things first and molest the gun as little as possible. Different ammo usually has different POI. Try a few different brands and bullet weights. I'll bet you find one that shoots pretty close to POA. I've shot loads @ 25 yards with differences of POI of as much as 4 or 5 inches.

[Turbinator]

or bend the barrel to fix the windage issue.

Are you sure you want him to bend the barrel?? :eek:

Turby

[Pulsar]

Probably bending the barrel straight... you don't want to know how to correct a bent rifle barrel... all you need is the corner of a work bench.

[Turbinator]

Probably bending the barrel straight... you don't want to know how to correct a bent rifle barrel... all you need is the corner of a work bench.

I don't know, man - I'm sure you could do this, but I have no clue, and I'm sure that a majority of the readers here also don't know how to do this. I'd leave barrel bending to the experts who can warranty and guarantee their work; or just get a replacement barrel and don't mess with a bent one.

Turby

[-hanko]

I don't know, man - I'm sure you could do this, but I have no clue, and I'm sure that a majority of the readers here also don't know how to do this. I'd leave barrel bending to the experts who can warranty and guarantee their work; or just get a replacement barrel and don't mess with a bent one.

Turby
Which is why I mentioned the name of Hamilton Bowen. If the user is not able to file the front sight to raise the impact point, he's not about (I'd guess) to attempt to fix the windage issue. Take the gun to someone who IS knowledgable as to six guns & see what happens. Choice 2 is to continue to post targets, which won't change until windage is corrected;)

-hanko

[bwiese]

This guy apparently doesn't wanna confront his problem or try other ammo. I dunno how he can expect a factory gun to be tuned to his handloads. I sometimes notice big differences btwn flat point, wadcutter, round nose/hollowpoints at the target in my guns, dunno why he expects differently.

He apparently doesn't know that different ammo shoots to different points. I'd bet if he changes loads to one of several common factory loads one of these'd be near spot-on. He could then try to duplicate this load for his handloads.

Talking to a Beretta customer-service phone rep about this is about as useful as talking to a DOJ phone clerk ('analyst') about intricacies of CA gun laws. All she can do is say 'send it in'; when they check the gun with their reference ammo, it will shoot straight and they will wonder what he's complaining about.

His purported elevation 'problem' can be solved by carefully filing down the front sight to elevate the impact.

His windage is not that far off that thinning (grinding/polishing) down one side (right side) of it and welding/brazing a thin layer of metal to the opposite side (the left side) will maintain front sight thickness, and have the effect of 'moving' the front sight blade to the left. A good smith can do this, reblue and make it look good. (Bowen, Alpha Precision, Clark Custom Guns, etc.)

If you want an adjustable sight, get a Ruger Blackhawk. Or get a 'smith conversion on your Vaquero or other SAA-style gun.

[big jon]

boy iam not sure iam telling the story right, the gun dosnt shoot good, beretta agrees with me they too shot it and found it to be way off they tryed to repair it by filling the frount sight,that only corrected the up and down but it still shoots 4in to the left? what they needed to do was turn the berral to correct the windage. but thats too much for beretta to do i guess? i have shot everything thru 451,452,454, and jacked from 185 to 250gr nothing helped, all my years of competion from shooting pins speed plates and bianchi cup, shooting with comp revs, comp 45, 38sup,9mm,i cant rember a time when a load changed windage? but i was only shooting 500 to 1000 rounds a day?? as for the stampede it has no place on my shooting bench if it cant go hole for hole? beretta is not returning my phone calls so i found a cowboy gunsmith up by my house who will be turinig the berral and tunning the rest of the gun, when i get it back ill post a pic of the one hole group i hope to get with it,,,BIG

[glen avon]

send beretta the receipt. make them eat shipping too.

[-hanko]

:D , all my years of competion from shooting pins speed plates and bianchi cup, shooting with comp revs, comp 45, 38sup,9mm,i cant rember a time when a load changed windage? but i was only shooting 500 to 1000 rounds a day?? ............, when i get it back ill post a pic of the one hole group i hope to get with it,,,BIG
A six gun is not a comp'd revolver nor semi; it's different.

Shoot 1k a day out of the Beretta & both you & the gun will shoot better; I'd still suggest sending the gun to someone who knows what to do to move your bullets a little to the right.

1-hole groups will be possible, but i'd get very close to the target:D

-hanko