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NapaPlinker
10-21-2010, 6:26 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/oct/21/barbara-boxer/barbara-boxer-says-carly-fiorina-against-banning-a/

Saigon1965
10-21-2010, 6:35 PM
Text from article -

A new ad from California Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer takes a broad-brush approach in painting Republican opponent Carly Fiorina as extreme.

"Carly Fiorina, she's against banning assault weapons, and that's reckless and dangerous. She's for risky new oil drilling that could threaten our jobs. Fiorina's plan would mean slashing Social Security and Medicare, which would devastate seniors. And she'd make abortion a crime. No wonder Fiorina is endorsed by Sarah Palin. Carly Fiorina, just too extreme for California."

The Fiorina campaign blasted the ad. "We demand that she immediately remove this ad from the airwaves and apologize to Carly, and California voters, for not only this deliberate and blatant distortion of reality, but also for her refusal to have an honest and serious debate about the issues during this crucial time for our nation," said campaign manager Marty Wilson in a written statement.

The Boxer campaign said they're standing by the ad. Both campaigns invited us to fact-check it.

Here, we wanted to look at whether Fiorina is against banning assault weapons. Generally speaking, Fiorina supports gun rights; she says on her web site that she is "a strong proponent of protecting Americans' Second Amendment rights." She's also received the endorsement of the National Rifle Association. She received an ''AQ'' rating from the group, which the NRA Political Victory Fund says means she is "a pro-gun candidate whose rating is based solely on the candidate's responses to the NRA-PVF Candidate Questionnaire and who does not have a voting record on Second Amendment issues." (Fiorina was previously the chief executive officer for Hewlett-Packard Co.; this is the first time she has sought elective office.)

The Boxer campaign pointed out that Fiorina has said she opposed a measure passed under the Clinton administration that banned assault weapons for 10 years. The ban started in 1994 and expired in 2004. It has not been renewed.

The Fiorina campaign acknowledges that she opposed the 1994 ban. "Fiorina agrees with opponents of the 1994 semi-automatic gun ban that various provisions of the bill outlawing guns with military appearance characteristics such as conspicuous grip, bayonet mount and a folding or telescoping stock do not make those guns any more dangerous," said campaign press secretary Andrea Saul in a statement.

But the campaign said Fiorina is not taking a stand on any future bans until she sees specific legislation.

We searched to see if there was any current legislation under consideration and couldn't find any. Though President Barack Obama campaigned on an assault weapons ban, it doesn't appear to be a legislative priority for his administration.

Still, it seems fair to think that Fiorina would oppose a ban that was the same as the 1994 ban. The NRA said it endorses her because she "opposes re-enacting the Clinton gun and magazine ban."

In ruling on the statement "Carly Fiorina, she's against banning assault weapons," we find it compelling that she opposed the 1994 ban and that the NRA said she told them she would oppose re-enacting it. Is it possible some sort of new compromise bill might win Fiorina's support? It's possible, but there's little to indicate that's likely. Based on her previous opposition and the NRA endorsement, we rate Boxer's statement Mostly True.

Purple K
10-21-2010, 6:47 PM
Fiorina gets my vote!

Jonl
10-21-2010, 7:14 PM
Me too. Too bad she isn't running for Governor.

bwiese
10-21-2010, 7:15 PM
I want the AK that Babs Boxer uses in her TV ad - looks *very* nice.

It'd be real interesting to find out where she got the gun - did she use stock material, or did Baca or other LEO let her staff photograph items from the evidence locker?

Saigon1965
10-21-2010, 7:17 PM
It's a WASR .22 - LOL -

I want the AK that Babs Boxer uses in her TV ad - looks *very* nice.

It'd be real interesting to find out where she got the gun - did she use stock material, or did Baca or other LEO let her staff photograph items from the evidence locker?

Dump1567
10-21-2010, 7:50 PM
"Carly Fiorina, she's against banning assault weapons, and that's reckless and dangerous. She's for risky new oil drilling that could threaten our jobs. Fiorina's plan would mean slashing Social Security and Medicare, which would devastate seniors. And she'd make abortion a crime. No wonder Fiorina is endorsed by Sarah Palin. Carly Fiorina, just too extreme for California."


I just saw this ad.

It made me glad I voted for her.

nicki
10-21-2010, 7:50 PM
Since semi autos are so dangerous and fire at 1200 rpm, I would be willing to convert my current semis to select fire.

This way my rate of fire would be 600 to 750rpm on full auto.

Of course I would only use the semi function for sporting purposes only.

For defense purposes, I would leave the gun on FULL AUTO since it is less deadly than Semi auto per the VPC, a well respected gun safety organization.

See, we can get along.

I'm for sensible gun policies, but against Victim Disarmenant because VD kills.
Let's put 10 year sunsets on all gun laws, that way if Gura misses a few, the sunset will get them.

Nicki

yellowfin
10-21-2010, 7:59 PM
Demanding apology from Boxer for distorting reality... uhm... ok... that's virtually everything she's ever said.

Ksmash01
10-21-2010, 8:06 PM
That commercial made me wanna throw up.

I knew that I wasn't voting for Boxer....that ad just re-affirmed my belief that she is the devil.

Not that I was voting for Fiorina....she's just as demonic.

Is it me, or does this election just plain stink????

andrewj
10-21-2010, 8:11 PM
I want the AK that Babs Boxer uses in her TV ad - looks *very* nice.

Babs?! Call her "Senator"! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrpFSfpXD50) She worked so hard to get that title :43:

advocatusdiaboli
10-21-2010, 8:35 PM
The only thing I like about job-offshoring while stuffing her own pockets Fiorina is she ins't Boxer. That's enough to get my vote, but I have to hold my nose to pull the lever. The woman is a egotistical power-tipping selfish biatch--but she's still better than Boxer--that's how bad Boxer is.

1911 Fan
10-21-2010, 8:37 PM
Not my first choice for boxer's replacement in the primary. Yes I will vote for Carly.

kcbrown
10-21-2010, 8:40 PM
I want the AK that Babs Boxer uses in her TV ad - looks *very* nice.

It'd be real interesting to find out where she got the gun - did she use stock material, or did Baca or other LEO let her staff photograph items from the evidence locker?

She probably owns it. :D

After all, people like her have no integrity whatsoever, and believe themselves to be above the little people...

Kynoch
10-21-2010, 8:45 PM
Has the GOP started a huge push yet for Carly? Boxer is vulnerable and it will be interesting to see how the GOP gets behind Carly. The Democratic Guns of Navarone are being lit-off for Boxer right now...

Kynoch
10-21-2010, 8:47 PM
Not my first choice for boxer's replacement in the primary. Yes I will vote for Carly.

Same here. Carly is no prize but she is FAR better than Boxer. If Boxer went down, that would really signal a huge shift here in California. A shift that would be so symbolic I really don't see how the DNC could allow Boxer to lose. The assets they are going to put at her disposal in the next several days is going to be awesome...

Kynoch
10-21-2010, 8:49 PM
The only thing I like about job-offshoring while stuffing her own pockets Fiorina is she ins't Boxer. That's enough to get my vote, but I have to hold my nose to pull the lever. The woman is a egotistical power-tipping selfish biatch--but she's still better than Boxer--that's how bad Boxer is.

Bingo...

bulgron
10-21-2010, 8:49 PM
Has the GOP started a huge push yet for Carly? Boxer is vulnerable and it will be interesting to see how the GOP gets behind Carly. The Democratic Guns of Navarone are being lit-off for Boxer right now...

The GOP in California is lame and ineffective. I fully expect them to fumble badly on this race, just like they've fumbled on every other important race for the last 15 years.

SideWinder11
10-21-2010, 8:54 PM
She's got my vote!

Jerry Brown DOES NOT!!!!!